Australian Politics Forum - Sydney siege: Martin Place

Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85378 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #510 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:38am I don't think this guy was affiliated - he simply wished to stir up both sides....
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Reply #511 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:41am

|dev|null wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 10:25am:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 6:55am:

red baron wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 6:40am:

Paradise Lost - Australia will never be the same.

Already 'Sheik' Man Haron Monis is being labelled as a lone rogue. This may be the case however ISIS has called for an International Jihadist against Western Countries in particular. This is now living evidence that this is happening.

Australia must reflect heavily on this tragedy and decide just how we are going to approach the Muslim problem and it is a hugely growing problem.

My heart goes out to the relatives to all who were involved in this siege and to the families of those who were brutally murdered.

The cops who went in, were incredibly brave, straight into the line of fire, God bless them all.

I'll go with the cops being incredibly stupid and dumb. a single head shot was possible twelve hours earlier. the ROE need to change such that if you take hostages and you are armed that you forfeit your right to live and lethal force will be used at the FIRST opportunity. if they had done that there would be no innocent deaths. and all this has doen is shown other muslim nutters that police wont shoot first. next time, SHOOT FIRST.

perhaps the FBI needs to send its HRT quad down here to teach our police commanders that having trained snipers is no use if you don't actually use them.

pitiful police response.

Great, suicide by police. Turning Terrorists into instant martyrs.

But hostages alive!

What happens if the rig themselves with a suicide vest with a "deadman's switch"? You shoot them, the pressure is released and BOOM! Up they and everybody else goes.

Given that it has never happened here, you need some reliable evidence that it exists. Otherwise you hold off, hold off... and hostages get killed.

You're assuming they could see into the shop and that the gunman was so visible that they could get a clear shot. How do you know that was possible? Were you there? Of course bloody not. What I hate is people who were watching vicariously through their television telling people who were there what decision they should have made in hindsight, when they have no pressure and lives don't depend on their decisions. Idiot. Grin

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #512 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:42am

Who was protecting Man Haron Monis from the justice system. Why was he out on the streets with multiple charges against him?

How could this have happened without high collusion and perversion of justice system.

The judges that released him onto the streets need to justify their conduct.

1. How did he get a visa to Australia?
2. Who paid his legal fees in recent cases against him?
3. Why was he out on bail for very serious charges?
4. How did he get a gun and from whom?

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Please don't thank me. Effusive fawning and obeisance of disciples, mendicants, and foot-kissers embarrass me.

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85378 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #513 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:22pm page kicker with class
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #514 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:34pm bb - ISIS have declared Jihad against Western Countries. It doesn't make a flying fig's difference whether we are in Iraq or not. ISIS wants all us infidels dead and their flag top fly over the planet. Personally it will fly over my dead body.
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #515 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:35pm "
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #516 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:35pm !
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Reply #517 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:36pm

|dev|null wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Rider wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:12am:

I guess you'd prefer catholic priest.....but he wasnt was he?? He was a raghead muslim criminal who has caused mayhem in our country and caused the death of two innocent people we dont like him.

What that because he was a Muslim or despite him being a Muslim? Where in Islam is it said it's OK to "cause mayhem...and death..."? Grin

It's in the koran.
It's what moh did.
it's what isis and many other islamic groups do.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #518 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:37pm !!
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #519 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:37pm 5
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #520 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:43pm 6...this is getting difficult
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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #521 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:47pm red baron wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:34pm: bb - ISIS have declared Jihad against Western Countries. It doesn't make a flying fig's difference whether we are in Iraq or not. ISIS wants all us infidels dead and their flag top fly over the planet. Personally it will fly over my dead body. Hopefully.
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Reply #522 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:48pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

|dev|null wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Rider wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:12am:

I guess you'd prefer catholic priest.....but he wasnt was he?? He was a raghead muslim criminal who has caused mayhem in our country and caused the death of two innocent people we dont like him.

What that because he was a Muslim or despite him being a Muslim? Where in Islam is it said it's OK to "cause mayhem...and death..."? Grin

It's in the koran.
It's what moh did.
it's what isis and many other islamic groups do.

Doesn't mean it's part of mainstream Islam Sprint. Your mental illness is clouding your understanding. Grin

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139581 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #523 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:49pm red baron wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:34pm: bb - ISIS have declared Jihad against Western Countries. It doesn't make a flying fig's difference whether we are in Iraq or not. ISIS wants all us infidels dead and their flag top fly over the planet. Personally it will fly over my dead body. Yes.
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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #524 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 1:56pm bump
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Question: Should the 'false-flag' proponents be banned?
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