Australian Politics Forum - Sydney siege: Martin Place

greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139530 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #600 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:33pm Gnads wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:32pm: Répétition - he's not just a criminal. Indeed. He was also a violent nutter.
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #601 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:35pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

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Why does Islam lend itself to 7 murders an hour, but not other religions? The data gathered by the BBC found that 5,042 people were killed in 664 jihadist attacks across 14 countries - a daily average of 168 deaths, or seven every hour.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-30080914

What would the numbers be like if it wasn't the religion of peace??

many blessings

how many civilians has the US killed ... without any allies ..just the US

lets begin at hiroshima and nagasaki ...

then count from there

your ignorance is forgiven self confessed masonic

so be at peace

namaste

can you count ?

you evade the question

this is a steriotypical masonic response

you have been exposed

and forgiven

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jackmountain Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 350 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #602 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:32pm: jackmountain wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:30pm: Why should he, you make excuses for your particularly stupid posts. Ah, another criminal apologist. The list is growing. Ah another RETARD the Tumor is growing
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #603 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:38pm

Lobo wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:24pm:

Sydney siege ends: gunman inspired by IS but driven by personal crises

Politically motivated Islamist terrorist or a disturbed individual consumed by personal crises looking to end his life in a blaze of publicity?

Sydney siege gunman Man Haron Monis was a combination of both.

But his late conversion to the brutal interpretation of Sunni Islam popularised by Islamic State and the manner of his attack suggests to terrorism analysts that he had few, if any, deep connections to IS, also known as ISIL.

"This is a person in personal crisis, at the end of his tether. He was looking for attention and a way out," said Adam Dolnik from the University of Wollongong, a terrorism analyst who has advised more than 50 governments on counter-terrorism and hostage negotiations.

"It wasn't unlike most of the hostage situations that police deal with that don't involve politically-motivated violence."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-ends-gunman-inspired-by-is-but-driven-by-...

many blessings

the media is attempting to spin it that way

yet many are watching now ... footy season is over

and as such all eyes on point now ...

this fiasco and false flag is unravelling very quickly

some religious zealots are in discomfort ..

so be it

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #604 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 6:10pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 6:02pm:

red baron wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 4:49pm:

Aren't you lucky you live here Gregg and not in the Middle East. If those nasty little ISIS people got hold of you, you wouldn't be long for this world. Gay pride doesn't rate too high with Islam.

Settle down Red!

No need for that shiiiit!

Red likes to call people gay when he's backed into a corner.

For some reason, he thinks it's an insult.

(Just between you and me, I think it might be a fishing exercise)

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 9:27pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 9:21pm:

Well, gweggowy, if you don’t think it is true then you think what you want.

I'd think it were true if you could provide the proof.

"It’s like gravity or time - you just know it" doesn't really cut it with me, I'm sorry.

If that were the case, I could say "Soren, Data and Longy are gay lovers (not that there's anything wrong with that) who often invite underage boys into their basement on Sunday nights" and never be challenged on it, just by saying "It’s like gravity or time - you just know it.".

Not that I would say such a thing, of course.

Let me know if you come up with something, though. I'll be here.

Oh the ironing.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #605 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:46pm

jackmountain wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

jackmountain wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:30pm:

Why should he, you make excuses for your particularly stupid posts.

Ah, another criminal apologist.

The list is growing.

Ah another RETARD the Tumor is growing

Oh dear.

Is it a brain tumor that ails you?

There's sure to be plenty of room for it to grow, so you can probably put off that trip to the doctor for a few months.

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #606 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:20pm

Soren wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:

Why does Islam lend itself to 7 murders an hour, but not other religions? The data gathered by the BBC found that 5,042 people were killed in 664 jihadist attacks across 14 countries - a daily average of 168 deaths, or seven every hour.

Sounds fairly mild compared to the million Iraqis killed by Bush and Howard.

Perhaps we can spare a thought for the 50 million Christians killed by other Christians during WWI or the 30 million Christians killed by other Christians in WWII.

Christians have killed at least 100 million in the past century.

Which religion is the "death cult"?

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There's a 'budget emergency', so we will give $9 billion to the Reserve Bank, spend $12 billion on some dubious jets, $2 billion to bomb Iraq, etc.

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jackmountain Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 350 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #607 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:32pm: jackmountain wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:30pm: Why should he, you make excuses for your particularly stupid posts. Ah, another criminal apologist. The list is growing. So is your nose. #Zit
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #608 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 8:48pm

Soren wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 5:59pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 5:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 4:30pm:

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

all they need is one tiny excuse...

Bingo. Any excuse.

This lunatic would have hurt other people, no matter what religion he was.

That is presumptive and not even likely to be true. Since his motivations were entirely religious (which you will not doubt dispute) then his religion can certainly take some of the blame.

Religion was the excuse he used yesterday.

He has an extensive list of criminal charges, and he was a nutter.

If Islam didn't exist, he would have used something else as an excuse to commit his crime yesterday.

Stop making excuses for criminals.

Why does Islam lend itself to 7 murders an hour, but not other religions? The data gathered by the BBC found that 5,042 people were killed in 664 jihadist attacks across 14 countries - a daily average of 168 deaths, or seven every hour.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-30080914

What would the numbers be like if it wasn't the religion of peace??

because it is a belief of extremism.

the muzzies here display that well

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #609 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:39pm

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 4:18pm:

cods wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 4:13pm:

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:34am:

So has Abbott made us safer from terrorism by bombing Iraq or less safe?

gosh when did Abbott declare WAR on IRAQ...??

last I read from there they were begging us to go back and were angry the West left when they did..

maybe we are not talking about the SAME IRAQ???????/????????????????????????????? Angry

Abbott started bombing Iraq in October.

you didnt mention date or use a link....gosh must get my army kit out... I might be needed..what about you lefties.. all under the beds nice and snug with your white flags...

Grin

Lol, all the right wing kids are getting off the crack and signing up today says cods Grin

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jackmountain Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 350 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #610 - Dec 16^th, 2014 at 11:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:32pm: jackmountain wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:30pm: Why should he, you make excuses for your particularly stupid posts. Ah, another criminal apologist. The list is growing. I wasn't apologizing for you. Cheers
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #611 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:52am Take pause to think about your family and how lucky you are to have them, cherish them and put the minor things in the bin where they belong. The outpouring of love in the form of floral tributes at Martin Place says it all.
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #612 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 8:11am

Lobo wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:24pm:

Sydney siege ends: gunman inspired by IS but driven by personal crises

Politically motivated Islamist terrorist or a disturbed individual consumed by personal crises looking to end his life in a blaze of publicity?

Sydney siege gunman Man Haron Monis was a combination of both.

But his late conversion to the brutal interpretation of Sunni Islam popularised by Islamic State and the manner of his attack suggests to terrorism analysts that he had few, if any, deep connections to IS, also known as ISIL.

"This is a person in personal crisis, at the end of his tether. He was looking for attention and a way out," said Adam Dolnik from the University of Wollongong, a terrorism analyst who has advised more than 50 governments on counter-terrorism and hostage negotiations.

"It wasn't unlike most of the hostage situations that police deal with that don't involve politically-motivated violence."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-ends-gunman-inspired-by-is-but-driven-by-...

Just how do you get one of these 'counter-terrorism and hostage negotiations' jobs? I'm looking for a bit of extra pocket money.

Like, it's supposed to be 'counter-terrorism' -- Monis should have had every alarm bell on the planet ringing. Supposedly ASIO had a file on him; he was reporting to the police every day. Even the Muslim community had warned the government about him as early as 2007 and again in 2008.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75162 Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #613 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 8:15am ColdFact wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 8:11am: Like, it's supposed to be 'counter-terrorism' -- Monis should have had every alarm bell on the planet ringing why? he wasn't a terrorist, he was a lunatic.
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #614 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 8:20am

ColdFact wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 8:11am:

Lobo wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 7:24pm:

Sydney siege ends: gunman inspired by IS but driven by personal crises

Politically motivated Islamist terrorist or a disturbed individual consumed by personal crises looking to end his life in a blaze of publicity?

Sydney siege gunman Man Haron Monis was a combination of both.

But his late conversion to the brutal interpretation of Sunni Islam popularised by Islamic State and the manner of his attack suggests to terrorism analysts that he had few, if any, deep connections to IS, also known as ISIL.

"This is a person in personal crisis, at the end of his tether. He was looking for attention and a way out," said Adam Dolnik from the University of Wollongong, a terrorism analyst who has advised more than 50 governments on counter-terrorism and hostage negotiations.

"It wasn't unlike most of the hostage situations that police deal with that don't involve politically-motivated violence."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-ends-gunman-inspired-by-is-but-driven-by-...

Just how do you get one of these 'counter-terrorism and hostage negotiations' jobs? I'm looking for a bit of extra pocket money.

Like, it's supposed to be 'counter-terrorism' -- Monis should have had every alarm bell on the planet ringing. Supposedly ASIO had a file on him; he was reporting to the police every day. Even the Muslim community had warned the government about him as early as 2007 and again in 2008.

mmmm.....it looks like our protectors have been slack (to say the least). Close the gate after the horse has bolted.

Too much cigars and champagne and not enough time spent on the job?????? I worked alongside the ASIO blokes in the eighties, that's when ASIO was a secret (sssshhhhhhh) they were definitely rejects from somewhere, no one could figure out where though. The mental hospitals were closed down around that time......maybe?

If we are relying on these people for our security....God help us!

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