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Reply #645 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:45pm
 
AYanker wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:01pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:52pm:
Aussie wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 5:27pm:
AYanker wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 4:49pm:
I'm very sorry for what happened in your country today guys.  From my vista across the pond, you seem to be a peaceful people and unaccustomed to violence like this.  While you will surely ask yourselves why this happened and how you can prevent it from happening again, I hope you will not allow it to change who you are.

Our hatred and desire for revenge post 9/11 led us down a path of decadency I really don't think we'll ever recover from.  We have become renowned war mongers, spies, torturers and have sacrificed the values of liberty and transparency to appease our anger against others.  In the end, the weapons we developed to fortify our freedom have been turned on us to destroy it.  Every email is read, every call recorded; warrantless searches; checkpoints that aren't at the border; police officers that murder civilians weekly on camera and walk free; trigger-happy SWAT teams raiding barbershops in poor neighborhoods simply to verify barber's licenses; and even the smallest towns now have armored vehicles and arms from Iraq that the local police are now beginning to deploy to address misdemeanors and  collect fines. 

You do not want this to become your daily reality.  You *must not* allow this man to convince you to destroy yourselves.  People will seize on this opportunity to try to barter your freedom for your security.  Don't fall for it.  They'll call you "traitors" and "anti-Aussie" and other nasty things.  The more they talk, the more stubborn and noisy you need to get.  Shout them down.  Don't even let them *set foot* on that slippery slope. 

Secondly, I am warning you, as a black man living in this buggered-up, sadistic, evil, twisted, racist American society: hatred is like a cancer -- it is slow and budding at first, but quietly, it consumes everything you are, spreading from place to place until it kills the very organism that hosts it.  I see how you (as a people) treat immigrants in your country, and what I see makes me sad.  And at the core of it is that same budding hatred -- all of it's ugliness and viciousness tucked deep, deep down where it will ferment until it is bursting at the seams.  Hatred will only beget more hatred, and not just from those your nation mistreats.  It never stops there.  When you practice lack of compassion, you'll eventually lose it for each other.   


No argument from me on any of that, whatsoever.  Well said Yank!


really???  swat teams checking barber's licenses?  (which btw don't even exist).  every email read?  I think you swallowed a pile of BS rather too quickly.




[washingtonpost DOT COM]/news/the-watch/wp/2014/09/19/federal-appeals-court-stop-using-swat-style-ra
ids-for-regulatory-inspections/

[washingtonpost DOT COM]/opinions/katrina-vanden-heuvel-obama-should-offer-clemency-to-edward-snowde
n/2014/10/27/b233b054-5dfe-11e4-91f7-5d89b5e8c251_story.html

Sir, a simple Google search would reveal this information; you can find it anywhere.  I don't want to digress from the topic at hand, though.  I'm just hoping that Australians don't, as we Americans say, "drink the koolaid" offered by people who will capitalize on this push their anti-[insert race/ethnicity here] agenda.  This is the perfect time for them to strike, and it will ruin you if you buy it.


longweekend doesn't do Google....

Wink
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #646 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:48pm
 
red baron wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:19pm:
I have heard from a reliable source that the male died whilst wrestling with Monis, apparently Monis got control of the fight with Tori Johnson, beat the sh.t out of him then blew him away. I have also heard that Katrina Dawson died from a shotgun blast. The Police did not have shotguns.

No 'fatal' shots from friendly fire.


That's what 7 news were spouting.

I'll wait for official confirmation, myself.


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Reply #647 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:53pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:38pm:
I'm hearing that this criminal had a gun licence.

Shurely shome mishtake.



Some letter writer in the Daily Terror was saying that the shotty was "legally modified'...

So it could be hidden in a back-pack.

Cheesy
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Reply #649 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:54pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:02pm:
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FREEEEEDIVEEEEEER!!!!!

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Reply #650 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:55pm
 
I give up..... Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue
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Reply #651 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:58pm
 
red baron wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:19pm:
I have heard from a reliable source that the male died whilst wrestling with Monis, apparently Monis got control of the fight with Tori Johnson, beat the sh.t out of him then blew him away. I have also heard that Katrina Dawson died from a shotgun blast. The Police did not have shotguns.


Even if that is true, how do we know that the woman was not shot by Tori accidentally as he grabbed the gun from Monis?



red baron wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:19pm:
No 'fatal' shots from friendly fire.


I am calling bs on that one. No fatal shots? Who killed Monis then?
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Reply #652 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:38pm:
I'm hearing that this criminal had a gun licence.

Shurely shome mishtake.



Nah.  Link.

Such a licence would be issued by the State Government.  It matters not much when he got that Licence as that may have occurred when he had not shown himself to be a retarded ferking lunatic  BUT......how on Earth a Liberal Government in NSW allowed him to RETAIN it after all the serious and suggestive conduct is just beyond bizarre!

Where will the buck stop, huh?
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Reply #653 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 4:02pm
 
red baron wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:19pm:
I have heard from a reliable source that the male died whilst wrestling with Monis, apparently Monis got control of the fight with Tori Johnson, beat the sh.t out of him then blew him away. I have also heard that Katrina Dawson died from a shotgun blast. The Police did not have shotguns.

No 'fatal' shots from friendly fire.



so who killed Monis.???
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Reply #654 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 4:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:38pm:
I'm hearing that this criminal had a gun licence.

Shurely shome mishtake.



Just confirmed on 10 news....
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Reply #655 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 4:03pm
 
Page still not turning....
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Reply #656 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 4:03pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 2:56pm:
It's still not clear how the hostages died. Did Monis do it?



in a word YES.
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Reply #657 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 4:04pm
 
Well, I'll be hornswoggled....

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Reply #658 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 4:06pm
 
AYanker wrote on Dec 16th, 2014 at 4:49pm:
I'm very sorry for what happened in your country today guys.  From my vista across the pond, you seem to be a peaceful people and unaccustomed to violence like this.  While you will surely ask yourselves why this happened and how you can prevent it from happening again, I hope you will not allow it to change who you are.

Our hatred and desire for revenge post 9/11 led us down a path of decadency I really don't think we'll ever recover from.  We have become renowned war mongers, spies, torturers and have sacrificed the values of liberty and transparency to appease our anger against others.  In the end, the weapons we developed to fortify our freedom have been turned on us to destroy it.  Every email is read, every call recorded; warrantless searches; checkpoints that aren't at the border; police officers that murder civilians weekly on camera and walk free; trigger-happy SWAT teams raiding barbershops in poor neighborhoods simply to verify barber's licenses; and even the smallest towns now have armored vehicles and arms from Iraq that the local police are now beginning to deploy to address misdemeanors and  collect fines. 

You do not want this to become your daily reality.  You *must not* allow this man to convince you to destroy yourselves.  People will seize on this opportunity to try to barter your freedom for your security.  Don't fall for it.  They'll call you "traitors" and "anti-Aussie" and other nasty things.  The more they talk, the more stubborn and noisy you need to get.  Shout them down.  Don't even let them *set foot* on that slippery slope. 

Secondly, I am warning you, as a black man living in this buggered-up, sadistic, evil, twisted, racist American society: hatred is like a cancer -- it is slow and budding at first, but quietly, it consumes everything you are, spreading from place to place until it kills the very organism that hosts it.  I see how you (as a people) treat immigrants in your country, and what I see makes me sad.  And at the core of it is that same budding hatred -- all of it's ugliness and viciousness tucked deep, deep down where it will ferment until it is bursting at the seams.  Hatred will only beget more hatred, and not just from those your nation mistreats.  It never stops there.  When you practice lack of compassion, you'll eventually lose it for each other.   

Listen, Yank w@nker, you have no idea about Australia. Immigrants are treated very well compared to your bastion of democracy, despite which australians are among the least racist in the world.  so shut your mouth and crawl back into your hole.
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #659 - Dec 17th, 2014 at 4:08pm
 
Lobo wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 4:02pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 17th, 2014 at 3:38pm:
I'm hearing that this criminal had a gun licence.

Shurely shome mishtake.



Just confirmed on 10 news....



Surely Abbott stuffed up.

He could not possibly have a gun licence.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/12/17/16/13/sydney-siege-gunman-man-horan-...
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