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Reply #75 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

probably homegrown fools ...

Precisely my thoughts, too. Hanging a flag up indicates that it's ideologically motivated. Classic amateur attack.

A couple of young idiots who will hopefully pee their pants and come running out of the shop, hands raised, sooner rather than later.

I hope so, Greg.... for the sake of all concerned...

Probably having serious second thoughts about now... the longer it goes on the more likely they are to change their minds....

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Reply #77 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:16pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:03pm:

An expert on ABC Radio says this is not a classic Islamic terrorist attack lacking two features:

(a) Direct notification by the attacker to the media, notifying them of who they are and what they want.

(b) Immediate violence.

Ah, you clearly haven't been listening to Brian et al. There's no such this as "classical" islamic terror, because:
1. Muslims don't agree what they believe,
2. Nobody's been hurt,
3. It's the West's fault anyway.

Forgiven,

Namaste.

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See Profile For Update wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:58pm:

Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #78 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:21pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:03pm:

An expert on ABC Radio says this is not a classic Islamic terrorist attack lacking two features:

(a) Direct notification by the attacker to the media, notifying them of who they are and what they want.

(b) Immediate violence.

So the head hacking with foreign journalists in the Islamic state was not classical Islamic terror according to your leftist source?

Did they notify the media and wait some time before chopping heads off those journalists/aid workers?

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #80 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:25pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:03pm:

An expert on ABC Radio says this is not a classic Islamic terrorist attack lacking two features:

(a) Direct notification by the attacker to the media, notifying them of who they are and what they want.

(b) Immediate violence.

So the head hacking with foreign journalists in the Islamic state was not classical Islamic terror according to your leftist source?

Did they notify the media and wait some time before chopping heads off those journalists/aid workers?

classic Islamic terrorist attack -v- classic Islamic terror. Not the same thing, fella.

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Reply #81 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:26pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 11:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 11:19am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

probably homegrown fools ...

Precisely my thoughts, too. Hanging a flag up indicates that it's ideologically motivated. Classic amateur attack.

A couple of young idiots who will hopefully pee their pants and come running out of the shop, hands raised, sooner rather than later.

He's balding and middle aged, from what I saw.

I'm guessing mentally ill and acting alone. It just looks weird. He looks agitated, he has the wrong flag and his backpack looks ridiculous for some reason.

Just spotted a piccie of him - beard partly grey... could be a nutter.... reports are that he's armed.. no specifics.... the backpack could hold everything or nothing.....

Showed himself at a window.. only reasons he didn't eat a 7.62 would be they were not set up or authorities consider the possibility of a 'dead man's switch' on a bomb in the backpack...

Some reports of sounds like shots.... not confirmed... ROE for snipers would be only on order or in a clear life and death situation for an innocent...

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Reply #82 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:27pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:22pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

oh wait, ABC tweet just came in - man arrested and people exiting the building.

Looks like its all over.

Got a link for that? Cool

From ABC tweet (as stated) - and I was wrong, its not all over. The arrest was apparently something unrelated.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85379 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #83 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:27pm http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/a-man-is-holding-several-people-hostag... Reports vary between one man or two..... looks like one lone nutter.... no word on what the 'armed' means... no weapons identified..
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Reply #84 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:28pm

Make sure you thank the Labor/Greens coalition for this mess and those that vote for them and support their policies of bringing Terrorists to Australia..

after they shoot this one down we only have another 50,000 of the bastards that the Labor/Greens coalition let in because they dismantled our boarder protection...

and I read on this forum not so long ago that this sort of thing wouldn't happen in Australia..

some smug butthole if I recall correctly.. "can you smell the fear"

well ask those people in that café if they are fearful or not..

its a pity that it wasn't YOU...

you all know who im talking about..

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Reply #85 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:32pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

Showed himself at a window.. only reasons he didn't eat a 7.62 would be they were not set up or authorities consider the possibility of a 'dead man's switch' on a bomb in the backpack...

Some reports of sounds like shots.... not confirmed... ROE for snipers would be only on order or in a clear life and death situation for an innocent...

Thanks for the insight, G. And I guess the same thing goes for tear gas, flashbangs and the like?

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See Profile For Update wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2015 at 2:58pm:

Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85379 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place Reply #86 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:33pm Puh-lease. Australia, in its open-hearted way, has been taking in Muslims for decades.... I don't think this is the time for petty political bickering over who's responsible.. and there has never been any open border policy.
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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #87 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:35pm

MumboJumbo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:32pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

Showed himself at a window.. only reasons he didn't eat a 7.62 would be they were not set up or authorities consider the possibility of a 'dead man's switch' on a bomb in the backpack...

Some reports of sounds like shots.... not confirmed... ROE for snipers would be only on order or in a clear life and death situation for an innocent...

Thanks for the insight, G. And I guess the same thing goes for tear gas, flashbangs and the like?

If there is a 'dead man's switch' it would go off when the switch was released for any reason.... often done with body bombs so as to ensure that the martyr doesn't chicken out and hand over the bomb.... or has the switch grabbed out of hand....

I take it this is not The Chasers?

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #88 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:35pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:33pm:

Puh-lease. Australia, in its open-hearted way, has been taking in Muslims for decades.... I don't think this is the time for petty political bickering over who's responsible.. and there has never been any open border policy.

if you've lost control of our boarders because you dismantled them then you have an open boarder policy...

the Labor/Green coalition did that and they still support it... as do the moronic dropkicks that vote for them..

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Re: Sydney siege: Martin Place
Reply #89 - Dec 15^th, 2014 at 12:37pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 11:27am:

cods wrote on Dec 15^th, 2014 at 11:25am:

they went in for a reason it wasnt coffee.

They've been in there two and half hours now. You'd think if their reason was to kill people they would have done it by now.

Not necessarily?

If the intention is to get some " free TV time" and to "influence people", then it may be the longer it gets dragged out, the better.

Also, the longer it takes, "the greater the Economic cost", with the Sydney CBD operating well below "normal".

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