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Reply #30 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 11:35am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 7:36am:

Well balanced leftie here...... keep out of Middle Eastern wars that don't have any impact on us whatsoever.....and.....have more humane asylum seeker policies.

As far as drownings at sea, that's the risk people take when seeking asylum. I would do the same. Most asylum seekers that came here by boat and been settled here have said the same. They would take the risk again. Life is a risk. It's a lottery, some win, some don't, but I would never deny them the opportunity to try.

Totally concur.

Faced with a choice between the remote chance of drowning if I left, and the very un-remote likelihood of
being shot, blown-up, tortured etc if I remained, it would certainly be a risk I'd be prepared to take.

The Right don't seem to grasp this, nor can they grasp the fact that, if they are denied access to Aus on the
spurious basis that 'we're stopping them from drowning on their way here', then they'll simply go and drown
on their way to somewhere else. But then, the Right are perfectly OK with that, because then they're 'some-
one else's problem'.

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Reply #31 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 2:35pm

Kat wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 7:36am:

Well balanced leftie here...... keep out of Middle Eastern wars that don't have any impact on us whatsoever.....and.....have more humane asylum seeker policies.

As far as drownings at sea, that's the risk people take when seeking asylum. I would do the same. Most asylum seekers that came here by boat and been settled here have said the same. They would take the risk again. Life is a risk. It's a lottery, some win, some don't, but I would never deny them the opportunity to try.

Totally concur.

Faced with a choice between the remote chance of drowning if I left, and the very un-remote likelihood of
being shot, blown-up, tortured etc if I remained, it would certainly be a risk I'd be prepared to take.

The Right don't seem to grasp this, nor can they grasp the fact that, if they are denied access to Aus on the
spurious basis that 'we're stopping them from drowning on their way here', then they'll simply go and drown
on their way to somewhere else. But then, the Right are perfectly OK with that, because then they're 'some-
one else's problem'.

Angry

So the Asylum Seekers that board boats in Indonesia are being being shot, blown-up, tortured etc by Indonesia? Sad

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Reply #32 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:07pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:07am:

The Taliban were never defeated, they were just lying low, waiting for the yanks to go home. They will rise to power again. What a waste of ten years of war that was.

and you of course are deliriously happy about it. Your option was to do nothing... Your kind of idiot caused WW2

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Where Do Hard Righters Stand On This? Reply #34 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:23pm longweekend58 wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:09pm: Perhaps we should nuke the entire ME. that is probably the only way to stop the problem. note to Karnal since you are such an idiot: the above is a satirical joke.
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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: Where Do Hard Righters Stand On This? Reply #35 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:24pm Longie, that suggestion is not as silly as you might think. Muslims hate Jews, Muslims hate Christians, Muslims even hate other Muslims. Miserable, primitive, humorless bunch of ugly sub-humanoids. A proton dissassemblance might be the best thing...
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Reply #36 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:44pm

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

Longie, that suggestion is not as silly as you might think. Muslims hate Jews, Muslims hate Christians, Muslims even hate other Muslims. Miserable, primitive, humorless bunch of ugly sub-humanoids. A proton dissassemblance might be the best thing...

For decades, perhaps centuries the ME has been a constant scourge for the world and a disaster. Nothing ever works because most of them are stuck in a culture that hasn't moved on in 1000 years and a religion that is hell-bent (literally) on holding all progress back.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #37 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 5:33pm

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

Longie, that suggestion is not as silly as you might think. Muslims hate Jews, Muslims hate Christians, Muslims even hate other Muslims. Miserable, primitive, humorless bunch of ugly sub-humanoids. A proton dissassemblance might be the best thing...

you flatter the inbred aggressors

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Reply #38 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 5:40pm

____ wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 10:00pm:

jackmountain wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:56pm:

No one cut and run they just went home. Were not there to run the damn country nice person.

Too many people want handouts.

They were defeated and thats why the hard right are ignoring current Taliban atrocities. Why else would hard righters be so silent.

it's up to afghanistan to run their own country.
if problems from there come out here, we have a right and obligation to see that it does not recur.

islam is the problem

Does that attitude also apply to Syria?

yes, islam is the problem

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Re: Where Do Hard Righters Stand On This?
Reply #39 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:43pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 2:35pm:

Kat wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 7:36am:

Well balanced leftie here...... keep out of Middle Eastern wars that don't have any impact on us whatsoever.....and.....have more humane asylum seeker policies.

As far as drownings at sea, that's the risk people take when seeking asylum. I would do the same. Most asylum seekers that came here by boat and been settled here have said the same. They would take the risk again. Life is a risk. It's a lottery, some win, some don't, but I would never deny them the opportunity to try.

Totally concur.

Faced with a choice between the remote chance of drowning if I left, and the very un-remote likelihood of
being shot, blown-up, tortured etc if I remained, it would certainly be a risk I'd be prepared to take.

The Right don't seem to grasp this, nor can they grasp the fact that, if they are denied access to Aus on the
spurious basis that 'we're stopping them from drowning on their way here', then they'll simply go and drown
on their way to somewhere else. But then, the Right are perfectly OK with that, because then they're 'some-
one else's problem'.

Angry

So the Asylum Seekers that board boats in Indonesia are being being shot, blown-up, tortured etc by Indonesia? Sad

Their point of departure is irrelevant.

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Re: Where Do Hard Righters Stand On This?
Reply #40 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:24pm

Kat wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:43pm:

Their point of departure is irrelevant

It's relevant to your comment.

Kat wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

Faced with a choice between the remote chance of drowning if I left, and the very un-remote likelihood of being shot, blown-up, tortured etc if I remained, it would certainly be a risk I'd be prepared to take.

Unless Asylum Seekers departing Indonesia are actually being shot, blown-up and tortured by Indonesia why risk drowing from the result of an unseaworthy boat?

That is the crux of the refugee convention. Protecting people from the evil bad guys chasing you. If Indonesia got some commie dictator that was doing a Stalin and executing anyone for looking sideways then the boats would be justified.

Fly in, boat out, is not.... Cheesy

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Re: Where Do Hard Righters Stand On This?
Reply #41 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:52pm

____ wrote on Dec 16^th, 2014 at 9:22pm:

Australia withdrew knowing the Taliban were to be part of the Afghanistan government.

Taliban likely escalating attacks in Afghanistan to gain leverage in peace talks with Kabul government

janes.com/article/46517/taliban-likely-escalating-attacks-in-afghanistan-to-gain...

It was obvious the hard right supported Australia cut and running from Afghanistan since the Taliban was on track to attain government.

The big question now is where do the hard right stand on the Taliban.

I think that you have gone off the rails on this one.

For starters, the Pakistani Taliban is a completely different group to the Afghan Taliban.

It is like UK Labour and the ALP - they both use the term 'Labor' but are not the same group.

The Afghan Taliban have condemned the attack in Pakistan as un-Islamic.

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Abbott promised no tax hikes & no cuts to the ABC

There's a 'budget emergency', so we will give $9 billion to the Reserve Bank, spend $12 billion on some dubious jets, $2 billion to bomb Iraq, etc.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Where Do Hard Righters Stand On This? Reply #42 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 10:00pm oops the lefties have left the building.....
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Re: Where Do Hard Righters Stand On This?
Reply #43 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 10:50pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

Perhaps we should nuke the entire ME. that is probably the only way to stop the problem.

note to Karnal since you are such an idiot: the above is a satirical joke.

It would only take one. Mecca at Ramadan, when they are all doing the washing machine to kiss the meteor rock that mohammed carried over from his paganistic practices before inventing islam.

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Re: Where Do Hard Righters Stand On This?
Reply #44 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:55am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 5:33pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:24pm:

Longie, that suggestion is not as silly as you might think. Muslims hate Jews, Muslims hate Christians, Muslims even hate other Muslims. Miserable, primitive, humorless bunch of ugly sub-humanoids. A proton dissassemblance might be the best thing...

you flatter the inbred aggressors

Subhumans, Sprint. Untermenschen.. Aryans, Slavs, Jews, Semitics and tinted subhumans - that’s the hierarchy.

Gas them.

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