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Reply #30 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:20pm:

The Israelis expanded Israel in 1948, Soren.

http://medya.todayszaman.com/todayszaman/2012/11/22/Filistin.jpg

You going to deny the evidence of that map? Roll Eyes

The Israelis did not accept the 1948 borders, Soren so why do you believe the Arabs should have?

If Israel had withdrawn to the 1948 borders after the 1948 war, the Arabs would have more than likely accepted that status quo.

BTW, Israel attacked first in 1967. Roll Eyes

It is very obvious you don't know the history of the Arab-Israeli dispute, very obvious, Soren. You're letting your Islamophobia (as usual) do your talking for you. Roll Eyes

Maps, like statistics, depict whatever point you're attempting to make. You already know that, Brian, hence the nit-picking when it comes displays.

The total land area of Israel is approximately 23,000 sq. km. And despite arguments about their right to occupation they face this:

http://www.vox.com/a/maps-explain-the-middle-east

Sometimes it's not hard to sympathise with them, particularly as we in the West are facing another invasion by stealth - the stated aim of Islam - the Ummah, the global Caliphate.

Islamophobia! Grin

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 41287	Re: Malala condemns Jihadists, ..Malala aids Jihadists Reply #31 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:51pm So, you denying that Israel has expanded beyond it's UN Mandated borders, Lionel?
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jackmountain Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 350 Gender:	Re: Malala condemns Jihadists, ..Malala aids Jihadists Reply #32 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:55pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:51pm: So, you denying that Israel has expanded beyond it's UN Mandated borders, Lionel? Who cares, I hope they go all the way and rid the middle east of the middle eastturds.
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Reply #33 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 4:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

So, you denying that Israel has expanded beyond it's UN Mandated borders, Lionel? Roll Eyes

Brian,

I thought that that was just a proposal, and idea ?, ...FOR A WAY TO BRING PERMANENT PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST.

There is a YOUTUBE about how it will work.....

Klavan's One-State Solution_ Give the Middle East to the Jews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU

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Reply #34 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 4:59pm

Several lies there from Mr. Klavan, Y.

Non-Jews do not have "complete religious freedom" within Israel. Indeed, if the proposal to make citizenship dependent upon religious affiliation go through, it means non-Jews will not be considered citizens of Israel.

Women do not have "equality" within Israel. Ultra-Orthodox Jews have very similar views to traditional Muslims on the position of women.

Of course, handing the Middle East over to Israel would be satisfying the Israeli desire to create Eretz Israel - Greater Israel and be imposing Jewish rule on the Arabs without their permission. This would just reinforce the mistakes of the establishment of the modern state of Israel and give the OK to Israeli imperialism. Roll Eyes

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jackmountain Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 350 Gender:	Re: Malala condemns Jihadists, ..Malala aids Jihadists Reply #35 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 5:04pm It is still hug a muslim week precious.
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Lionel Edriess Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1932 Gender:	Re: Malala condemns Jihadists, ..Malala aids Jihadists Reply #36 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 5:30pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 4:59pm: ... Non-Jews do not have "complete religious freedom" within Israel. ... Fine. Then let them have it. After all, their designs on world supremacy go nowhere near that of the Islamists.
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Reply #37 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 5:37pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 5:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 4:59pm:

... Non-Jews do not have "complete religious freedom" within Israel. ...

Fine.

Then let them have it.

After all, their designs on world supremacy go nowhere near that of the Islamists.

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Well, if we are to believe the anti-Semites, Lionel, the Joose already control the world. Wink

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Reply #38 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 6:00pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 5:37pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 5:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 4:59pm:

... Non-Jews do not have "complete religious freedom" within Israel. ...

Fine.

Then let them have it.

After all, their designs on world supremacy go nowhere near that of the Islamists.

Cool

Well, if we are to believe the anti-Semites, Lionel, the Joose already control the world. Wink

Well, if the West can't soon decide on a collective action plan, they'll soon be facing another possible extinction event.

And it won't be the 'Jooose' that are the problem.

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Reply #39 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 6:45pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 5:37pm:

Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 5:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 4:59pm:

... Non-Jews do not have "complete religious freedom" within Israel. ...

Fine.

Then let them have it.

After all, their designs on world supremacy go nowhere near that of the Islamists.

Cool

Well, if we are to believe the anti-Semites, Lionel, the Joose already control the world. Wink

Well, if the West can't soon decide on a collective action plan, they'll soon be facing another possible extinction event.

And it won't be the 'Jooose' that are the problem.

Cool

Who are you claiming would be "the problem", Lionel?

Egypt has signed a peace treaty with Israel.
Jordan has signed a peace treaty with Israel.
Lebanon is a wreck, thanks to the Israelis.
Syria is a wreck.
Iraq is a wreck, in part thanks to the West and IS.
Iran is all talk and no action.
Saudi Arabia is all talk and no action.

Rest of the Muslim world? Sympathy and some tea and scones for the Palestinians but beyond that? Not much.

And before you claim that Iran will have nuclear weapons, do you really think Iran would risk nuclear annihilation for the Palestinians? Really? Roll Eyes

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Malala condemns Jihadists, ..Malala aids Jihadists Reply #40 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:13pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:51pm: So, you denying that Israel has expanded beyond it's UN Mandated borders, Lionel? Because??? Because it was attacked.
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Reply #41 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 11:31pm

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

So, you denying that Israel has expanded beyond it's UN Mandated borders, Lionel? Roll Eyes

Because???

Because it was attacked.

So was East Timor, old boy. Attacked and occupied. Should the cloth heads still be in charge today?

I’m keen to know what you think.

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Reply #42 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 12:49am

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

So, you denying that Israel has expanded beyond it's UN Mandated borders, Lionel? Roll Eyes

Because???

Because it was attacked.

Excuses, Soren.

If it has expanded beyond it's mandated borders, it has done so through conquest. What does that do to the legitimacy of the State of Israel? No other nation around the world recognises these annexations.

Tell me, Soren, do you think the world should recognise the Russian annexation of the Crimea? What about the impending annexation of Transnistria? If we let Israel get away with it's annexation how are you going to argue against the Russian efforts? Mmm?

As always, your shortsightedness and Islamophobia blind you to the broader ramifications of what is happening in Palestine. Roll Eyes

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Reply #43 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:31am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 12:49am:

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

So, you denying that Israel has expanded beyond it's UN Mandated borders, Lionel? Roll Eyes

Because???

Because it was attacked.

Excuses, Soren.

Israel handed back Gaza only to be attacked continuously.

Being attacked means it defends itself, including by creating a buffer zone. Once the attacks stop for good and Israel is recognised by all the Arab states that currently finance the attacks on it, it will negotiate the future of the Occupied Territories with partners who accept and support its existence.
Israel would be mad to hand territory - again, after Gaza - to people who are aiming to destroy it.

And if you think self-defence by Israel is just 'excuses' then you are mad.

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Reply #44 - Dec 21^st, 2014 at 10:47am

Soren wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 9:31am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 12:49am:

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

So, you denying that Israel has expanded beyond it's UN Mandated borders, Lionel? Roll Eyes

Because???

Because it was attacked.

Excuses, Soren.

Israel handed back Gaza only to be attacked continuously.

Being attacked means it defends itself, including by creating a buffer zone. Once the attacks stop for good and Israel is recognised by all the Arab states that currently finance the attacks on it, it will negotiate the future of the Occupied Territories with partners who accept and support its existence.
Israel would be mad to hand territory - again, after Gaza - to people who are aiming to destroy it.

And if you think self-defence by Israel is just 'excuses' then you are mad.

Listen to Golda Meir - the biggest load of propaganda I’ve ever heard the old boy sprout.

Germany should still be occupying Poland for the same reason.

No one has the right not to be offended, eh?

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