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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Pakistan - Muslim terrorists kill 145 Reply #15 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 3:17pm islamic terrorism will always reign while islam exists. In the fullness of time islam will be destroyed, by the deeds of muslims, the perversion in the qur'an and the pen of those who expose the progressive depravity of islamic doctrine.
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Reply #16 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:34pm

moses wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 3:17pm:

islamic terrorism will always reign while islam exists.

In the fullness of time islam will be destroyed, by the deeds of muslims, the perversion in the qur'an and the pen of those who expose the progressive depravity of islamic doctrine.

You forget that Christians were even worse yet

the Vatican is still there.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Pakistan - Muslim terrorists kill 145 Reply #17 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:45pm I am getting really tired of people who say Islam is like all other religions. It is quite different, and it harbours a deep illness.
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Reply #18 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:34pm:

moses wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 3:17pm:

islamic terrorism will always reign while islam exists.

In the fullness of time islam will be destroyed, by the deeds of muslims, the perversion in the qur'an and the pen of those who expose the progressive depravity of islamic doctrine.

You forget that Christians were even worse yet

the Vatican is still there.

He said the fullness of time Bobby..which I assume means if we don't destroy it then it's "Good Night Vienna" and Mother Nature just starts again..and tries to forget... Roll Eyes

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Reply #19 - Dec 17^th, 2014 at 9:29pm

brumbie wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 4:34pm:

moses wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 3:17pm:

islamic terrorism will always reign while islam exists.

In the fullness of time islam will be destroyed, by the deeds of muslims, the perversion in the qur'an and the pen of those who expose the progressive depravity of islamic doctrine.

You forget that Christians were even worse yet

the Vatican is still there.

He said the fullness of time Bobby..which I assume means if we don't destroy it then it's "Good Night Vienna" and Mother Nature just starts again..and tries to forget... Roll Eyes

Notice 2 people are killed in Australia & almost every thread on here is about it
but 145 get killed in Pakistan & hardly a mention here?

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Reply #20 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 11:08am

issuevoter wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 6:45pm:

I am getting really tired of people who say Islam is like all other religions. It is quite different, and it harbours a deep illness.

How is it different?

It is an evangelical, proselytizing religion. Some of it's members believe violence is the appropriate response to many situations which they justify through reference to their holy works. This is no different from Christianity and it's various denominations. Grin

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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Reply #21 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 11:32am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 9:29pm:

Notice 2 people are killed in Australia & almost every thread on here is about it
but 145 get killed in Pakistan & hardly a mention here?

When we see muslims suffering from a heinous act committed against them, its becomes more difficult to paint them as inhuman monsters.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #22 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:11pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 9:29pm:

Notice 2 people are killed in Australia & almost every thread on here is about it
but 145 get killed in Pakistan & hardly a mention here?

When we see muslims suffering from a heinous act committed against them, its becomes more difficult to paint them as inhuman monsters.

Lol..the perpetrators were also muslim..and they are inhuman monsters Roll Eyes

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Pakistan - Muslim terrorists kill 145 Reply #23 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:14pm Yes they are Brumbie. But it doesn't quite gel with the assertions we've seen around here that muslims are not concerned enough about terrorism, and/or they are secret supporters of it.
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Reply #24 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:24pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:14pm:

Yes they are Brumbie.

But it doesn't quite gel with the assertions we've seen around here that muslims are not concerned enough about terrorism, and/or they are secret supporters of it.

I have no doubt that muslims are concerned about terrorism and i doubt if the majority are secret supporters but it seems they are petrified of the minority in their society. This has happened in the UK and it essentially the very reason why that country will soon become embroiled in civil disorder..simply because good men will do nothing and the left are destabilizing the country. We have a 10 year head start over here and yet we are following them down the rabbit hole.

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Reply #25 - Dec 18^th, 2014 at 4:10pm

Sir Bobby wrote: Quote:

You forget that Christians were even worse yet

the Vatican is still there.

You forgot the reformation.

The Catholics had to divest themselves of much of their evil man made doctrine and try and get closer to the actual teachings of Christ.

Conversely a reformation of islam would require muslims dispose of the depravity muhammad taught, in favour of a more humane doctrine.

End result: islam is destroyed.

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Reply #26 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:25am

brumbie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 12:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 18^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 17^th, 2014 at 9:29pm:

Notice 2 people are killed in Australia & almost every thread on here is about it
but 145 get killed in Pakistan & hardly a mention here?

When we see muslims suffering from a heinous act committed against them, its becomes more difficult to paint them as inhuman monsters.

Lol..the perpetrators were also muslim..and they are inhuman monsters Roll Eyes

gandalf, brumbie,

You are both mistaken [.......i.e. misrepresenting the circumstance].

The perpetrators of these murders [in Pakistan and Australia] BOTH, BOTH, BOTH, regarded THEMSELVES as moslems and as righteous......and regarded their victims as INFIDELS who deserved to die at their hands [the righteous moslems].

For the devout moslem, killing infidels is 'good works', AND A COMPLETELY LAWFUL ACT.

The devout moslem has the mindset of RIGHTEOUS HATRED, towards all infidels [.....i.e. BECAUSE THEY ARE INFIDELS!!]

We can see this mindset here, in another report.....
e.g.

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Islamists: "Destruction is a Matter of Time"

by Mitchell Bard • November 25, 2014 at 5:00 am

"If the Jews left Palestine to us, would we start loving them?

Of course not.

The Jews are infidels not because I say so but because Allah does...

They aren't our enemies because they occupy Palestine;

they would be our enemies even if they had not occupied anything."
— Muhammad Hussein Ya'qub, Egyptian cleric.........

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ISLAMIC LAW teaches - EVERY MOSLEM - that murdering those who are not moslems [i.e. those who reject ISLAM], is a lawful act.

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

Yadda said....

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Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['unbelievers'].

TRUTH.

All cognisant moslems themselves, know this to be true, and deny and hide this criminal intent from their non-moslem host communities.

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Reply #27 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:00pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:25am:

gandalf, brumbie,

You are both mistaken [.......i.e. misrepresenting the circumstance].

The perpetrators of these murders [in Pakistan and Australia] BOTH, BOTH, BOTH, regarded THEMSELVES as moslems and as righteous......and regarded their victims as INFIDELS who deserved to die at their hands [the righteous moslems].

So, when a Christian kills someone and proclaims they did it out of righteous belief in their religion, they should be believed, Yadda and be considered to be real Christians?

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For the devout moslem, killing infidels is 'good works', AND A COMPLETELY LAWFUL ACT.

So do Christians, Yadda.

Tell me, what is your opinion of Sprint's proclamations that he is a Christian and that he wants to kill all Muslims?

You perceive any contradictions there? Any at all? Roll Eyes

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139221 Gender:	Re: Pakistan - Muslim terrorists kill 145 Reply #28 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:09pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:00pm: Tell me, what is your opinion of Sprint's proclamations that he is a Christian and that he wants to kill all Muslims? Kill all Muslims, and raze all Mosques to the ground. The sort of stuff they teach at Sunday School.
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Reply #29 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:00pm:

Yadda wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:25am:

gandalf, brumbie,

You are both mistaken [.......i.e. misrepresenting the circumstance].

The perpetrators of these murders [in Pakistan and Australia] BOTH, BOTH, BOTH, regarded THEMSELVES as moslems and as righteous......and regarded their victims as INFIDELS who deserved to die at their hands [the righteous moslems].

So, when a Christian kills someone and proclaims they did it out of righteous belief in their religion, they should be believed, Yadda and be considered to be real Christians?

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For the devout moslem, killing infidels is 'good works', AND A COMPLETELY LAWFUL ACT.

So do Christians, Yadda.

Tell me, what is your opinion of Sprint's proclamations that he is a Christian and that he wants to kill all Muslims?

You perceive any contradictions there? Any at all? Roll Eyes

There is no jihad in Christianity.

There is no Christian doctrine requiring that Christianity be spread by the sword. There is no Christian doctrine requiring the subjugation and taxation/killing of non-Christians.

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