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Reply #120 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:19pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

moses wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

Is it associated with extremism?

it is associated with muslims ... from what I heard, just about every muslim house has that somewhere in the house ... much the same as most christian houses will have a cross or a photo of the Madonna somewhere .

Yeah, and a warlord and a mother are the same sorta thing to have before you as an example to emulate.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #121 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:20pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:09pm:

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

[quote author=moses link=1418913241/113#113 date=1419047715]Is it associated with extremism?

it is associated with muslims ... from what I heard, just about every muslim house has that somewhere in the house ... much the same as most christian houses will have a cross or a photo of the Madonna somewhere .

Still trying the Catholics and Protestants are all the same routine...

Catholics and protestants? Who mentioned protestants ...

You. See the highlighted part. "Most Christian houses". That includes Protestant Christians.

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The vast majority of Protestants do not have a photo of the madonna or a cross in their house.

I'm speaking from my experience, mainly catholic and orthodox .... To my knowledge, I've never been in a protestants house ... at least not one who was religious enough to have any any icons or images around.

Of course you will not find icons and images in a Protestant's house. The bible says not to have them.

Maybe a bit more research, and a bit less speaking from limited personal experience as if it was unquestionable fact, may help.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #122 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:23pm

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

moses wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

Is it associated with extremism?

it is associated with muslims ... from what I heard, just about every muslim house has that somewhere in the house ... much the same as most christian houses will have a cross or a photo of the Madonna somewhere .

Yeah, and a warlord and a mother are the same sorta thing to have before you as an example to emulate.

listen, in my opinion they're both just as nuts as each other ... you believe a real virgin gave birth? yeah right .... lets see how you act when your daughter tells you that....

however, despite whatever I believe, people have a right to believe what they like ... if they want to believe in Mohammed, thats their right, who are you to tell someone they are evil for doing so?

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #123 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:25pm

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:20pm:

You. See the highlighted part. "Most Christian houses". That includes Protestant Christians.

Ok, lets change that to catholics ... does that make you feel better? the point still stands.

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:20pm:

Of course you will not find icons and images in a Protestant's house. The bible says not to have them.Maybe a bit more research, and a bit less speaking from limited personal experience as if it was unquestionable fact, may help.

and you've just proven you missed the point altogether. Cheesy

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #124 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:27pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:23pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

moses wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

Is it associated with extremism?

it is associated with muslims ... from what I heard, just about every muslim house has that somewhere in the house ... much the same as most christian houses will have a cross or a photo of the Madonna somewhere .

Yeah, and a warlord and a mother are the same sorta thing to have before you as an example to emulate.

listen, in my opinion they're both just as nuts as each other ... you believe a real virgin gave birth? yeah right .... lets see how you act when your daughter tells you that....

however, despite whatever I believe, people have a right to believe what they like ... if they want to believe in Mohammed, thats their right, who are you to tell someone they are evil for doing so?

Yep people believe pedophilia is normal and killing, raping and abusing women is ok just like you.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #125 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:29pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:20pm:

You. See the highlighted part. "Most Christian houses". That includes Protestant Christians.

Ok, lets change that to catholics ... does that make you feel better? the point still stands.

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:20pm:

Of course you will not find icons and images in a Protestant's house. The bible says not to have them.Maybe a bit more research, and a bit less speaking from limited personal experience as if it was unquestionable fact, may help.

and you've just proven you missed the point altogether. Cheesy

Then why don't you just spell out what your point was then. This should be interesting.

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Reply #126 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:33pm

jackmountain wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:23pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

moses wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

Is it associated with extremism?

it is associated with muslims ... from what I heard, just about every muslim house has that somewhere in the house ... much the same as most christian houses will have a cross or a photo of the Madonna somewhere .

Yeah, and a warlord and a mother are the same sorta thing to have before you as an example to emulate.

listen, in my opinion they're both just as nuts as each other ... you believe a real virgin gave birth? yeah right .... lets see how you act when your daughter tells you that....

however, despite whatever I believe, people have a right to believe what they like ... if they want to believe in Mohammed, thats their right, who are you to tell someone they are evil for doing so?

Yep people believe pedophilia is normal and killing, raping and abusing women is ok just like you.

No Biggy

like I said, you can believe what you like .... that doesn't mean you are free to break our laws. You can get your rocks off dreaming about kids all you want jack, I don't care ... as long as you don't act on it.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #127 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:35pm

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:20pm:

You. See the highlighted part. "Most Christian houses". That includes Protestant Christians.

Ok, lets change that to catholics ... does that make you feel better? the point still stands.

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:20pm:

Of course you will not find icons and images in a Protestant's house. The bible says not to have them.Maybe a bit more research, and a bit less speaking from limited personal experience as if it was unquestionable fact, may help.

and you've just proven you missed the point altogether. Cheesy

Then why don't you just spell out what your point was then. This should be interesting.

the point is having a commonly accepted religious symbol does not make you a terrorist .. . try to keep up

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #128 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:35pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:23pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

moses wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

Is it associated with extremism?

it is associated with muslims ... from what I heard, just about every muslim house has that somewhere in the house ... much the same as most christian houses will have a cross or a photo of the Madonna somewhere .

Yeah, and a warlord and a mother are the same sorta thing to have before you as an example to emulate.

listen, in my opinion they're both just as nuts as each other ... you believe a real virgin gave birth? yeah right .... lets see how you act when your daughter tells you that....

however, despite whatever I believe, people have a right to believe what they like ... if they want to believe in Mohammed, thats their right, who are you to tell someone they are evil for doing so?

The point is this: belief in an idealised motherhood is not the same as the belief in an idealised bloody warlord.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #129 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:46pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:35pm:

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:20pm:

You. See the highlighted part. "Most Christian houses". That includes Protestant Christians.

Ok, lets change that to catholics ... does that make you feel better? the point still stands.

Good riddance wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:20pm:

Of course you will not find icons and images in a Protestant's house. The bible says not to have them.Maybe a bit more research, and a bit less speaking from limited personal experience as if it was unquestionable fact, may help.

and you've just proven you missed the point altogether. Cheesy

Then why don't you just spell out what your point was then. This should be interesting.

the point is having a commonly accepted religious symbol does not make you a terrorist .. . try to keep up

Then it is you who has missed the point of what was happening on Monday.

Having a swastika in your house doesn't make you a nazi. On that point you are right. Killing a few Jews under a swastika is entirely different. Now it has taken on a totally new meaning. What that swastika now symbolises is hatred and death, not just a symbol in someone's house.

Having a common Islamic flag in your house... No big deal. Get hostages to hold up that flag before you kill them in the name of Islam... Totally different.

How you seem to be missing the actual symbolism and message here -as well as all the other terrorist incidents using this same flag- is quite amazing.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #130 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:12pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:23pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:58pm:

moses wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 1:55pm:

Is it associated with extremism?

it is associated with muslims ... from what I heard, just about every muslim house has that somewhere in the house ... much the same as most christian houses will have a cross or a photo of the Madonna somewhere .

Yeah, and a warlord and a mother are the same sorta thing to have before you as an example to emulate.

listen, in my opinion they're both just as nuts as each other .

Well, then you are a no-brain numpty who refuses to perceive even the most glaring differences so as to be able to persist in your stupid no-thinking equivalence.

You have plucked out your own eyes some years ago, pal.

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Reply #131 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:17pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:47pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 20^th, 2014 at 12:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 1:53pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

The picture of the jihad flag on the window in that café will be up on an ISIS website any day.

What Jihad flag? You just make sheat up as you go? It's already been proven several times that the flag has nothing to do with any terrorist organisation ..

The black flag is the flag of jihad.

"During the 2000s, it became popular in mujahid terminology to refer to the black flag as al-raya and the white flag as al-liwa', after the terms of the black and white flags flown by Muhammad according to the hadith. The white flag is sometimes identified as the "flag of the Caliphate" while the black one is dubbed the "flag of Jihad"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Standard

the flag (or banner) Monis had wasn't the black flag in your link ..

if anyone does anything on a black background are you going to call it a flag of Jihad?

Yes. Black flag with the shahada = jihadi flag.

White flag with the shahada = jihadi flag.

Any colour flag with the shahada = jihadi flag.

But black is the most obvious jihadi flag.

Green shahada - caliphate, in control, home and hosed.

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Reply #132 - Dec 20^th, 2014 at 10:44pm

"If we accept that it was an ISIS attack which it wasn't we give them the opportunity to claim responsibility and to use it in their advertising."

I suppose the fact he said it was totally escapes you muppet ?

You silly little lefty muppets don't realize how stupid you look when you post dribble like that. You can't even think for yourselves.

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