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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #15 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:11am

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

The terrorist had hostages post videos online saying it was an attack by the Islamic state

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:22am:

he was a psycho who tried to gain some sort of credibility/ acceptability by using his religion

What rubbish!

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #16 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:12am

moses wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

You're still so afraid to let the actual doctrine be the adjudicator?

Why are you so doctrinaire?

Surely a religion is what it's believers believe it is?

The overwhelming majority of Muslims believe Islam is the religion of peace and seek only to live quiet, normal lives with their fellows. Just like Christians yet when one Muslim goes crazy, suddenly all Muslims are responsible and their religion is at fault. What happens when one Christian goes crazy? Or one Hindu or one Jew? You lot make excuses, hide your faces and refuse to be consistent. You make every excuse under the book for everybody except Muslims! Hypocrites! Grin

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #17 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:15am

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

The terrorist had hostages post videos online saying it was an attack by the Islamic state

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:22am:

he was a psycho who tried to gain some sort of credibility/ acceptability by using his religion

What rubbish!

really? what terrorist groupp was he a member off?

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #18 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:22am

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

The terrorist had hostages post videos online saying it was an attack by the Islamic state

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:22am:

he was a psycho who tried to gain some sort of credibility/ acceptability by using his religion

What rubbish!

really? what terrorist groupp was he a member off?

If you listen to the videos the hostages were forced to make they say this was an attack by the Islamic state, for some reason the apologists deny what the hostages said to go with their own lunatic theories.

For some reason the braindead leftist apologists claim this had nothing to do with Islam.

If it quacks like a duck........
www.liveleak.com/view?i=91e_1418646394

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #19 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

The terrorist had hostages post videos online saying it was an attack by the Islamic state

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:22am:

he was a psycho who tried to gain some sort of credibility/ acceptability by using his religion

What rubbish!

really? what terrorist groupp was he a member off?

Who knows? Anyway you don't have to be a member of a group to be a terrorist. There was too much logic in this instance for it to be the work of a person to be out of control suffering psychosis. These are the reasons- It happened near Christmas.
He pick Martin Place which is a high profile area in the middle of Sydney.
He pick high ups.
Isn't Lindt owned by jews?

All the same things Islamic terrorists do the world over. Wake up to yourself.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #20 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:31am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:22am:

If you listen to the videos the hostages were forced to make they say this was an attack by the Islamic state,

is that a terrorist group?

If I said this is an attack by the Western world, does that mean I represent the USA? Or UK? Or the Institute of Public Affairs? or any other group you care to name?

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #21 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:32am

Man Monis was a mentally unstable fraudster. The Iranians warned the Australian Government of this back in 2000.

Monis defrauded Iranian citizens of $200,000 and stole passports while posing as a travel agent in the early 1990's.

When he was close to being exposed he travelled on a pseudonym to Australia in 1996.

Monis gained an Australian asylum visa in 2001 by fraudulently claiming to be persecuted for his religious beliefs by the Iranian Government.

After gaining his visa, Monis began posing as an expert in black magic advertising his talents in newspapers classified ads, and began molesting troubled women who sought help from him.

During his stay in Australia, Monis also pretended to be a Shi-ite ayatollah. The Sydney Shia community warned the AFP of his fakery back in 2009. Saying that nobody in Iran had ever heard of him as a religious figure. The Shi-ite community said that his writings did not resemble Shia religious writings.

In 2014, Monis claimed to be a sunni backer of IS.

Was this true? Was he continuing with his long pattern of fraud?

Was he even a Muslim?

Was he just insane?

Who knows?

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #22 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:33am

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

The terrorist had hostages post videos online saying it was an attack by the Islamic state

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:22am:

he was a psycho who tried to gain some sort of credibility/ acceptability by using his religion

What rubbish!

really? what terrorist groupp was he a member off?

Who knows? Anyway you don't have to be a member of a group to be a terrorist. There was too much logic in this instance for it to be the work of a person to be out of control suffering psychosis. These are the reasons- It happened near Christmas.
He pick Martin Place which is a high profile area in the middle of Sydney.
He pick high ups.
Isn't Lindt owned by jews?

All the same things Islamic terrorists do the world over. Wake up to yourself.

It's a bit coincidental that the guy executed was gay also. We all know what mussos think of gay people.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #23 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:36am

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

Who knows?

apparently not you

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

Anyway you don't have to be a member of a group to be a terrorist.

no, apparently you only have to be Islamic Cheesy

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

There was too much logic in this instance for it to be the work of a person to be out of control suffering psychosis

there was logic in how martin Bryant went about shooting people, there was logic in how Milat went about it

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

It happened near Christmas.

a highly stressful time for everybody

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

He pick Martin Place which is a high profile area in the middle of Sydney

he lives in Sydney

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

He pick high ups.

not even sure what that's supposed to mean ...

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

Isn't Lindt owned by jews?

Are we guessing or asking?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75019 Gender:	Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist Reply #24 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:37am Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:33am: It's a bit coincidental that the guy executed was gay also. the guy tried to snatch the gun from him Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:33am: We all know what mussos think of gay people. about the same thing you do don't they?
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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #25 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:40am

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:36am:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

Who knows?

apparently not you

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

Anyway you don't have to be a member of a group to be a terrorist.

no, apparently you only have to be Islamic Cheesy

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

There was too much logic in this instance for it to be the work of a person to be out of control suffering psychosis

there was logic in how martin Bryant went about shooting people, there was logic in how Milat went about it

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

It happened near Christmas.

a highly stressful time for everybody

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

He pick Martin Place which is a high profile area in the middle of Sydney

he lives in Sydney

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

He pick high ups.

not even sure what that's supposed to mean ...

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:29am:

Isn't Lindt owned by jews?

Are we guessing or asking?

You know why I don't respond to you often, it's because it's an exercise in frustration. You just don't listen or think. Hot Load is just as bad.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #26 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:40am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:22am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

The terrorist had hostages post videos online saying it was an attack by the Islamic state

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:22am:

he was a psycho who tried to gain some sort of credibility/ acceptability by using his religion

What rubbish!

really? what terrorist groupp was he a member off?

If you listen to the videos the hostages were forced to make they say this was an attack by the Islamic state ...

The last I heard, no terrorist group had claimed him as one of theirs.

Has that changed?

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #27 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:44am

Julius Abbott wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

Man Monis was a mentally unstable fraudster. The Iranians warned the Australian Government of this back in 2000.

Monis defrauded Iranian citizens of $200,000 and stole passports while posing as a travel agent in the early 1990's.

When he was close to being exposed he travelled on a pseudonym to Australia in 1996.

Monis gained an Australian asylum visa in 2001 by fraudulently claiming to be persecuted for his religious beliefs by the Iranian Government.

After gaining his visa, Monis began posing as an expert in black magic advertising his talents in newspapers classified ads, and began molesting troubled women who sought help from him.

During his stay in Australia, Monis also pretended to be a Shi-ite ayatollah. The Sydney Shia community warned the AFP of his fakery back in 2009. Saying that nobody in Iran had ever heard of him as a religious figure. The Shi-ite community said that his writings did not resemble Shia religious writings.

In 2014, Monis claimed to be a sunni backer of IS.

Was this true? Was he continuing with his long pattern of fraud?

Was he even a Muslim?

Was he just insane?

Who knows?

He certainly perpetuated a terrorist act which makes him a terrorist. Add in the fact that he's muslim and incorporated Islamic beliefs in this act such as a jihad flag and other things , makes him an Islamic terrorist.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #28 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:48am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:40am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:22am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

The terrorist had hostages post videos online saying it was an attack by the Islamic state

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:22am:

he was a psycho who tried to gain some sort of credibility/ acceptability by using his religion

What rubbish!

really? what terrorist groupp was he a member off?

If you listen to the videos the hostages were forced to make they say this was an attack by the Islamic state ...

The last I heard, no terrorist group had claimed him as one of theirs.

Has that changed?

Doesn't matter. You don't have to be in a group to be a terrorist.

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Re: Let’s be honest ManHaron Monis was an IS terrorist
Reply #29 - Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:53am

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:40am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:22am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:15am:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:11am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 11:08am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 10:47am:

The terrorist had hostages post videos online saying it was an attack by the Islamic state

John Smith wrote on Dec 19^th, 2014 at 9:22am:

he was a psycho who tried to gain some sort of credibility/ acceptability by using his religion

What rubbish!

really? what terrorist groupp was he a member off?

If you listen to the videos the hostages were forced to make they say this was an attack by the Islamic state ...

The last I heard, no terrorist group had claimed him as one of theirs.

Has that changed?

Doesn't matter. You don't have to be in a group to be a terrorist.

So you admit that was not affiliated with any organised terrorist group (or any disorganised one, for that matter)?

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