Australian Politics Forum - 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon

Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #60 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:38pm You really are an old bitch, Pecker.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 136905 Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #61 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:52pm Rocketanski wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:38pm: You really are an old bitch, Pecker. You don't like my stats? Murder Rates in Death Penalty States and Non-Death Penalty States http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had...
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95479 Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #62 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 4:33pm Rocketanski wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:38pm: You really are an old bitch, Pecker. Now now, ladies, keep it kleen.
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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #63 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 5:00pm You and your butt queen Karnal had to slag me off even in a forum I haven't anything to do with. Time for a bit of euthanasia you old cosies.
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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #64 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 5:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:52pm: You don't like my stats? Did they ever commit another murder? You don't like my question?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95479 Gender:	Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon Reply #65 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 5:08pm Rocketanski wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 5:00pm: You and your butt queen Karnal had to slag me off even in a forum I haven't anything to do with. Time for a bit of euthanasia you old cosies. Pass the amyl first, dear. A bit of a snort, and I'm anyone's.
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Reply #66 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 6:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:52pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:38pm:

You really are an old bitch, Pecker.

You don't like my stats?

Murder Rates in Death Penalty States and Non-Death Penalty States

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/murderratesdpvsnodp.jpg

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had...

meaningless statistics. Unless of course you have stats before the introduction of the death penalty for all those states. Which you dont.

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Reply #67 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 6:08pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 21^st, 2014 at 5:57pm:

South East Asia is not awash with drugs anymore. Mind you, for a Muslim country, alcohol in Indonesia is mercifully cheap, so you can still go to Indo and get sh!tfaced.

The cheapest drug there is tobacco. Cigarettes are about a dollar a pack.

really , where? Id love to know.

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Reply #68 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 6:31pm

ian wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 6:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:52pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:38pm:

You really are an old bitch, Pecker.

You don't like my stats?

Murder Rates in Death Penalty States and Non-Death Penalty States

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/murderratesdpvsnodp.jpg

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had...

meaningless statistics. Unless of course you have stats before the introduction of the death penalty for all those states. Which you dont.

oh we have seen your take on the DP before, pot head. tat is where you deem to know more about the Singaporean Legal System than the Law Society. that was one of your less brilliant moments. too much dope that evening?

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Reply #69 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 6:55pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:52pm:

You don't like my stats?

Did they ever commit another murder?

You don't like my question?

A deterrent after the fact? Grin

Oh boy, the Troll King's on a roll today.

Capital punishment is not an effective deterrent for potential criminals.

The fact that your brain can't process that fact, is of no surprise to anyone in this forum.

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Reply #70 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 7:03pm

ian wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 6:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:52pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:38pm:

You really are an old bitch, Pecker.

You don't like my stats?

Murder Rates in Death Penalty States and Non-Death Penalty States

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/murderratesdpvsnodp.jpg

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had...

meaningless statistics.

No, it means that from 1990 to 2009, the states with capital punishment had higher rates of murder than those without.

Here, have a look again:

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Reply #71 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 7:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 6:55pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:52pm:

You don't like my stats?

Did they ever commit another murder?

You don't like my question?

A deterrent after the fact? Grin

Oh boy, the Troll King's on a roll today.

Capital punishment is not an effective deterrent for potential criminals.

The fact that your brain can't process that fact, is of no surprise to anyone in this forum.

but your stats dont show that.

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Reply #72 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 7:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 7:03pm:

ian wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 6:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:52pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:38pm:

You really are an old bitch, Pecker.

You don't like my stats?

Murder Rates in Death Penalty States and Non-Death Penalty States

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/murderratesdpvsnodp.jpg

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had...

meaningless statistics.

No, it means that from 1990 to 2009, the states with capital punishment had higher rates of murder than those without.

Here, have a look again:

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/murderratesdpvsnodp.jpg

No, your stats are still meaningless without a baseline or trend. What you need to do in order to attempt to prove your point is to post the stats before and after the introduction of the death penalty. Get it? Despite which i tend to think the murderers may have worked out which states have the death penalty. So the states with lower stats may just have more mobile criminals.

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Reply #73 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 7:10pm

ian wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 7:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 6:55pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:52pm:

You don't like my stats?

Did they ever commit another murder?

You don't like my question?

A deterrent after the fact? Grin

Oh boy, the Troll King's on a roll today.

Capital punishment is not an effective deterrent for potential criminals.

The fact that your brain can't process that fact, is of no surprise to anyone in this forum.

but your stats dont show that.

And whatever happened to judicial punishment? Whether it's a deterrent or not is an entirely different question.

I don't advocate the chop for all murderers, but I do support it for the monsters who kill for pleasure.

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Re: 'Bali 9' Chan and Sukumaran to die soon
Reply #74 - Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 7:10pm

ian wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 7:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 6:55pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 5:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2014 at 2:52pm:

You don't like my stats?

Did they ever commit another murder?

You don't like my question?

A deterrent after the fact? Grin

Oh boy, the Troll King's on a roll today.

Capital punishment is not an effective deterrent for potential criminals.

The fact that your brain can't process that fact, is of no surprise to anyone in this forum.

but your stats dont show that.

Not on their own, no.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/discussion-recent-deterrence-studies

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/law-enforcement-views-deterrence#lawenforcement

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/study-88-criminologists-do-not-believe-death-pen...

http://deathpenaltycurriculum.org/student/c/about/arguments/argument1b.htm

http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/issues/death-penalty/us-death-penalty-facts/t...

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