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Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:00pm
 
www.theage.com.au/world/indonesias-mixed-messages-on-fate-of-drug-traffickers-on...

White aprons will be hung carefully around their necks, with red targets positioned over their chests. They will be offered blindfolds, and asked if they would like to stand, sit or lie down.

Then their hearts will be riddled with judicially sanctioned bullets until they are dead.

Indonesia's method of execution has not changed since a decree signed by its first president in 1964. The enthusiasm with which it is applied has waxed and waned over the 50 years since, but from his early talk,
the seventh President, Joko Widodo, seems likely to be one of the more bloodthirsty.


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Australia must return this bloodlust and premeditated, cold-blooded killing of our citizens with severe revenge.

Australia has given Muslim Indonesia everything...billions of dollars in aid, billions more dollars and the lives of doctors and nurses in a chopper crash after the tsunami...and other help.
She has asked nicely for the lives of her citizens currently on death row, but in return has only received hate and scorn.
Some say "typical, what else did you expect"?

Australia must;

. Tell Indonesia to get stuffed, including the President.
. Cancel all security ties with Indonesia
. Stop all aid to Indonesia, all of it, every last cent.
. Stop sending Indonesia cattle and food of any description.
. Stop all exports to, and imports from, Indonesia.
. Ban all travel from Australia to Indonesia, and vice versa.
. Boot the Indonesian ambassador out of Australia permanently, and bulldoze the Indonesian embassy.
. Deport all Indonesian nationals out of Australia, including students.
. Close all Indonesian companies/businesses in Australia.
. Tell all Australians to, next time there's a tsunami/earthquake in Indonesia, simply ignore it all and pretend that Indonesia doesn't exist.

...for starters


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Reply #1 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:04pm
 
bambu wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:00pm:
Ban all travel from Australia to Indonesia ...



The bogans will never give up their holidays in Bali.


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Reply #2 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:04pm:
bambu wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:00pm:
Ban all travel from Australia to Indonesia ...



The bogans will never give up their holidays in Bali.




They will if they're made to.
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Reply #3 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:06pm
 
they knew the risks and they took them ... they have no one else to blame but themselves ...

you certainly can't blame the Indonesians for enforcing their laws.
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Reply #4 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:09pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:06pm:
you certainly can't blame the Indonesians for enforcing their laws.



We can certainly criticise them for having barbaric laws.
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Reply #5 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:14pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:06pm:
they knew the risks and they took them ... they have no one else to blame but themselves ...

you certainly can't blame the Indonesians for enforcing their laws.


Of course you can.
They're pretending to be civilised ...what a joke.
Just a human rights wasteland in reality.

Bob Hawke called Malaysia 'barbaric' when they execution-hanged Barlow and Chambers.
Hopefully he'll do the same to Indonesia when they execution-shred Chan [now a Christian, mentored by The Salvation Army] and Sukumaran soon.

Abbott needs to start a 'war' with Indonesia over this, fire up and stand for something!
The mamby pamby, PC drivel he goes on with about Indonesia, running up there all the time and seemingly licking their boots...is a big part of why he's way behind in the polls.
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Reply #6 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:16pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:09pm:
We can certainly criticise them for having barbaric laws.


you do that ... whereas, I'll criticise those who break their law ... even more so since the penalty is so extreme

bambu wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:14pm:
They're pretending to be civilised...


no ones pretending to be anything ... it is you who has label them as civillised or barbaric .. I don't think they care what you think
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Reply #7 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:17pm
 
Whats' the problem?  Break their Laws of which you have full knowledge, then cop the consequences.

Or, is this an anti capital punishment Thread?  If so, I'd take a very different position.
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Reply #8 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:20pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:09pm:
We can certainly criticise them for having barbaric laws.


you do that ... whereas, I'll criticise those who break their law ...



I criticise them too. Being opposed to the death penalty doesn't mean that one is opposed to all forms of punishment.

I'm perfectly capable of criticising more than one thing at a time:

- The Bali 9 are criminals, and deserve to be punished.

- The Indonesians have barbaric laws.

There, I did it.




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Reply #9 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:09pm:
We can certainly criticise them for having barbaric laws.


you do that ... whereas, I'll criticise those who break their law ...



I criticise them too. Being opposed to the death penalty doesn't mean that one is opposed to all forms of punishment.

I'm perfectly capable of criticising more than one thing at a time:

- The Bali 9 are criminals, and deserve to be punished.

- The Indonesians have barbaric laws.

There, I did it.





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Reply #10 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:24pm
 
John Smith wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:09pm:
We can certainly criticise them for having barbaric laws.


you do that ... whereas, I'll criticise those who break their law ... even more so since the penalty is so extreme

bambu wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:14pm:
They're pretending to be civilised...


no ones pretending to be anything ... it is you who has label them as civillised or barbaric .. I don't think they care what you think


They don't care what anyone thinks.
The Australian govt should make them care...or cut them adrift, put the national cheque book back in the safe, and ignore them forevermore.
Stop giving them money, food, trade, travel etc and the time of day.
Boot their ambassador and all their companies, businesses and students out.
Tell them to f off, and disconnect the phone.
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Reply #11 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:26pm
 
bambu wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:09pm:
We can certainly criticise them for having barbaric laws.


you do that ... whereas, I'll criticise those who break their law ... even more so since the penalty is so extreme

bambu wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:14pm:
They're pretending to be civilised...


no ones pretending to be anything ... it is you who has label them as civillised or barbaric .. I don't think they care what you think


They don't care what anyone thinks.
The Australian govt should make them care...or cut them adrift, put the national cheque book back in the safe, and ignore them forevermore.
Stop giving them money, food, trade, travel etc and the time of day.
Boot their ambassador and all their companies, businesses and students out.
Tell them to f off, and disconnect the phone.


Why....because they have capital punishment?  If so, we better get busy with this lot for starters:

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Reply #12 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:26pm
 
The big thing that worries me about this affair is the Australian authorities knew in advance what was going on and did nothing to prevent some of them from leaving the country.
In no way am I condoning the actions, greed, or stupidity of those involved.


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WHEN Lee Rush learned in April 2005 that his son Scott was off to Bali, he felt sick. 
 
Scott had no money, no passport - as far as his father knew - and a history of drug use. Rush phoned an old lawyer friend, Robert Myers, who voiced his worst fears: that Scott might be travelling as a paid courier to carry drugs.

The two men agreed the 19-year-old had to be stopped. Myers rang a contact in the Australian Federal Police and asked him to have Scott intercepted before he left the country, on suspicion of illegal activity. By his account, he was assured this would happen.

But the AFP took a different course. Instead, as the young Queenslander was preparing to fly out of Australia, the AFP tipped off their counterparts in the Indonesian National Police. Nine days later Rush was arrested with three other mules at Bali's Denpasar airport as they were about to return home with nearly 8kg of heroin strapped to their bodies. In September 2006 an Indonesian court sentenced Rush to death.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/how-the-afp-trapped-the-bali-nine/...


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Reply #13 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:32pm
 
bambu wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:24pm:
The Australian govt should make them care


just remember, they buy a lot more from us then we do from them .... the australian govt's not going to do poo
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Reply #14 - Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:33pm
 
Aussie wrote on Dec 20th, 2014 at 7:17pm:
Whats' the problem?  Break their Laws of which you have full knowledge, then cop the consequences.

Or, is this an anti capital punishment Thread?  If so, I'd take a very different position.


It sure is an anti-death chambers in Indonesia thread.

They have Chan and Sukumaran in prison...but oh no that's not good enough to suit them.

Their families are able to visit them if they're alive, and Muslim Indonesia certainly obviously doesn't want that.

Of course what we should do in reply is feed Indonesian criminals in our prisons to crocodiles Fridays at lunchtime...sell tickets and give the proceeds to charity.
Oh that's right, we're civilised.
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