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Reply #15 - Dec 23rd, 2014 at 5:10pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 4:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 3:54pm:
How about we create a scale of financial penalties for Islamophobia?

Write an internet post, unfairly attacking innocent Muslims?  $1,000.  A second offence?  $2,000 and so on and so on.

Attack a Muslim on the street verbally?  $1,000, a second offence, $2,000 and so on and so on.

Physically attack a Muslim?  $10,000, a second offence, $20,000 plus of course, any gaol time you accrue as well.

Anti-Muslim graphitto?  $1,000.  More Graphitti?  A thousand dollars extra per piece.

Soren, you'd soon be a very bankrupt man, the rate at which you post.   Roll Eyes



Good one, Brain, defender of free exchange of ideas - not.

Opposing Islam is not Islamophobia, bozo. It is opposing Islam. You can oppose things, you know, it's not compulsory to embrace all and every ideology, religion, norms and cultural practice.

Signing up for or supporting  terrorist activity here or overseas is, on the other hand, an offence.   You do recognise that there is Muslim terrorism around the world, don't you Brain, and that Australian Muslims are involved?  Don't you, Brain?


Whats wrong, Soren?  Can't you cope when your ideas are turned against you?    Roll Eyes

Personally, I'd prefer you just learnt to reorientate your moral compass to the same heading as the rest of society.  You know, the majority of Australians who support Multiculturalism and don't like people like you religiously persecuting Muslims?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #16 - Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:19pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 5:10pm:
Soren wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 4:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 3:54pm:
How about we create a scale of financial penalties for Islamophobia?

Write an internet post, unfairly attacking innocent Muslims?  $1,000.  A second offence?  $2,000 and so on and so on.

Attack a Muslim on the street verbally?  $1,000, a second offence, $2,000 and so on and so on.

Physically attack a Muslim?  $10,000, a second offence, $20,000 plus of course, any gaol time you accrue as well.

Anti-Muslim graphitto?  $1,000.  More Graphitti?  A thousand dollars extra per piece.

Soren, you'd soon be a very bankrupt man, the rate at which you post.   Roll Eyes



Good one, Brain, defender of free exchange of ideas - not.

Opposing Islam is not Islamophobia, bozo. It is opposing Islam. You can oppose things, you know, it's not compulsory to embrace all and every ideology, religion, norms and cultural practice.

Signing up for or supporting  terrorist activity here or overseas is, on the other hand, an offence.   You do recognise that there is Muslim terrorism around the world, don't you Brain, and that Australian Muslims are involved?  Don't you, Brain?


Whats wrong, Soren?  Can't you cope when your ideas are turned against you?    Roll Eyes

Personally, I'd prefer you just learnt to reorientate your moral compass to the same heading as the rest of society.  You know, the majority of Australians who support Multiculturalism and don't like people like you religiously persecuting Muslims?    Roll Eyes

How are my ideas turned against me, hysteric little looney?

Islamic lunatics exploiting tolerance and openness to their deadly sharia-compliant ends?
Supporting tolerance does not extend to the support of ideologies that cut your head off on youtube if you go and give them aid coz you are an infidel.




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Reply #17 - Dec 24th, 2014 at 1:03am
 
Soren wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 5:10pm:
Soren wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 4:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 3:54pm:
How about we create a scale of financial penalties for Islamophobia?

Write an internet post, unfairly attacking innocent Muslims?  $1,000.  A second offence?  $2,000 and so on and so on.

Attack a Muslim on the street verbally?  $1,000, a second offence, $2,000 and so on and so on.

Physically attack a Muslim?  $10,000, a second offence, $20,000 plus of course, any gaol time you accrue as well.

Anti-Muslim graphitto?  $1,000.  More Graphitti?  A thousand dollars extra per piece.

Soren, you'd soon be a very bankrupt man, the rate at which you post.   Roll Eyes



Good one, Brain, defender of free exchange of ideas - not.

Opposing Islam is not Islamophobia, bozo. It is opposing Islam. You can oppose things, you know, it's not compulsory to embrace all and every ideology, religion, norms and cultural practice.

Signing up for or supporting  terrorist activity here or overseas is, on the other hand, an offence.   You do recognise that there is Muslim terrorism around the world, don't you Brain, and that Australian Muslims are involved?  Don't you, Brain?


Whats wrong, Soren?  Can't you cope when your ideas are turned against you?    Roll Eyes

Personally, I'd prefer you just learnt to reorientate your moral compass to the same heading as the rest of society.  You know, the majority of Australians who support Multiculturalism and don't like people like you religiously persecuting Muslims?    Roll Eyes

How are my ideas turned against me, hysteric little looney?

Islamic lunatics exploiting tolerance and openness to their deadly sharia-compliant ends?
Supporting tolerance does not extend to the support of ideologies that cut your head off on youtube if you go and give them aid coz you are an infidel.


So, are the majority of Muslims "Islamic lunatics", Soren?

Do Muslims in Australia or anywhere else, deserve to be persecuted for the crimes that someone else, thousands of kilometres away has done?

Of course, as you believe in Guilt by Association and Collective Guilt, your answer will be "yes."   You disgust me, Soren.   You are the problem in our society, not the ordinary, everyday, mainstream Muslims, no matter how much you attempt to make them a problem.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #18 - Dec 24th, 2014 at 9:11am
 

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Two young men have been arrested by police in Sydney as part of an ongoing counter-terrorism operation.

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) said members of the Joint Counter Terrorism Team made the arrests with New South Wales Police as part of Operation Appleby.

A 20-year-old man has been charged with possession of documents designed to facilitate a terrorist attack while a 21-year-old man has been charged with breaching a control order.

Both men will appear in Sydney's Parramatta Local Court today.

Deputy Commissioner Catherine Burn said there will be more police in public places this holiday season.

"We have placed 11 people [since September] before the court, some of these are for serious terrorism offences," she said.

"As we move into Christmas and the New Year that investigation will continue.

"There will be a heightened police presence in public places."

Commissioner Burn said there would a large police presence on New Year's Eve to "ensure safety".

"The reason for our success is because people give us information," she said.

"It's really important when people go about their activities if they see anything suspicious [they let us know]."

Operation Appleby is a joint operation involving NSW Police, AFP and ASIO.

In September, 15 people were detained in counter-terrorism raids across suburbs in Sydney's west and north-west.

Properties were also raided in Brisbane involving a further 70 police officers.

At the time, police said the Sydney raids foiled a plot to "commit violent acts" in Australia, including a plan to behead a member of the public.

Just last Friday, NSW and AFP raided several Sydney homes, including one of the properties targeted during the September raids.

Heightened level of 'terrorist chatter', Abbott says

Prime Minister Tony Abbott yesterday warned of a heightened level of "terrorist chatter" in the aftermath of the Martin Place siege and reminded Australians that the national terrorism alert level remains on "high", which means an attack is "likely".

But the deputy chairman of Parliament's Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, Anthony Byrne, has warned the terror alert level should be raised.

"On the basis of recent events both here in Australia and overseas, and provided information that the Prime Minister spoke about was sound and accurate, there is a strong case to raise the terror threat to extreme as quickly as possible," he told Fairfax media.

Raising the alert level to extreme would mean a "terrorist attack is imminent or has occurred".

But the chairman of Parliament's Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, Dan Tehan, rejected the view of his deputy.

"What the Government needs to do is take the advice of the experts," he said.

"I am absolutely certain that our intelligence agencies and the Australian Federal Police are monitoring this and would advise the Government if it did need to be raised to a higher level."

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has confirmed the latest advice is that the official threat level should remain at high.

"Our security and intelligence agencies have assessed that an attack is likely," she told Channel Seven.

"It's not at the next level 'extreme' which means imminent, in other words, they have details of an attack that is likely to take place and where it will take place. So we're just warning people to be careful, be alert."

In France, up 300 extra soldiers have been put on patrol in public places over the holiday period following three seemingly random attacks in as many days.

Ms Bishop said French authorities are "obviously assessing that situation very carefully."

"But I just want to stress in Australia our law enforcement and intelligence agencies are working very hard to ensure that we are able to disrupt the activities of people who might be planning this kind of activity," she said.

"We're just warning people to be careful, to be alert but of course go about your everyday business and of course over the Christmas break we want people to be relaxed."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-24/two-men-arrested-by-counter-terrorism-team...

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Reply #19 - Dec 24th, 2014 at 11:03am
 
Wonder if these people were classed as islamophobic? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1145774/Horrific-video-shows-Nigeria...

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Reply #20 - Dec 24th, 2014 at 11:04am
 
Adamant wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 11:03am:
Wonder if these people were classed as islamophobic? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1145774/Horrific-video-shows-Nigeria...

What say you Brian? Roll Eyes


brian probably won't comment on it
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Reply #21 - Dec 24th, 2014 at 11:46am
 
I do hope the shi'as of Pakistan are not Islamophobic! Grin

http://defence.pk/threads/dreaded-terrorist-malik-ishaq-released-by-pakistan-gov...

So much for cracking down on fudamentalists.

Do you think that the Shi'as have a good reason to be Islamophobic about Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Brian? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Grin
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Reply #22 - Dec 24th, 2014 at 11:56am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 1:03am:
Soren wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 5:10pm:
Soren wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 4:08pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 3:54pm:
How about we create a scale of financial penalties for Islamophobia?

Write an internet post, unfairly attacking innocent Muslims?  $1,000.  A second offence?  $2,000 and so on and so on.

Attack a Muslim on the street verbally?  $1,000, a second offence, $2,000 and so on and so on.

Physically attack a Muslim?  $10,000, a second offence, $20,000 plus of course, any gaol time you accrue as well.

Anti-Muslim graphitto?  $1,000.  More Graphitti?  A thousand dollars extra per piece.

Soren, you'd soon be a very bankrupt man, the rate at which you post.   Roll Eyes



Good one, Brain, defender of free exchange of ideas - not.

Opposing Islam is not Islamophobia, bozo. It is opposing Islam. You can oppose things, you know, it's not compulsory to embrace all and every ideology, religion, norms and cultural practice.

Signing up for or supporting  terrorist activity here or overseas is, on the other hand, an offence.   You do recognise that there is Muslim terrorism around the world, don't you Brain, and that Australian Muslims are involved?  Don't you, Brain?


Whats wrong, Soren?  Can't you cope when your ideas are turned against you?    Roll Eyes

Personally, I'd prefer you just learnt to reorientate your moral compass to the same heading as the rest of society.  You know, the majority of Australians who support Multiculturalism and don't like people like you religiously persecuting Muslims?    Roll Eyes

How are my ideas turned against me, hysteric little looney?

Islamic lunatics exploiting tolerance and openness to their deadly sharia-compliant ends?
Supporting tolerance does not extend to the support of ideologies that cut your head off on youtube if you go and give them aid coz you are an infidel.


So, are the majority of Muslims "Islamic lunatics", Soren?

Do Muslims in Australia or anywhere else, deserve to be persecuted for the crimes that someone else, thousands of kilometres away has done?

Of course, as you believe in Guilt by Association and Collective Guilt, your answer will be "yes."   You disgust me, Soren.   You are the problem in our society, not the ordinary, everyday, mainstream Muslims, no matter how much you attempt to make them a problem.   Roll Eyes



What is glaringly obvious to all is that insofar as they identify as Muslims, they are connected to ISIL by their shared religion.  Islam is implicated in the Islamic State in a way, say,  the Uniting Church is not. If you choose to be a Muslim, you have a problem in the form of ISIL that you cannot possibly ignore, no matter how hard you try.

No Catholic/Jew would say that he has nuffin' to do wiv the Vatican/Israel. But Muslims keep saying they have nuffin' to do with the Islamic State.  Well, they share a religion that is regarded as a complete way of life. That's not nothing. How does a Religion of Peace incubate - and not for the first time in its history - such bloodthirsty, cruel savagery?
How does a religion of Peace produce such barbaric monsters in the 21st century? Where are the great flowerings of Islam to counter this barbarity in its name? Where is Islam's  life-enhancing influence on the world?
It a sea of quiet, 'nuffin' to wiv' me' types and sizable band of hard-core fundamentalists like the Hizbies, ISIL, Al Qaida, Muslim Brotherhood, the salafis and wahabis. No life-affirming force, no great scientific, artistic, literary energy, no positive energy.  But what do you expect from something called Submission?  You identify with Submission, you are not going to go out and think for yourself.





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Reply #23 - Dec 24th, 2014 at 5:08pm
 
Catholics do not take responsibility for the Paedophilia of their clergy in the same way you demand Muslims take responsibility for what IS does, Soren. 

Jews do not take responsibility for the ethnic cleansing by their fellow Jews in Israel, in the same way you demand Muslims take responsibility for what IS does, Soren.

Your inconsistency is well known.  You only demand Muslims in Australia, many of whom have fled Islamic extremism, take responsibility for what their co-religionists do in Syria and Iraq.

Is that because of your bigotry, Soren?  Your belief in Collective Guilt and Guilt by Association?   Or is it simply because you enjoy persecuting Muslims?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #24 - Dec 24th, 2014 at 6:35pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 11:04am:
Adamant wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 11:03am:
Wonder if these people were classed as islamophobic? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1145774/Horrific-video-shows-Nigeria...

What say you Brian? Roll Eyes


brian probably won't comment on it


You were correct Spint, far too hard for Brians Ssor Brain Grin Grin Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Grin Grin Roll Eyes Roll EyesNext time he post here I'll remind him again, again and again again and again. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #25 - Dec 24th, 2014 at 9:10pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 5:08pm:
Catholics do not take responsibility for the Paedophilia of their clergy in the same way you demand Muslims take responsibility for what IS does, Soren. 

Jews do not take responsibility for the ethnic cleansing of their fellow Jews in Israel, in the same way you demand Muslims take responsibility for what IS does, Soren.

Your inconsistency is well known.  You only demand Muslims in Australia, many of whom have fled Islamic extremism, take responsibility for what their co-religionists do in Syria and Iraq.

Is that because of your bigotry, Soren?  Your belief in Collective Guilt and Guilt by Association?   Or is it simply because you enjoy persecuting Muslims?    Roll Eyes



Muslims make Islam into what it is. It's their religion. If it's f Vcked, it's f Vcked by Muslims.
It is f Vcked.

Please explain.





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Reply #26 - Dec 25th, 2014 at 11:01am
 
Soren wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 9:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 5:08pm:
Catholics do not take responsibility for the Paedophilia of their clergy in the same way you demand Muslims take responsibility for what IS does, Soren. 

Jews do not take responsibility for the ethnic cleansing of their fellow Jews in Israel, in the same way you demand Muslims take responsibility for what IS does, Soren.

Your inconsistency is well known.  You only demand Muslims in Australia, many of whom have fled Islamic extremism, take responsibility for what their co-religionists do in Syria and Iraq.

Is that because of your bigotry, Soren?  Your belief in Collective Guilt and Guilt by Association?   Or is it simply because you enjoy persecuting Muslims?    Roll Eyes



Muslims make Islam into what it is. It's their religion. If it's f Vcked, it's f Vcked by Muslims.
It is f Vcked.

Please explain.


Why are all Muslims responsible for its "f Vcking", Soren?

Surely only the Muslims doing the "f Vcking" are responsible?   Just as only Catholics are responsible for Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox for Easter Orthodoxy and the Protestants for the myriad of different Protestant denominations?

Yet again, you attempt to make people who have taken no part in something somehow responsible for it occurring, no matter how geographically remote from it they are.   Collective Guilt and Guilt by Association, Soren.   Why must it only ever apply to Muslims in your mind?  Bigotry?  Islamophobia?   Hatred?  Intolerance?   Roll Eyes

However, as today is Christmas, I wish you as a believer in Christianity great joy on your most important festive occasion.   May you get what you want and what you deserve.   I hope you'll remember in future the example of your Christ with his love and tolerance for all, not just his followers.   Kiss
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Reply #27 - Dec 26th, 2014 at 3:35pm
 
Adamant wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 6:35pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 11:04am:
Adamant wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 11:03am:
Wonder if these people were classed as islamophobic? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1145774/Horrific-video-shows-Nigeria...

What say you Brian? Roll Eyes


brian probably won't comment on it


You were correct Spint, far too hard for Brians Ssor Brain Grin Grin Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Grin Grin Roll Eyes Roll EyesNext time he post here I'll remind him again, again and again again and again. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Grin Grin Grin Grin



Ready to give an answer yet, brian?
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Reply #29 - Dec 26th, 2014 at 7:27pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 25th, 2014 at 11:01am:
Soren wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 9:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 5:08pm:
Catholics do not take responsibility for the Paedophilia of their clergy in the same way you demand Muslims take responsibility for what IS does, Soren. 

Jews do not take responsibility for the ethnic cleansing of their fellow Jews in Israel, in the same way you demand Muslims take responsibility for what IS does, Soren.

Your inconsistency is well known.  You only demand Muslims in Australia, many of whom have fled Islamic extremism, take responsibility for what their co-religionists do in Syria and Iraq.

Is that because of your bigotry, Soren?  Your belief in Collective Guilt and Guilt by Association?   Or is it simply because you enjoy persecuting Muslims?    Roll Eyes



Muslims make Islam into what it is. It's their religion. If it's f Vcked, it's f Vcked by Muslims.
It is f Vcked.

Please explain.


Why are all Muslims responsible for its "f Vcking", Soren?

Surely only the Muslims doing the "f Vcking" are responsible?   Just as only Catholics are responsible for Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox for Easter Orthodoxy and the Protestants for the myriad of different Protestant denominations?

Yet again, you attempt to make people who have taken no part in something somehow responsible for it occurring, no matter how geographically remote from it they are.   Collective Guilt and Guilt by Association, Soren.   Why must it only ever apply to Muslims in your mind?  Bigotry?  Islamophobia?   Hatred?  Intolerance?   Roll Eyes

However, as today is Christmas, I wish you as a believer in Christianity great joy on your most important festive occasion.   May you get what you want and what you deserve.   I hope you'll remember in future the example of your Christ with his love and tolerance for all, not just his followers.   Kiss

Responsible is not the same as implicated.
As a Sydney Muslim you are not responsible for what Muslim do in Raqqa, but as a Muslim, you are implicated.



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