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Reply #15 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 11:40am

Soren wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 1:10am:

Yes, ISIS is disgusting and it is repressive. It should be condemned for each atrocity it commits.

However, it is not representative of Muslims. Remember, most of the victims of ISIS are Muslims. As we see the usual crowd of Islamophobes parade their bigotry towards Muslims in general, we can see just how ridiculous their views are. Roll Eyes

Its ideology is completely Islamic. That's the central issue.
It has ZERO other ideological influence. Zip. It is 100% Islamic.

That is an inconvenient truth.

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Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves
Reply #16 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 12:11pm

freediver wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 11:24am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

Datalife wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 10:24am:

Has anyone ever said ISIS is representative of all muslims?

Clearly your not too familiar with FD or Baron's posts.

Ask FD, I'm sure he'll be happy to give you a rambling explanation for how all muslims are secretly ISIS at heart, and that all the "nice" law-abiding things we do are merely a means to an end (the end of course to be head-hacking, rapist ISIS prodigy).

Baron will argue that any muslim that is not like ISIS is not a real muslim - in the form of inane rhetorical questions.

There are many things I can say without saying them. Just ask Gandalf. Fortunately we have Brian to constantly correct these unsaid things. It goes without saying.

FD I'm happy to stand corrected - but I have a sneaking suspicion that even if you acknowledged ISIS is not representative of mainstream muslims - it would be more along the lines of "only because they are too gutless, squeamish or more tactful - not that ISIS ideology and and actions doesn't reflect the true beliefs of mainstream muslims". Tell me it aint so.

Otherwise, I would be delighted to hear you say that mainstream muslims are totally abhorred by ISIS beliefs because they believe it completely contradicts true islamic law. Would you say that FD? No, I didn't think so.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49249 At my desk.	Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves Reply #17 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 12:36pm What are ISIS' beliefs Gandalf?
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18574 Gender:	Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves Reply #18 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 12:48pm polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 12:11pm: Otherwise, I would be delighted to hear you say that mainstream muslims are totally abhorred by ISIS beliefs because they believe it completely contradicts true islamic law. So what Islamic laws do Isis have that are considered unislamic?
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Reply #19 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 4:28pm

Does ISIS have an epidemic of underage marriages that are actually defacto couples? Do ISIS libraries have all the books stolen? Does ISIS have a history of terrorism perpetrated by Armenians, the NSW Police and Afghan camel drivers?

Better check the Pew Survey, FD - on Malaysia.

That should sort this out.

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Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves
Reply #20 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 5:15pm

Soren wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 1:10am:

Yes, ISIS is disgusting and it is repressive. It should be condemned for each atrocity it commits.

However, it is not representative of Muslims. Remember, most of the victims of ISIS are Muslims. As we see the usual crowd of Islamophobes parade their bigotry towards Muslims in general, we can see just how ridiculous their views are. Roll Eyes

Its ideology is completely Islamic. That's the central issue.
It has ZERO other ideological influence. Zip. It is 100% Islamic.

It, like the Calvinists, Opus Dei and the Christian Brotherhood to name three extremist Christian groups are completely Christian. There is ZERO other ideological influences. Zip. It is 100% Christian.

Don't here you suggesting they have a problem, despite them being condemned by other Christian groups, Soren.

IS has been condemned by other Islamic groups. Doesn't that count in your mind? Doesn't that indicate that they are non-representational of modern, mainstream Islamic belief? Roll Eyes

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Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves
Reply #21 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 9:04pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 4:28pm:

Does ISIS have an epidemic of underage marriages that are actually defacto couples? Do ISIS libraries have all the books stolen? Does ISIS have a history of terrorism perpetrated by Armenians, the NSW Police and Afghan camel drivers?

Better check the Pew Survey, FD - on Malaysia.

That should sort this out.

Sooo.... the Islamic State is completely Islamic then.

Thank you, Brain.

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Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves
Reply #22 - Dec 24^th, 2014 at 9:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 5:15pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 11:35am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 1:10am:

Yes, ISIS is disgusting and it is repressive. It should be condemned for each atrocity it commits.

However, it is not representative of Muslims. Remember, most of the victims of ISIS are Muslims. As we see the usual crowd of Islamophobes parade their bigotry towards Muslims in general, we can see just how ridiculous their views are. Roll Eyes

Its ideology is completely Islamic. That's the central issue.
It has ZERO other ideological influence. Zip. It is 100% Islamic.

It, like the Calvinists, Opus Dei and the Christian Brotherhood to name three extremist Christian groups are completely Christian. There is ZERO other ideological influences. Zip. It is 100% Christian.

Don't here you suggesting they have a problem, despite them being condemned by other Christian groups, Soren.

IS has been condemned by other Islamic groups. Doesn't that count in your mind? Doesn't that indicate that they are non-representational of modern, mainstream Islamic belief? Roll Eyes

What is unIslamic about the Islamic State?

Please explain.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves Reply #23 - Dec 27^th, 2014 at 8:28am freediver wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 12:36pm: What are ISIS' beliefs Gandalf? Exactly. But continue acting all indignant when I accurately characterise your views.
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Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves
Reply #24 - Dec 27^th, 2014 at 8:55am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 27^th, 2014 at 8:28am:

freediver wrote on Dec 24^th, 2014 at 12:36pm:

What are ISIS' beliefs Gandalf?

Exactly.

But continue acting all indignant when I accurately characterise your views.

Oh well im sure you can do the same for ISIS.

But then again Gandalf ( why call yourself that, why not some arabic name) you are always in RADICAL ISLAMISTS APOLOGY MODE. Grin

So im sure we cant get any straight answer from you.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves Reply #25 - Dec 27^th, 2014 at 9:22am I like Gandalf. Is that straight enough for you?
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Julius Abbott Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 792 Gender:	Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves Reply #26 - Dec 27^th, 2014 at 3:31pm freediver wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2014 at 7:31pm: The Independent is attempting to verify the reports. So the story is not actually true then. The best way to demonise your enemy is to throw out propaganda that they harm women.
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49249 At my desk.	Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves Reply #27 - Dec 27^th, 2014 at 3:34pm Well done bb. We all know the Japanese army treated captured women with nothing but respect, right?
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42195	Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves Reply #28 - Dec 27^th, 2014 at 5:39pm Rather like the propaganda about the Germans and Edith Cavell in Belgium in 1914 or how they supposedly cut the hands off children, FD? How about the myths about the Iraqis and the "humidicribs" in the Kuwaiti hospitals? All nations engage in Propaganda, some worse than others:
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Re: ISIS executes 150 Islamophobic sex slaves
Reply #29 - Dec 27^th, 2014 at 6:24pm

FD is of the opinion that debunking propaganda is supporting the enemy.

Just questioning the idea that ISIS has executed a hundred and fifty "sex slaves" means you support ISIS.

No published evidence, no reliable testimony, just a hyperbolic news story.

Shurely shome mishtake. I guess this makes me a terrorist appeaser.

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