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BEIRUT: The local government in a majority Kurdish area of Syria has passed a decree granting women equal rights in what a monitoring group called "an affront" to discriminatory jihadist moves.

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Kurds who are majority Muslims, appear to be very forward and modernist in their thinking.   However, we are assured by Baronvert that the Kurds are not Muslim and by Moses, Yadda, Soren, Freediver, et al, that there is no modernity movement within Islam.   So obviously this media report must be wrong....   Roll Eyes
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Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS
Reply #1 - Dec 26th, 2014 at 7:29am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
However, we are assured by Baronvert that the Kurds are not Muslim


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Chechen militants in Kobani vow to save Kurds from communism.
www.rferl.org/content/under-black-flag-chechen-militants-saving-urds-communism/2...


Harun Yahya says the PKK and Kurds are commies, the PKK dropped communism and went for secular democracy.

The leader and founder of the PKK Abdullah Ocalan is an atheist,of course Brian tries to pass him off as a muslim.

Saddam's genocidal campaign against the Kurds was called Al Anfal, this name came from chapter 8 in the Quran
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Reply #2 - Dec 28th, 2014 at 10:51am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
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Kurds who are majority Muslims, appear to be very forward and modernist in their thinking.   However, we are assured by Baronvert that the Kurds are not Muslim


The Yazidi are all Kurds, the Yazidi are persecuted by muslims who accuse them of devil worshipping,Brian would like to pass off the Yazidi,christians and atheists who brought human rights to Kurdistan as muslims.
The Kurds are beig attacked by Brian's muslim mates from the Islamic state.

Why are the Kurds refusing entry into Kurdistan for Sunni Iraqis Brian?
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Aid agencies say the Kurdish authorities have tightened entry,particularly for Sunni arabs,since a suicide bombing killed 5 people in Erbil last month,a rare event in that part of Iraq.

A sunni arab medical student from Mosul spoke of fleeing the city this month only to be turned away at a checkpoint controlled by Kurdish Peshmarga forces.

Displaced Christians get some additional assistance from local churches,but their independently administered camps are poorly equipped for winter.
Whatever the church has,they give us-carpets,blankets,heaters,shampoo,said Raja Mati,35,who lives with 11 members of her extended family in a small plastic cabin.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iraq-faces-new-crisis-as-islamic-state-displaces-mi...


The comments part of your link has people calling the kurds murtads.
What is a murtad brian is that a non muslim?

Are you still claiming the leader and founder of the PKK Abdullah Ocalan is a muslim Brian, you should change his wiki page from atheist to muslim. Cool
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Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS
Reply #3 - Dec 28th, 2014 at 2:01pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 10:51am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
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Kurds who are majority Muslims, appear to be very forward and modernist in their thinking.   However, we are assured by Baronvert that the Kurds are not Muslim


The Yazidi are all Kurds, the Yazidi are persecuted by muslims who accuse them of devil worshipping,Brian would like to pass off the Yazidi,christians and atheists who brought human rights to Kurdistan as muslims.
The Kurds are beig attacked by Brian's muslim mates from the Islamic state.


I love it when you're rattled, Baron.  You launch immediately into ad hominem attacks on me.   *SIGH* so foolish and so pointless.

So, its not me who's attempting anything, Baron.  I and HB have merely quoted from numerous online sources what is the estimated proportions of religious followers within the Kurdish population.   You appear unable to acknowledge that you've gotten it wrong.  You appear to have tied yourself personally to your foolish and obviously ignorant belief that the majority of Kurds are not religious at all, let alone not-Muslims.  Your personal attacks are so childish.    Roll Eyes

You base your claims on circumstantial evidence, Baron.  When you find an authoritative one, which states the proportions of religions within the Kurdish population, spread across Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran, get back to us.  Otherwise all you're doing is repeating rumours and hearsay, nothing more.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS
Reply #4 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:38am
 
Turkey is bombing the Kurds,Erdogan says there is no difference between the Islamic state and the PKK.

The Kurds are being raped and enslaved by muslims in the Islamic state,they are the most effective group fighting the Islamic state, they have been making good ground against the Islamic state so Turkey is attacking them with F16's

Is the evidence Turkey has been helping the Islamic state undeniable?
businessinsider.com.au/links-between-turkey-and-isis-are-now-undeniable-2015-7

Turkey does not allow the Turkish kurds to speak or teach their Kurdish language,Turkey does not allow Kurds to give their children Kurdish names.

The Kurds have equal rights for women which is unheard of in the middle east,Erdgan said women will never be equal to men which is something muslims claim.
bbc.com/news/world-europe-30183711

Turkey is attacking Kurds in Syria and Iraq,Turkey has been funding groups opposed to Assad,Turkey still occupies Cyprus.

Gandalf what are your thoughts on Turkey attacking the Kurds who are the only effective group fighting the Islamic state?
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Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS
Reply #5 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:47am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:38am:
Turkey is bombing the Kurds,Erdogan says there is no difference between the Islamic state and the PKK.


Except the PKK are or rather were, almost exclusively Communist and IS is exclusionarily Sunni Islamist in their outlooks.   The reality is that the Turks have decided that the peace between the PKK and them was hurting them, just as was the build up of the Kurds in general, so they have decided to strike at them.

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Turkey does not allow the Turkish kurds to speak or teach their Kurdish language,Turkey does not allow Kurds to give their children Kurdish names.


Wrong.  The Turks have relaxed their rulings on both the Kurdish language and names for about the last 10 years Baron.

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Between 1983 and 1991, it was forbidden to publicize, publish and/or broadcast in any language other than Turkish, unless that language was the first official language of a country that Turkey has diplomatic relations with.[11] Though this ban technically applied to any language, it had the largest effect on the Kurdish language, which is not the first official language of any country, despite being widely spoken in the Kurdistan region.[12]

In June 2004, Turkey's public television TRT began broadcasting a half-hour Kurdish program,[13] and on March 8, 2006, the Radio and Television Supreme Council (RTÜK) allowed two TV channels (Gün TV and Söz TV) and one radio channel (Medya FM) to have limited service in the Kurdish language. This legislation came into force as an effort to meet one of the European Union’s requirements for membership in its talks with Turkey. The new regulation will allot five hours of weekly radio broadcast and four of television.[14]

Despite these reforms, use of Kurdish in the public sphere and government institutions was still restricted until several years ago. On June 14, 2007, the Interior Ministry took a decision to remove Abdullah Demirbaş from his office as elected mayor of the Sur district of Diyarbakır. They also removed elected members of the municipal council. The high court endorsed the decision of the ministry and ruled that "giving information on various municipal services such as culture, art, environment, city cleaning and health in languages other than Turkish is against the Constitution.[15]

This is despite the fact that according to the above-mentioned municipality, 72% of the people of the district use Kurdish in their daily lives. In another case, the mayor of Diyarbakır, Osman Baydemir, is being subjected to a similar set of interrogations and judicial processes. His case is related to the use of the Kurdish phrase Sersala We Pîroz Be (Happy New Year) in the new year celebration cards issued by the municipality. The prosecutor wrote: "It was determined that the suspect used a Kurdish sentence in the celebration card, ‘Sersala We Piroz Be’ (Happy New Year). I, on behalf of the public, demand that he be punished under Article 222/1 of the Turkish Penal Code".[15]

At present these issues have been solved since quite a long time; the official website of the Municipality today is trilingual: Turkish, Kurdish and English.[16]

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_of_Kurdish_people_in_Turkey#Cultural_expression]

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The Kurds have equal rights for women which is unheard of in the middle east,Erdgan said women will never be equal to men which is something muslims claim.
bbc.com/news/world-europe-30183711


Except women have equal rights in Turkey Baron.   Erdgan is an Islamist.   He is seeking to reverse that.

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Turkey is attacking Kurds in Syria and Iraq,Turkey has been funding groups opposed to Assad,Turkey still occupies Cyprus.


North Cyprus...

Looks to me like you need to catch up with the real world Baron.   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

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Re: an affront to laws being passed by IS
Reply #6 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 11:59am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 2:01pm:
I love it when you're rattled, Baron.


I don't. He just gets even more annoying.

The number of idiotic rhetorical questions increases proportionally to Baron's rate of 'rattledness'
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Reply #7 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:57pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
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BEIRUT: The local government in a majority Kurdish area of Syria has passed a decree granting women equal rights in what a monitoring group called "an affront" to discriminatory jihadist moves.

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Kurds who are majority Muslims, appear to be very forward and modernist in their thinking.   However, we are assured by Baronvert that the Kurds are not Muslim and by Moses, Yadda, Soren, Freediver, et al, that there is no modernity movement within Islam.   So obviously this media report must be wrong....   Roll Eyes


You are completely missing the point. These decrees are un-Islamic. There is no way you can get around it. Islam is not a region or a race it is the belief in the Koran and that Mohamed was the messenger of God. Don’t try going all relativist on us. Islam is evil and that is why these decrees have been made.
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Reply #8 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:06pm
 
Islam can be evil, if interpreted in a particular way, Issuevoter.  Just as Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, you name it.   It can also be quite good.  It all depends on what the believers believe and how they act, Issuevoter.   That you characterise an entire religion of 1.6 billion believers as "evil" shows that you're thinking in stereotypical ideas, rather than reality.   Indonesia, some 300 million Muslims (approximately) is very different to the Muslims of Saudi Arabia.   The Indonesians tolerate and accept other religious beliefs within their society and allow them to practice their religions freely, unlike Saudi Arabia at the other extreme which won't allow churches, worship or any other temple within their borders.    I really think you need to look out at the reality of the world, rather than read the stereotypes that the MSM present to you or even what the web claims about Islamic beliefs and practices.  In reality, Islam is diverse in it's beliefs and practices.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:11pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
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BEIRUT: The local government in a majority Kurdish area of Syria has passed a decree granting women equal rights in what a monitoring group called "an affront" to discriminatory jihadist moves.

[Source]

Kurds who are majority Muslims, appear to be very forward and modernist in their thinking.   However, we are assured by Baronvert that the Kurds are not Muslim and by Moses, Yadda, Soren, Freediver, et al, that there is no modernity movement within Islam.   So obviously this media report must be wrong....   Roll Eyes


You are completely missing the point. These decrees are un-Islamic. There is no way you can get around it. Islam is not a region or a race it is the belief in the Koran and that Mohamed was the messenger of God. Don’t try going all relativist on us. Islam is evil and that is why these decrees have been made.



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where does it say in the Koran woman have equal rights ?
did moh exhibit that while shagging his many sex slaves or handing them out like candy ?
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Reply #10 - Aug 1st, 2015 at 1:15am
 
You don’t post on the Islam board, Sprint.

This town’s not big enough for you and the death cult.
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Reply #11 - Aug 1st, 2015 at 12:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:06pm:
Islam can be evil, if interpreted in a particular way, Issuevoter.  Just as Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, you name it.   It can also be quite good.  It all depends on what the believers believe and how they act, Issuevoter.   That you characterise an entire religion of 1.6 billion believers as "evil" shows that you're thinking in stereotypical ideas, rather than reality.   Indonesia, some 300 million Muslims (approximately) is very different to the Muslims of Saudi Arabia.   The Indonesians tolerate and accept other religious beliefs within their society and allow them to practice their religions freely, unlike Saudi Arabia at the other extreme which won't allow churches, worship or any other temple within their borders.    I really think you need to look out at the reality of the world, rather than read the stereotypes that the MSM present to you or even what the web claims about Islamic beliefs and practices.  In reality, Islam is diverse in it's beliefs and practices.   Roll Eyes


That's Relativism. It is useless. The point here is that these decrees are a rejection of Islam, not a modification of it.
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Reply #12 - Aug 1st, 2015 at 2:19pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Aug 1st, 2015 at 12:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 31st, 2015 at 10:06pm:
Islam can be evil, if interpreted in a particular way, Issuevoter.  Just as Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, you name it.   It can also be quite good.  It all depends on what the believers believe and how they act, Issuevoter.   That you characterise an entire religion of 1.6 billion believers as "evil" shows that you're thinking in stereotypical ideas, rather than reality.   Indonesia, some 300 million Muslims (approximately) is very different to the Muslims of Saudi Arabia.   The Indonesians tolerate and accept other religious beliefs within their society and allow them to practice their religions freely, unlike Saudi Arabia at the other extreme which won't allow churches, worship or any other temple within their borders.    I really think you need to look out at the reality of the world, rather than read the stereotypes that the MSM present to you or even what the web claims about Islamic beliefs and practices.  In reality, Islam is diverse in it's beliefs and practices.   Roll Eyes


That's Relativism. It is useless. The point here is that these decrees are a rejection of Islam, not a modification of it.


Really?  Have you asked the issuers of the decrees what they believe they are doing?  Have they all left Islam en masse or are they just actually believe they're working within Islam?   Get back to us when you have the answers please!   Roll Eyes
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Reply #13 - Aug 1st, 2015 at 10:44pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 26th, 2014 at 12:35am:
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BEIRUT: The local government in a majority Kurdish area of Syria has passed a decree granting women equal rights in what a monitoring group called "an affront" to discriminatory jihadist moves.

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Kurds who are majority Muslims, appear to be very forward and modernist in their thinking.   However, we are assured by Baronvert that the Kurds are not Muslim and by Moses, Yadda, Soren, Freediver, et al, that there is no modernity movement within Islam.   So obviously this media report must be wrong....   Roll Eyes

These are developments DESPITE Islam, Brain. Everyone knows that even you, no matter how you pretend otherwise.

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Reply #14 - Aug 1st, 2015 at 11:00pm
 
Brian is doing his "Islam is an unfathomable mystery" trick again. How are we to figure out what Islam really is when there are 1.6 billion different versions of it, and no book to guide us.....

I am surprised Brian can bring himself to say anything about Islam at all without first getting the approval of all 1.6 billion of them.
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