Brian Ross wrote on Dec 28
th, 2014 at 7:13pm:
Soren wrote on Dec 28
th, 2014 at 7:01pm:
Islam is persecuting others. Now. Why is it doing this if it a religion of peace? Why is it doing it now, plotting against Western countries as well as other Muslim countries, and especially Christians and other minorities in Muslim countries.
If you want to talk about the Thirty Year War, let's. But not INSTEAD of talking about what Islam is doing here, now and across the globe.
The Boxer Rebellion or the Irish Troubles or whatever other irrelevancy you want to throw in the mix are not excuses for Islam and Muslim behaviour and doctrines now.
Who's made excuses for anybody, Soren, except yourself?
I have attempted always to place what is happening into a much wider context. A context which you seem to want hidden for some reason. Why?
Islamic extremists are nasty, horrible people who often commit horrible atrocities against innocents who don't deserve to suffer and die in such ways. I provide no excuses for their actions and condemn them as I always have.
However, those events do not occur in isolation, no matter how much and how often you attempt to claim them as either unique or unusual. They do not occur in a vacuum. They are more often than not in reaction to events which have occurred elsewhere and because of distorted beliefs in their religion which are not shared by the overwhelming majority of other Muslims. Indeed, they are condemned by them, time after time but you refuse to accept or acknowledge those condemnations because of your bigotry against all Muslims, Soren.
You and your fellow Islamophobes are part of the problem. Your obvious desire to persecute Muslims for their religious beliefs aren't going to solve it, you'll just fuel it. That your hatred is so deep and intense that you refuse to see that means this conflict won't end today, nor tomorrow, nor next week or even next year. It will drag on for decades, as you pour petrol on the fire and turn it happily into a conflagration that we will all be lucky to emerge from unscathed.
Your sort prefers that the world should burn, rather than take one step back and compromise your views. You are the mirror image of the Salafist Islamists that you claim you oppose.
Bollocks, my little Islamic fascist excuser. ISIL is happening not in a wider context but to particular people who are your contemporaries, and the atrocities are perpetrated by people who may have lived next door to you. What has motivated them to move from your neighbourhood to the killing fields of Iraq and Syria is Islam. Nothing else.
And they reach back to the Koran and Mohammed's example for sustenance in their barbarity. They attack policemen here, they take hostages, they plot attacks. They behead soldiers in London, attack and kill soldiers in Canada, blow up other Muslims and and kill and rape Christians because of their Islamic beliefs.
Islamic terrorism is motivated by Islam. If you also believe in Islam, you are implicated, you are tainted. Saying 'it has nuffin' to do wiv me' is not acceptable, Brain.
You simply muddy the waters, Brain. The Islamic State is Islamic and shares many of the doctrines and convictions of the vast majority of Muslims. It is entirely consistent with the Koran and the example set by Mohammed and the historical practice of Muslims in control. i
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