I look at ALL the evidence at hand and draw on history rather than blindly follow just one avenue of media, if by doing that I conclude that America is at fault.......so be it.

You must have missed the posts where I have said I'm NOT a Putin fan, but I will certainly stick up for anyone or any nation that looks like it's being set up by western powers.

I've also said I'm not a fan of bikies, but again, I will bat for any group that is being singled out and persecuted because next they will come for you and I, no?

As for the west, well! they've had their hour in the sun, it's time for change, as we are now seeing. I don't really care if the west falls, it's their own fault for continuing with their colonialism and greed , they've had it coming.

cods wrote on Dec 29^th, 2014 at 9:13am:



That's all well and dandy.........but it aint politics.

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 29^th, 2014 at 1:42pm:




only 250..... where di you get that number from???...not space surely...

yes you and pansi make a great couple...living in the land of the free..

yet blaming it for everything...

not bad..

I think even satan would be saying a big fat NO to you Mr light.

cods wrote on Dec 29^th, 2014 at 2:46pm:



The US have effectively bombed one third of the world's population since WWII, but you don't want to know that, do you cods?

But....but they're white people just like us, surely they wouldn't.

Blinkers on tight, eyes wide shut.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 29^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:



really if it turns me into a Australian hating person then sure as hell I dont want to understand; thanks pan si.

I love what I have got I have through work and nothing else....no hand outs not a thing from any govt.... and guess what we never whinged either...

not like this lot today and yourself... all you guys do is whinge... yep some things need to be stopped.. like massive spending on the back of borrowing..

perhaps thats how you have lead you life I dont know.. but we went without to get what we wanted we saved for it...we didnt rob Peter to pay Paul like they do today with multi credit cards... hideous...and then blame the govt of the day...

and thats how I prefer our govt to work.. pay your BILLS...unless you want China to rule the roost...Russia is now going backwards....it comes to all of them that think the good life will go on forever...

your new world order sounds painful full of hatred and bitterness no thanks  its all yours....my friend..

I love this country and what its given me....if taking  a step back helps it get back on its feet... then I can do that...I owe this country that much...

you would rather see us sink into the sinkhole  of despair....just to pay back ABbott for winning an election...

not me....

http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html

FROM WOUNDED KNEE TO SYRIA:

A CENTURY OF U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTIONS

by Dr. Zoltan Grossman

The following is a partial list of U.S. military interventions from 1890 to 2014.

Below the list is a Briefing on the History of U.S. Military Interventions.

The list and briefing are also available as a powerpoint presentation.

This guide does not include:

mobilizations of the National Guard
offshore shows of naval strength
reinforcements of embassy personnel
the use of non-Defense Department personnel (such as the Drug Enforcement Administration)
military exercises
non-combat mobilizations (such as replacing postal strikers)
the permanent stationing of armed forces
covert actions where the U.S. did not play a command and control role
the use of small hostage rescue units
most uses of proxy troops
U.S. piloting of foreign warplanes
foreign or domestic disaster assistance
military training and advisory programs not involving direct combat
civic action programs
and many other military activities.
    Among sources used, beside news reports, are the Congressional Record (23 June 1969), 180 Landings by the U.S. Marine Corp History Division, Ege & Makhijani in Counterspy (July-Aug, 1982), "Instances of Use of United States Forces Abroad, 1798-1993" by Ellen C. Collier of the Library of Congress Congressional Research Service, and Ellsberg in Protest & Survive.

Versions of this list have been published on Zmag.org, Neravt.com, and numerous other websites.

Translations of list: Spanish French Turkish Italian Chinese Greek Russian Czech Tamil Portuguese

Quotes in Christian Science Monitor and The Independent

Turkish newspaper urges that the United States be listed in Guinness Book of World Records as the Country with the Most Foreign Interventions.

COUNTRY OR STATE      Dates of intervention      Forces      Comments

read on .. you are forgiven dear cods

namaste

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Most American's would have no idea of the carnage caused by the US military complex since WWII.

The US war machine in full swing. If only they'd listed to Eisenhower.

Who are the losers?

The ordinary men and women that lose their lives for no other reason than to prop up the war industry.
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In January 1961, US President Dwight D Eisenhower used his farewell address to warn the nation of what he viewed as one of its greatest threats: the military-industrial complex composed of military contractors and lobbyists perpetuating war.


Investment in homeland security companies is expected to yield a 12 percent annual growth through 2013 - an astronomical return when compared to other parts of the tanking economy.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/01/big-money-behind-war-military-i...

cods wrote on Dec 29^th, 2014 at 4:29pm:


One small conflict with Georgia, but that was also due to American intervention.

The people of Crimea voted to stay with Russia, that was not a takeover.

That huge list of countries bombed by America and you still can't see that they're in the wrong. I give up.