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Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension
Reply #135 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:26am:

Dear Longy,
I hope you have to work till you drop -

that's what Tony - your leader - wants.

work till you drop

average life expectancy is 83. current pension age is 65 soon to be 67. I don't see a problem here. neither do other people who routinely work to and past 70 because they are fit, healthy and capable of contributing. Perhaps the problem is that none of you people have jobs worthwhile doing.

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #136 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:47pm Not necessarily, many people that should be on the disability pension, cant get on it.
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Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension
Reply #137 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:49pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:26am:

Dear Longy,
I hope you have to work till you drop -

that's what Tony - your leader - wants.

work till you drop

average life expectancy is 83. current pension age is 65 soon to be 67. I don't see a problem here. neither do other people who routinely work to and past 70 because they are fit, healthy and capable of contributing. Perhaps the problem is that none of you people have jobs worthwhile doing.

No Longy - I'm going to work till I drop.

I have super but it will run out too soon - the way I spend money.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106967 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #138 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:50pm Quote: Not necessarily, many people that should be on the disability pension, cant get on it. Shame on Tony Abbott - shame!
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Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension
Reply #139 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:57pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:42pm:

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Paul Midson has worked for about 20 years as a builder's labourer. The 48-year-old has ''crook'' knees and shoulders. He has had operations on his knees. He works at least 60 hours a week, often longer. Sad

''I reckon I will be lucky to last [in work] to 60,'' he says. Midson is fortunate. He has been employed by the same construction firm for the past 15 years in an industry where much of the work is casual and short-term. He has some superannuation but far from enough to fund a comfortable retirement.

He is relying on the age pension and is opposed to the pension age rising further. Wink

If Paul Midson has 'crook' knees and shoulders that prevent him from working then wouldn't he qualify for the Disability Support Pension (DSP). Huh

he has 20 years to change jobs that is less physically demanding - like others do. just because he finished school at 12 is the problem.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #140 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:58pm Quote: Not necessarily, many people that should be on the disability pension, cant get on it. you could always try getting a job. It will be your first.
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Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension
Reply #141 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:01pm

Kat wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:47am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:39am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:36am:

This house hoarding mentality in this country is fast turning Australia into another Greece

So is the welfare state mentality

You only get $240 a week on the dole &
you've got to apply for 40 non-existent jobs a month &
meet 1001 other conditions.

That is no gravy train.

Pointless trying to explain it to him.

He's thicker than a railway sleeper where welfare is concerned.

Thinks it's all a commie plot.

I've been on the 'jam roll' Kat. A couple of times actually. Welfare, like anything, has to have a sustainable funding base. I am mearly pointing out that that sustainable base is deteriorating due to our population demographic.

I posted earlier or in another thread that I don't agree the way Abbott and Hockey have gone about it which is basically like a bull at a gate. Sad

The basic bottom line is that lots of extra revenue is required as well as trimming the wsste or the fraudsters.

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #142 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm You are a liar longweekend. I have had lots of different jobs.
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Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension
Reply #143 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:01pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:47am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:39am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:36am:

This house hoarding mentality in this country is fast turning Australia into another Greece

So is the welfare state mentality

You only get $240 a week on the dole &
you've got to apply for 40 non-existent jobs a month &
meet 1001 other conditions.

That is no gravy train.

Pointless trying to explain it to him.

He's thicker than a railway sleeper where welfare is concerned.

Thinks it's all a commie plot.

I've been on the 'jam roll' Kat. A couple of times actually. Welfare, like anything, has to have a sustainable funding base. I am mearly pointing out that that sustainable base is deteriorating due to our population demographic.

I posted earlier or in another thread that I don't agree the way Abbott and Hockey have gone about it which is basically like a bull at a gate. Sad

The basic bottom line is that lots of extra revenue is required as well as trimming the wsste or the fraudsters.

I can guarantee that the lefty-losers will either not remember your highlighted statement or remember nothing else but.

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Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension
Reply #144 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:08pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:01pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:47am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:39am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:36am:

This house hoarding mentality in this country is fast turning Australia into another Greece

So is the welfare state mentality

You only get $240 a week on the dole &
you've got to apply for 40 non-existent jobs a month &
meet 1001 other conditions.

That is no gravy train.

Pointless trying to explain it to him.

He's thicker than a railway sleeper where welfare is concerned.

Thinks it's all a commie plot.

I've been on the 'jam roll' Kat. A couple of times actually. Welfare, like anything, has to have a sustainable funding base. I am mearly pointing out that that sustainable base is deteriorating due to our population demographic.

I posted earlier or in another thread that I don't agree the way Abbott and Hockey have gone about it which is basically like a bull at a gate. Sad

The basic bottom line is that lots of extra revenue is required as well as trimming the wsste or the fraudsters.

WTF is going on here?

I am more or less agreeing with Swaggie!

Grin

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Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension
Reply #145 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:08pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:01pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:47am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:39am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:36am:

This house hoarding mentality in this country is fast turning Australia into another Greece

So is the welfare state mentality

You only get $240 a week on the dole &
you've got to apply for 40 non-existent jobs a month &
meet 1001 other conditions.

That is no gravy train.

Pointless trying to explain it to him.

He's thicker than a railway sleeper where welfare is concerned.

Thinks it's all a commie plot.

I've been on the 'jam roll' Kat. A couple of times actually. Welfare, like anything, has to have a sustainable funding base. I am mearly pointing out that that sustainable base is deteriorating due to our population demographic.

I posted earlier or in another thread that I don't agree the way Abbott and Hockey have gone about it which is basically like a bull at a gate. Sad

The basic bottom line is that lots of extra revenue is required as well as trimming the wsste or the fraudsters.

I've never been on the dole.
I applied for the dole once & never got a cent.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106967 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #147 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:09pm Quote: You are a liar longweekend. I have had lots of different jobs. Yes sir Crook, I can confirm that sir Crook was a hard working man for most of his life. Of course Longy will never apologise to you. forgive him namaste
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21718 ACT Gender:	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #148 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:10pm Never been on the dole in my life, 70 in a couple of weeks Still work a day or two a month!
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Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension
Reply #149 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 3:13pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 2:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 11:26am:

Dear Longy,
I hope you have to work till you drop -

that's what Tony - your leader - wants.

work till you drop

average life expectancy is 83. current pension age is 65 soon to be 67. I don't see a problem here. neither do other people who routinely work to and past 70 because they are fit, healthy and capable of contributing. Perhaps the problem is that none of you people have jobs worthwhile doing.

neither do other people who routinely work to and past 70 because they are fit, healthy and capable of contributing.

No problem with that and the current position caters for them, the problem is for those who can not work till they are 70, many struggle to get to 65 or are forced out of employment - made redundant in their late 50's or beyond.

Believe it or not there is no employment market for the great majority of people in their 60's + in fact it is close to impossible for many once past the mid 50's.

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