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Reply #45 - Dec 31^st, 2014 at 11:17pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 31^st, 2014 at 11:02pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 31^st, 2014 at 10:46pm:

Capitalism, in it's greed, is killing it's host. It seems a very human thing to do, the Earth, or the habitability of Earth, is another example

Capitalism epitomises nature and evolution. Those that adapt best, survive. Mother Nature is a capitalist. Cheesy

No one of us will survive if we don't, like we have for millions of generations, stand by each other as a unit. We will live together or die together.

Edit: I have to question this "Capitalism epitomises nature and evolution" because nature shows us that the higher beings rise on the tree the more social they become. Socialism is the driving force of nature in that case and evolution just a means. Nests if bees, packs of wolves, prides of lions, ants, were do we stop? Where does that leave you? Successful species co-operate and are social for each others benefit.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #46 - Dec 31^st, 2014 at 11:32pm Funny how you socialists prefer living off the fruits of capitalism to sharing the boiled cabbage with the comrades...and then spend your ample leisure time denigrating it on the capitalist inspired internet...
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Reply #47 - Dec 31^st, 2014 at 11:42pm

Swagman wrote on Dec 31^st, 2014 at 11:32pm:

Funny how you socialists prefer living off the fruits of capitalism to sharing the boiled cabbage with the comrades...and then spend your ample leisure time denigrating it on the capitalist inspired internet... Grin

You can not see where this ideology ends? One day, I hope you don't need help.

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Reply #48 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 12:08am

Setanta wrote on Dec 31^st, 2014 at 11:42pm:

Swagman wrote on Dec 31^st, 2014 at 11:32pm:

Funny how you socialists prefer living off the fruits of capitalism to sharing the boiled cabbage with the comrades...and then spend your ample leisure time denigrating it on the capitalist inspired internet... Grin

You can not see where this ideology ends? One day, I hope you don't need help.

And you are blind to what it provides. The helpers could not help you or I or anyone without it. Huh

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Reply #49 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 11:49am

Hard times???

Look at my inlaws in North Queensland.

Cash stashed all over the house!! Even my wife's lacrosse trophy she won as an 11 year old had a couple of grand hidden inside.

Theyve taken to calling their laundry cupboard "the bank" lol

I wouldnt buy some of the sob stories you hear of hardship. Things aint always what they seem!!

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #50 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 12:00pm The Abbott government is to further increase the qualifying age for the age pension to 70 by July 1, 2035. The increase will be phased-in. Expecting people to work until they are 70 years old, is a ridiculous idea. Hopefully the good people in the senate, will stop this crazy idea.
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aussie100percent Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 565 Gender:	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #51 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 12:09pm Quote: The Abbott government is to further increase the qualifying age for the age pension to 70 by July 1, 2035. The increase will be phased-in. Expecting people to work until they are 70 years old, is a ridiculous idea. Hopefully the good people in the senate, will stop this crazy idea. 2035
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #52 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 12:11pm Yes 2035, so still doesnt make it right.
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #53 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 12:17pm Here is something else to think about. How about leaving the aged pension at 65. Oh no, cant do that.
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Reply #54 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 12:35pm

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The Abbott government is to further increase the qualifying age for the age pension to 70 by July 1, 2035. The increase will be phased-in. Expecting people to work until they are 70 years old, is a ridiculous idea. Hopefully the good people in the senate, will stop this crazy idea. Sad

This why Crook, easily explained in pictures for you and your comrades. Cheesy

BTW a little exercise for you.....do the maths (use a calculator if need be) and tell us what year it will be in 20 years.........?

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Reply #55 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 12:39pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 1^st, 2015 at 11:49am:

Hard times???

Look at my inlaws in North Queensland.

Cash stashed all over the house!! Even my wife's lacrosse trophy she won as an 11 year old had a couple of grand hidden inside.

Theyve taken to calling their laundry cupboard "the bank" lol

I wouldnt buy some of the sob stories you hear of hardship. Things aint always what they seem!!

these are the same people that are crying out for their govt. rebates and subsidies right?

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Reply #56 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 12:47pm

I don't need a calculator to work it out. Once again though, that still doesn't make it right. Here is something to think about. Like the GP Co - payment, you think so much of. It starts at $7 then what. Does it go to $17?. Then further down the track $27. Is that how it goes?. Now back to the pension age. It goes to 70 in 2035. Bring in in, then what happens. Does someone somewhere along the line, change it to 2030?. Then again, how about 2025?. Sad

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Reply #57 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 1:29pm

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I don't need a calculator to work it out. Once again though, that still doesn't make it right. Here is something to think about. Like the GP Co - payment, you think so much of. It starts at $7 then what. Does it go to $17?. Then further down the track $27. Is that how it goes?.

Yes that is exactly what has to happen Crook. Costs are compounding whilst revenues are declining. You want increased wages, penalty rates, increased benefits every year and no way to pay or don't want to pay.

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Now back to the pension age. It goes to 70 in 2035. Bring in in, then what happens. Does someone somewhere along the line, change it to 2030?. Then again, how about 2025

The qualification age will either go up or the pension amount will drop or disappear altogether.

Lefties anti business and big welfare policies will send the place broke.

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension Reply #58 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 1:36pm And there are some that wonder why people join unions. Go Figure.
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Re: Waiting Longer For The Aged Pension
Reply #59 - Jan 1^st, 2015 at 1:48pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 1^st, 2015 at 1:29pm:

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I don't need a calculator to work it out. Once again though, that still doesn't make it right. Here is something to think about. Like the GP Co - payment, you think so much of. It starts at $7 then what. Does it go to $17?. Then further down the track $27. Is that how it goes?.

Yes that is exactly what has to happen Crook. Costs are compounding whilst revenues are declining. You want increased wages, penalty rates, increased benefits every year and no way to pay or don't want to pay.

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Now back to the pension age. It goes to 70 in 2035. Bring in in, then what happens. Does someone somewhere along the line, change it to 2030?. Then again, how about 2025

The qualification age will either go up or the pension amount will drop or disappear altogether.

Lefties anti business and big welfare policies will send the place broke.

Or we cut out the real BIG welfare: super rorts only the super rich can use, negative gearing, Apple, Google etc not paying company tax here, asset millionaires on the Old Age Pension and the like. That is where the BIG money us wasted.

I guess Swag is one of those who need to look down on others that are doing it tough.

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