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Reply #45 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 9:47am
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 10:36pm:
We can’t criticize Iraq - that would be unfair to those who died for its Freeeeedom.


You should have seen FD's hysterics when I dared suggested our beloved ANZACs weren't fighting for freedom or democracy when we invaded Turkey.
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Reply #46 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 9:59am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 9:47am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 10:36pm:
We can’t criticize Iraq - that would be unfair to those who died for its Freeeeedom.


You should have seen FD's hysterics when I dared suggested our beloved ANZACs weren't fighting for freedom or democracy when we invaded Turkey.
The ANZACS attacked Turkey because the British High Command wanted to have control of the Dardanelle Strait. When in control of the forts along the shore you can sail right up into Russia. The reason they wanted to do this is to create a second front with Russia to attack Germany from 2 sides. That's the reason for Galipoli. Not to invade and control Turkey itself.
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Reply #47 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:07am
 
Exactly - for freedom and democracy.
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Reply #48 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:09am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:07am:
Exactly - for freedom and democracy.
To beat Germany. Considering Germany was stealing people countries it was in a way. Turkey was stealing peoples countries too.
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Reply #49 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:13am
 
Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:09am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:07am:
Exactly - for freedom and democracy.
To beat Germany. Considering Germany was stealing people countries it was in a way. Turkey was stealing peoples countries too.


Indeed - I mean its not like Britain and France didn't control half the world at that time with an iron fist. No way, Germany was the bad guy.
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Reply #50 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:17am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:13am:
Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:09am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:07am:
Exactly - for freedom and democracy.
To beat Germany. Considering Germany was stealing people countries it was in a way. Turkey was stealing peoples countries too.


Indeed - I mean its not like Britain and France didn't control half the world at that time with an iron fist. No way, Germany was the bad guy.
Of course it was about maintaining empire. Turkey ran the middle east. They were trying to maintain theirs. Germany were trying to expand theirs. They are all as bad as one another.
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Reply #51 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:22am
 
Good grief - everyone as bad as each other?

FD won't have a bar of that. You better wash your mouth out Rock.
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Reply #52 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:27am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:22am:
Good grief - everyone as bad as each other?

FD won't have a bar of that. You better wash your mouth out Rock.
I hate empires. It's the castle  for  rich, ambitious  greedy pigs who whip up young men into a frenzy to maintain their interests. I can understand them fighting Germany though. They weren't as bad as ISIS but if you aren't German then your crap.
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Reply #53 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 5:06pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:22am:
Good grief - everyone as bad as each other?

FD won't have a bar of that. You better wash your mouth out Rock.


What Rock meant to say is that everyone’s as bad as each other unless they do it in.the name of Freeeedom.

It’s okay then.
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Reply #54 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 5:59pm
 
The allies had every right to invade Turkey.

Turkey shelled Russian ports under the guise of a neutral flag, this caused the allies to declare war on the muslims who had broken their treaty in true islamic fashion.

Prior to turkey officially entering the first world war


August 1914 two German warships the Goeben and the Breslau were officially offered to (and accepted by) the Turks, both ships then flew the Turkish flag. They were given Turkish names. The ships were renamed Midilli and Yavûz Sultân Selîm, respectively. (the Goeben officially became the Yavuz Sultan Selim) After raising the Turkish flag they formally became a part of the Turkish navy.

On the 28-29th of September the German warships under the Turkish flag shelled Odessa, Sebastopol and Novorossiisk. The Russian ports and navigation incurred a serious damage.

On the 30th of October the ambassadors of Russia, Great Britain and France in Constantinopol handed a 12-hour ultimatum over to the Turkish government demanding to open the straights and stop naval raids. The ultimatum stayed unanswered – the next day Turkey entered the war on the side of Germany and Austria-Hungary.

So there we have it muslims doing what muslims do best, slaughtering people under the guise of a neutral flag, breaking their truce as a supposed neutral country,
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Reply #55 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 6:38pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 9:47am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 10:36pm:
We can’t criticize Iraq - that would be unfair to those who died for its Freeeeedom.


You should have seen FD's hysterics when I dared suggested our beloved ANZACs weren't fighting for freedom or democracy when we invaded Turkey.


Gandalf are you upset that we forced Turkey to divert critical resources away from the genocide of the Armenians?
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Reply #56 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 7:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 6:38pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 9:47am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 10:36pm:
We can’t criticize Iraq - that would be unfair to those who died for its Freeeeedom.


You should have seen FD's hysterics when I dared suggested our beloved ANZACs weren't fighting for freedom or democracy when we invaded Turkey.


Gandalf are you upset that we forced Turkey to divert critical resources away from the genocide of the Armenians?


I’ll bet he is, FD.

That’s just the sort of self-sacrificing, Freeeedom-loving people we Australians are. We allowed ourselves to be slaughtered in Gallipoli to divert critical resources away from the genocide of the Armenians.

Lest we forget, eh?
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Reply #57 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 7:43pm
 
Grin that certainly is a new and interesting spin on our little expedition!
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Reply #58 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 7:47pm
 
Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:09am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:07am:
Exactly - for freedom and democracy.
To beat Germany. Considering Germany was stealing people countries it was in a way. Turkey was stealing peoples countries too.


Were they?  Where?  You do realise that Turkey was the victim in WWI?  It was actively attacked first, by the British and French.  It was complicit with Germany's attack on Russia in the Black Sea but didn't actually take part itself.


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Re: Malaysia in the grip of Islamic extremists
Reply #59 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 7:48pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 6:38pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 9:47am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 10:36pm:
We can’t criticize Iraq - that would be unfair to those who died for its Freeeeedom.


You should have seen FD's hysterics when I dared suggested our beloved ANZACs weren't fighting for freedom or democracy when we invaded Turkey.


Gandalf are you upset that we forced Turkey to divert critical resources away from the genocide of the Armenians?


How did we do that?  Considering the Genocide didn't really take off until AFTER the attack at Gallipoli.    Roll Eyes
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