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New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx
Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:09am

With rising unemployment there's talk of a new 457 Plus Visa category which means that any foreigner can come here and work for a year and there is no requirement for an employer to prove that he can't find a local to fill a position.

But me thinks there is a sinister motive here. Me thinks they are running out of suckers to go into huge bank debt and buy houses here. No doubt there will be a clause that if they are willing to buy a house then they will get to stay permanently. Welcome to the new Australia folks !!

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Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx
Reply #1 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:17am

In my developing book concept "AustroChine" - I am just now considering how and when to insert the 'appeasers' who are seeking to stem the Yellow Tsunami by offering a few spots early to make it look as if we are good mates and partners...

In the real world - one can only surmise the level of sanity of the policy makers who seek to implement such insanities and rob Australians of a chance to earn an honest living and pay Swag's taxes instead of not getting a job....

Maybe a 457 visa tax of 90% will cover the unemployment benefits...

On a broader scale - these same policy makers seem to imagine that the current world order, already showing all the signs of collapse.. is the way it will be in five years time.....

In five year's time - at this rate - there will be no Australia.... does anyone seriously imagine that updating and promoting the industrial base of many potential powerful future enemies will actually make them less liable to engage in adventurism in the South Pacific?

Dream on.... history shows us differently.. and shows us that the overdue desperate attempts to cut back on the growing industrial/military power of a nation leads us to war.....

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Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx
Reply #2 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:19am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:09am:

With rising unemployment there's talk of a new 457 Plus Visa category which means that any foreigner can come here and work for a year and there is no requirement for an employer to prove that he can't find a local to fill a position.

But me thinks there is a sinister motive here. Me thinks they are running out of suckers to go into huge bank debt and buy houses here. No doubt there will be a clause that if they are willing to buy a house then they will get to stay permanently. Welcome to the new Australia folks !!

If there is - it is just another unthought out and indeed unthinking short-term grab for dollars from the dying money tree....

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx Reply #3 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:42am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:17am: Maybe a 457 visa tax of 90% will cover the unemployment benefits... Or an application fee of $20,000 - not refundable - to cover the cost of a year's dole payments plus all the support services.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx Reply #4 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 9:04am You won't be hearing much from the righties on this thread, selling out Australian workers , it's in their genes.
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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx Reply #5 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 9:05am Its time wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 9:04am: You won't be hearing much from the righties on this thread, selling out Australian workers , it's in their genes. So righties can't be Australian workers then?
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 21541 ACT Gender:	Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx Reply #6 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 9:08am Come on GG Dismiss Abbott in the public interest! Storm Parliament House!
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Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx
Reply #7 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 9:08am

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 9:05am:

Its time wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 9:04am:

You won't be hearing much from the righties on this thread, selling out Australian workers , it's in their genes.

So righties can't be Australian workers then?

I was talking about their beloved Abort making this fantastic decision.

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Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx
Reply #8 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:25am

Bam wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:42am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:17am:

Maybe a 457 visa tax of 90% will cover the unemployment benefits...

Or an application fee of $20,000 - not refundable - to cover the cost of a year's dole payments plus all the support services.

There's a thought.. or we could put jobs on the world market properly and charge going rate....... I mean - how many 'capitalists' here are telling us daily that jobs are just another commodity?

In that case we should all be entitled to put our potential job on the market and get a fair price for it... or our government should list them like our dollar on the money market and ensure a fair price......

Trading in jobs for real... the capitalist's dream...

OH - and don't forget to include all the things 'deemed' to accrue to the social security beneficiary. In calculating our 'worth' on the unemployment/pension market etc - the government takes into account our free legal aid and all... PBS.. lots of things that we allegedly don't pay for.

$20,000 is just the gratuity....

I absolutely bask in the free legal aid I get and even though I never need it.... it still cuts out a percentage of my pension...

Let's make it... oooh.. $40k.

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Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx
Reply #9 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:33am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 9:08am:

Come on GG

Dismiss Abbott in the public interest!

Storm Parliament House!

To get to be head of the Armed Forces, you need to be a politician..... at least PC did his bit.... seems, though, that this time he's left his pack and ammo behind again, like in 1969...

Here... **flings it to him**... now go git 'em!

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Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx
Reply #10 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:40am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 10:33am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 9:08am:

Come on GG

Dismiss Abbott in the public interest!

Storm Parliament House!

To get to be head of the Armed Forces, you need to be a politician.....

This only applies for the Government forces. Wink

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Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx
Reply #11 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:25pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:09am:

With rising unemployment there's talk of a new 457 Plus Visa category which means that any foreigner can come here and work for a year and there is no requirement for an employer to prove that he can't find a local to fill a position.

But me thinks there is a sinister motive here. Me thinks they are running out of suckers to go into huge bank debt and buy houses here. No doubt there will be a clause that if they are willing to buy a house then they will get to stay permanently. Welcome to the new Australia folks !!

Link?

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Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx
Reply #12 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 5:38pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:25pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:09am:

With rising unemployment there's talk of a new 457 Plus Visa category which means that any foreigner can come here and work for a year and there is no requirement for an employer to prove that he can't find a local to fill a position.

But me thinks there is a sinister motive here. Me thinks they are running out of suckers to go into huge bank debt and buy houses here. No doubt there will be a clause that if they are willing to buy a house then they will get to stay permanently. Welcome to the new Australia folks !!

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So, no link then?

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Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx
Reply #13 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:34pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 2:25pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:09am:

With rising unemployment there's talk of a new 457 Plus Visa category which means that any foreigner can come here and work for a year and there is no requirement for an employer to prove that he can't find a local to fill a position.

But me thinks there is a sinister motive here. Me thinks they are running out of suckers to go into huge bank debt and buy houses here. No doubt there will be a clause that if they are willing to buy a house then they will get to stay permanently. Welcome to the new Australia folks !!

Link?

So, no link then?

Here's a link ... Unions slam short term mobility visa skilled worker plan

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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: New 457 Plus Visas - Get ready for the influx Reply #14 - Jan 7^th, 2015 at 8:39pm im pretty sure it was for "skilled" migrants only.. not just anyone as the crack smoker Nails would have you believe. .. the solution? train our own bloody workers in the skills that are lacking.. its not rocket surgery...
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