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Reply #15 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:54am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:52am:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:32am:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:28am:

All is wrong. A big chunk of it is correct.

Almost ALL is wrong too.

Look at the states in the last 40 years.

The States:

" ... official FBI records ... show that only 6% of terrorist attacks on U.S. soil from 1980 to 2005 were carried out by Islamic extremists. The remaining 94% were from other groups (42% from Latinos, 24% from extreme left wing groups, 7% from extremist Jews, 5% from communists, and 16% from all other groups)."

Europe:

" ... a whopping 99.6% of terrorist attacks in Europe were by non-Muslim groups; a good 84.8% of attacks were from separatist groups completely unrelated to Islam. Leftist groups accounted for over sixteen times as much terrorism as radical Islamic groups. Only a measly 0.4% of terrorist attacks from 2006 to 2008 could be attributed to extremist Muslims."

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

None of the others killed over 3,000 people in one go though. How about- Muslims responsible for most of the worlds bad terrorist activities??

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Reply #16 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:57am

Are there any good Terrorist activities Rocket? You make a needless qualification. In reality, Muslims aren't responsible for most of the world's Terrorism. You seem ignorant of the numerous Terrorist attacks in India by Hindu and Christian Terrorists, the Buddhist Terrorist attacks in Burma and Thailand and the Communist Terrorist attacks in Korea and Central and Southern America. Why?

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Reply #17 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:01am

|dev|null wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

Are there any good Terrorist activities Rocket? You make a needless qualification. In reality, Muslims aren't responsible for most of the world's Terrorism. You seem ignorant of the numerous Terrorist attacks in India by Hindu and Christian Terrorists, the Buddhist Terrorist attacks in Burma and Thailand and the Communist Terrorist attacks in Korea and Central and Southern America. Why?

I can't think of too many groups abducting 200 girls to be sold as slaves , killing 140 children in a school, shooting up shopping centres and killing 200, blowing up buildings, buses, market places, clubs etc etc etc like Islamic nutjobs are at the moment. I can't stand seeing this big world issue being belittled.

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Reply #18 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:04am

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:52am:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:32am:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:28am:

All is wrong. A big chunk of it is correct.

Almost ALL is wrong too.

Look at the states in the last 40 years.

The States:

" ... official FBI records ... show that only 6% of terrorist attacks on U.S. soil from 1980 to 2005 were carried out by Islamic extremists. The remaining 94% were from other groups (42% from Latinos, 24% from extreme left wing groups, 7% from extremist Jews, 5% from communists, and 16% from all other groups)."

Europe:

" ... a whopping 99.6% of terrorist attacks in Europe were by non-Muslim groups; a good 84.8% of attacks were from separatist groups completely unrelated to Islam. Leftist groups accounted for over sixteen times as much terrorism as radical Islamic groups. Only a measly 0.4% of terrorist attacks from 2006 to 2008 could be attributed to extremist Muslims."

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

None of the others killed over 3,000 people in one go though. How about- Muslims responsible for most of the worlds bad terrorist activities??

Nothing was said about killing.

Sprint said: "islam - produces ... Almost ALL the terrorists."

He couldn't have been further from the truth.

What's a "good" terrorist activity, by the way?

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Reply #19 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:08am

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:01am:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

Are there any good Terrorist activities Rocket? You make a needless qualification. In reality, Muslims aren't responsible for most of the world's Terrorism. You seem ignorant of the numerous Terrorist attacks in India by Hindu and Christian Terrorists, the Buddhist Terrorist attacks in Burma and Thailand and the Communist Terrorist attacks in Korea and Central and Southern America. Why?

I can't think of too many groups abducting 200 girls to be sold as slaves , killing 140 children in a school, shooting up shopping centres and killing 200, blowing up buildings, buses, market places, clubs etc etc etc like Islamic nutjobs are at the moment. I can't stand seeing this big world issue being belittled.

I love how Islamophobes keep moving the goal posts. "All Terrorists are Muslims!" "No, they aren't." "Most Terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims!" "No, they aren't." "OK, Terrorist attacks by Muslims kill more people!"

Rocket, Muslim Terrorist attacks may kill more people per attack but you didn't start out that way in this thread. Why can't you just admit that you started out from a prejudiced position and are now just trying desperately to shore that position up by changing your claims on the fly? Grin

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Reply #20 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:09am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:04am:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:52am:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:32am:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:28am:

All is wrong. A big chunk of it is correct.

Almost ALL is wrong too.

Look at the states in the last 40 years.

The States:

" ... official FBI records ... show that only 6% of terrorist attacks on U.S. soil from 1980 to 2005 were carried out by Islamic extremists. The remaining 94% were from other groups (42% from Latinos, 24% from extreme left wing groups, 7% from extremist Jews, 5% from communists, and 16% from all other groups)."

Europe:

" ... a whopping 99.6% of terrorist attacks in Europe were by non-Muslim groups; a good 84.8% of attacks were from separatist groups completely unrelated to Islam. Leftist groups accounted for over sixteen times as much terrorism as radical Islamic groups. Only a measly 0.4% of terrorist attacks from 2006 to 2008 could be attributed to extremist Muslims."

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/

None of the others killed over 3,000 people in one go though. How about- Muslims responsible for most of the worlds bad terrorist activities??

Nothing was said about killing.

Sprint said: "islam - produces ... Almost ALL the terrorists."

He couldn't have been further from the truth.

What's a "good" terrorist activity, by the way?

None of them are good but muslim ones seem to be the worst. Like the Taliban killing 140 children in a school is worse that a letter bomb that kills one person. I agree , muslims are not doing all of them. But over the last 10 years I'd like to see the figures.

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Reply #21 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:11am

|dev|null wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:08am:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:01am:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

Are there any good Terrorist activities Rocket? You make a needless qualification. In reality, Muslims aren't responsible for most of the world's Terrorism. You seem ignorant of the numerous Terrorist attacks in India by Hindu and Christian Terrorists, the Buddhist Terrorist attacks in Burma and Thailand and the Communist Terrorist attacks in Korea and Central and Southern America. Why?

I can't think of too many groups abducting 200 girls to be sold as slaves , killing 140 children in a school, shooting up shopping centres and killing 200, blowing up buildings, buses, market places, clubs etc etc etc like Islamic nutjobs are at the moment. I can't stand seeing this big world issue being belittled.

I love how Islamophobes keep moving the goal posts. "All Terrorists are Muslims!" "No, they aren't." "Most Terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims!" "No, they aren't." "OK, Terrorist attacks by Muslims kill more people!"

Rocket, Muslim Terrorist attacks may kill more people per attack but you didn't start out that way in this thread. Why can't you just admit that you started out from a prejudiced position and are now just trying desperately to shore that position up by changing your claims on the fly? Grin

I never said muslims do all terrorist attacks. They just do a damned lot of them. Is that correct?

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: notable muslim failures Reply #22 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:14am Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:11am: I never said muslims do all terrorist attacks. They just do a damned lot of them. Is that correct? They may. So, should all Muslims be punished for those Terrorist attacks?
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Reply #23 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:18am

|dev|null wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:14am:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

I never said muslims do all terrorist attacks. They just do a damned lot of them. Is that correct?

They may. So, should all Muslims be punished for those Terrorist attacks? Grin

No. But it's a natural reaction to become suspicious of a group that is producing so much terrorism. If it was Eskimos doing the bombing the same thing would happen. I believe the mosques and their other belief systems (including in the home) should be studied to find out what's happening. It's in the best interest of community peace.

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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: notable muslim failures Reply #24 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:20am \|dev\|null wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:14am: Rocketanski wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:11am: I never said muslims do all terrorist attacks. They just do a damned lot of them. Is that correct? They may. So, should all Muslims be punished for those Terrorist attacks? Not they may. They are.
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Reply #25 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:24am

First you have to prove how many Terrorist attacks in total there are. Then you have to find out what proportion are attributed to Muslims Rocket. Then you might be able to work out if it is greater or lesser than the other motivated groups. You haven't presented any evidence, just asked us to accept your proclamation. Very silly really. Next you'll be asking us to believe in some bloke up in the sky being God. Grin

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"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Reply #26 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:26am

|dev|null wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

First you have to prove how many Terrorist attacks in total there are. Then you have to find out what proportion are attributed to Muslims Rocket. Then you might be able to work out if it is greater or lesser than the other motivated groups. You haven't presented any evidence, just asked us to accept your proclamation. Very silly really. Next you'll be asking us to believe in some bloke up in the sky being God. Grin

So Islamic nutjobs aren't killing thousands of people per year around the world then?? Undecided

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: notable muslim failures Reply #27 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:30am All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 94% that Aren’t in the USA. Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t So, in the US and Europe most Terrorists aren't Muslims...
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138582 Gender:	Re: notable muslim failures Reply #28 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:40am I'll fix this: "islam - produces ... Almost ALL the terrorists that are seen on the 6 o'clock news in Australia."
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Reply #29 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:41am

It doesn't surprise me that Islam is not responsible for the majority of terrorist attacks. When you can shoot up a cafe in sydney in the name of Islam; when you can shoot up a magazine office is Paris in the name of Islam; when you can blow up trains, buildings, and planes in the name of Islam only to have the same fckwits every time say "these are just the actions of insane people... Ain't got nuffin to do with Islam", then it becomes easy to keep the stats low. Frenchy Muslims in Paris shooting up offices will simple become "homegrown French terrorists" and bingo;

French terrorist = 1
Muslim terrorist = 0

Anyone why says otherwise is just a bigoted islamophobe.

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