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Jan 8th, 2015 at 5:05am
 
Put the GST on private health insurance and private schools, not fresh food

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    January 8, 2015
    The Age

Food for thought: Health experts have raised fears that applying the GST to fresh food will worsen rates of obesity and chronic disease.

The Abbott government should apply the GST to private health and education, rather than fresh food, if it wants to raise more revenue with the tax, according to research from think tank The Australia Institute.

That would help to raise an extra $2.3 billion a year, and it would be less regressive than applying the GST to fresh food because it would affect predominantly middle- and high-income households.   Smiley

The Abbott government has kickstarted debate on raising the GST this week with Country Liberal MP Dan Tehan saying the tax should be broadened to cover items such as fresh food, education and health.   Sad


Country Liberal MP Dan Tehan sparked debate on raising the GST this week, saying the tax should cover fresh food, education and health.

By broadening the GST it would raise $21.6 billion in extra revenue each year and enable further serious reductions in direct taxes, Mr Tehan has argued.

But health experts have slammed suggestions the GST should apply to fresh food, warning such a change would worsen already alarming rates of obesity and chronic disease.

Australia's farmers have also criticised the move, saying big supermarkets would push the costs onto farming families, and consumers would switch to less healthy and cheaper processed foods.      Sad   

In a new paper, called How to Extend the GST without Hurting the Poor, Australia Institute economist Matt Grudnoff has argued that the government could make the GST less regressive while raising more revenue at the same time.

"[And] this could be achieved by removing the GST exemptions for services that are more likely to be consumed by higher-income households," Mr Grudnoff argues.

"The two prime candidates for consideration are private schools and private health insurance."   Smiley

Drawing on work by the National Centre for Social and Economic Modelling (NATSEM), the paper shows the government would raise an extra $1.5 billion a year from a GST on private health insurance and $790 million from private schools.

Most of that money would come from families living in capital cities, rather than regional areas.

"The criticism of the Abbott government's first budget was that it was unfair," Mr Grudnoff says in the paper.

"Analysis of the budget from a number of different sources, including Treasury, showed that the budget savings were built on taking money from those on lower incomes far more than those on higher incomes."   Sad

"A broadening of the GST to include private schools and private health insurance is less likely to be subject to similar criticism, since most of the tax revenue will come from higher-income earners."   Wink

Earlier this week, the Grattan Institute think tank said if the government put a GST on fresh food it would raise an extra $6 billion a year.

Assistant Treasurer Josh Frydenberg  suggested recently that the GST should be applied to goods bought from overseas websites that are worth less than $1000, but he has been criticised by members of his own party for doing so.

But Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said on Wednesday that she supported all MPs who wanted to talk about ways to reform the GST.

"I certainly supports MPs for putting forward ideas," Ms Bishop said.

"We should have a constructive, mature debate about our taxation system and that would include the GST."

The executive director of the Institute for Public Affairs, John Roskam, urged the government to drop talk of new taxes and stand up for consumers instead.

"The membership understands the cost pressures on individuals and families and it is a terrible message at the start of 2015 for the federal government to be talking about increasing costs for families and increasing taxes when they should talking about doing the opposite," he said.

Mr Roskam said extending the GST to online purchases - the move flagged by Mr Frydenberg this week - would increase the cost of living for families for little revenue gain.   Sad

"It will be a pin-prick to allegedly help save the retailers when they have far bigger problems," Mr Roskam said.

The GST raises about $54 billion in revenue for the federal government each year, before being distributed to the states.
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Re: Put GST On Private Health Insurance Not Fresh Food
Reply #1 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 6:00am
 
Extend the gst on nothing you lying grubs! The people are sick of your lies and if you want to change anything make it policy and take to an election so the people can decide. Angry Angry
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Reply #2 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:01am
 
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Put the GST on private health insurance and private schools, not fresh food


that'll never happen with a liberal govt. ... they only want taxes that OTHER people pay
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Reply #3 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:14am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:01am:
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Put the GST on private health insurance and private schools, not fresh food


that'll never happen with a liberal govt. ... they only want taxes that OTHER people pay


Not sure I agree, like with education many conservatives like to force the price up to keep the rabble out and to insure that it is an exclusive service for the benefit of their people only.
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Reply #4 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:15am
 
I believe that we have a long held commitment from the conservatives including Tony Abbott to not increase the GST on anything.

This is the problem you get when you elect someone to be PM when you know that his word has no value.
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Reply #5 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:17am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:14am:
Not sure I agree, like with education many conservatives like to force the price up to keep the rabble out and to insure that it is an exclusive service for the benefit of their people only


rich people don't like to pay any more than they have to . ..... especially taxes
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Reply #6 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:21am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:17am:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:14am:
Not sure I agree, like with education many conservatives like to force the price up to keep the rabble out and to insure that it is an exclusive service for the benefit of their people only


rich people don't like to pay any more than they have to . ..... especially taxes


They virtually don't actually pay any taxes. For many their income is zero.
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Reply #7 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:45am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:21am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:17am:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:14am:
Not sure I agree, like with education many conservatives like to force the price up to keep the rabble out and to insure that it is an exclusive service for the benefit of their people only


rich people don't like to pay any more than they have to . ..... especially taxes


They virtually don't actually pay any taxes. For many their income is zero.



been denunked multiple times but you have turned into such an ignorant dolt, you cannot learn.
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Reply #8 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:57am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:45am:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:21am:
John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:17am:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:14am:
Not sure I agree, like with education many conservatives like to force the price up to keep the rabble out and to insure that it is an exclusive service for the benefit of their people only


rich people don't like to pay any more than they have to . ..... especially taxes


They virtually don't actually pay any taxes. For many their income is zero.



been denunked multiple times but you have turned into such an ignorant dolt, you cannot learn.


Only when you show that the rich are on $70K.
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Reply #9 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:06am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:57am:
Only when you show that the rich are on $70K.


Someone on $70K is rich compared to someone on $35K.... Grin

Twice as rich...
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Reply #10 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:08am
 
A single person on $88Kpa must be rich these days according to the Govt as that's when the Medicare Levy Surcharge kicks in?
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Reply #11 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:11am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:01am:
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Put the GST on private health insurance and private schools, not fresh food


that'll never happen with a liberal govt. ... they only want taxes that OTHER people pay


That's complete rot.  It's Leftists that want to live out of everyone else's pocket.

The GST should be levied on everything then there'd be no arguments.
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Reply #12 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:15am
 
It doesn't seem to matter how often we explain things to you people, you just don't get it do you.

To the extent that you disincentivise private education and private health insurance, to that extent you put extra burdens on the public systems.
A lot of the people who pay for these products - many, many people - are on low to medium incomes and make sacrifices to exercise their choice.
But at the same time, their marginal propensity to opt out is high.
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Reply #13 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:18am
 
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Drawing on work by the National Centre for Social and Economic Modelling (NATSEM), the paper shows the government would raise an extra $1.5 billion a year from a GST on private health insurance and $790 million from private schools.

A similar amount can be saved by trimming the fat of the private health insurance rebate from 30% to 20%.
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Reply #14 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:22am
 
Bam wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:18am:
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Drawing on work by the National Centre for Social and Economic Modelling (NATSEM), the paper shows the government would raise an extra $1.5 billion a year from a GST on private health insurance and $790 million from private schools.

A similar amount can be saved by trimming the fat of the private health insurance rebate from 30% to 20%.


Just disolve medicare and all rebates and get everyone to pay their own way in life.  See how you ochlocratic socialists like that one.
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