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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Put GST On Private Health Insurance Not Fresh Food Reply #90 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 1:25pm Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 1:16pm: Regressive taxes are not the evil boogieman that Lefty spinners crap on about ...on that note I didn't see Crook nor any of you other Lefties whinging about the regressive properties of the carbon dioxide tax?
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Reply #91 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:49pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

Do you think that the lowest paid should pay more tax ?

Yes they should. That's the stupidity of politicians.

they can't ... they have no extra money to pay in taxes

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/marginaltaxrates.jpg

The lowest paid don't pay any income tax anyway Smithy.

If the GST was increased to 15% and the income tax threshold increased to compensate there'd be effall impact on the lowest paid other than getting increased benefits and services as a result of greater revenues to Govt.

Regressive taxes are not the evil boogieman that Lefty spinners crap on about Huh

my tenant pay over $20k a year in rent swag, now even if they could survive a year without food, phone, elect, car clothes or any other expenses, they still don't have enough for a roof over their heads, let alone any extra for income tax. Sydney and Melbourne rents are even worse.
I repeat, they have no extra money to pay in tax

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Reply #92 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:56pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:49pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

Do you think that the lowest paid should pay more tax ?

Yes they should. That's the stupidity of politicians.

they can't ... they have no extra money to pay in taxes

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/marginaltaxrates.jpg

The lowest paid don't pay any income tax anyway Smithy.

If the GST was increased to 15% and the income tax threshold increased to compensate there'd be effall impact on the lowest paid other than getting increased benefits and services as a result of greater revenues to Govt.

Regressive taxes are not the evil boogieman that Lefty spinners crap on about Huh

my tenant pay over $20k a year in rent swag, now even if they could survive a year without food, phone, elect, car clothes or any other expenses, they still don't have enough for a roof over their heads, let alone any extra for income tax. Sydney and Melbourne rents are even worse.
I repeat, they have no extra money to pay in tax

You really only half read my posts don't you Jonathon. Cheesy

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Put GST On Private Health Insurance Not Fresh Food Reply #93 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:59pm Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:56pm: You really only half read my posts Jonathon. thats usually enough to make me shake my head raising tax free threshold won't do a thing to someone who only earns 20k ... and you've just increased ALL his bills by 5%
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Put GST On Private Health Insurance Not Fresh Food Reply #94 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 3:00pm John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:49pm: my tenant pay over $20k a year in rent swag BTW ........you capitalist porky you...
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Reply #95 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 8:56pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 3:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:49pm:

my tenant pay over $20k a year in rent swag

BTW ........you capitalist porky you... Grin

I don't have a problem with Capitalism, its when Capitalism overrides humanity that I have a problem. Money is good, HOWEVER money is not the be all and end all.

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Reply #96 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 9:05pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 9:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 9:25pm:

The interesting thing that the table does not show is that high earners also pay tax at the same rate on what they earn below $37,000.

the other thing is that that table would show Gina as earning $150 000 ... it doesn't count any of the 'income' from the companies she controls. How many of Ginas cars, boats or planes do you think are in her name? Cheesy

Actually I don't know about Gina but a recent article showed that hundreds of people in Gina's financial position were paying tax consultants on average a bit over $2 Million per year but filing a tax return of zero income.

In the stats being used hundreds of people in a position similar to Gina's are counted among the nations poorest people paying virtually no tax at all.

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Reply #97 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 9:07pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:49pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

Do you think that the lowest paid should pay more tax ?

Yes they should. That's the stupidity of politicians.

they can't ... they have no extra money to pay in taxes

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b76/timbo2530/marginaltaxrates.jpg

The lowest paid don't pay any income tax anyway Smithy.

If the GST was increased to 15% and the income tax threshold increased to compensate there'd be effall impact on the lowest paid other than getting increased benefits and services as a result of greater revenues to Govt.

Regressive taxes are not the evil boogieman that Lefty spinners crap on about Huh

my tenant pay over $20k a year in rent swag, now even if they could survive a year without food, phone, elect, car clothes or any other expenses, they still don't have enough for a roof over their heads, let alone any extra for income tax. Sydney and Melbourne rents are even worse.
I repeat, they have no extra money to pay in tax

my tenant pay over $20k a year in rent

In a lot of areas that would be very cheap.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59250 Here Gender:	Re: Put GST On Private Health Insurance Not Fresh Food Reply #98 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 9:08pm Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:56pm: You really only half read my posts don't you Jonathon. I confess - I often give up well before the last sentence as well.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59250 Here Gender:	Re: Put GST On Private Health Insurance Not Fresh Food Reply #99 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 9:09pm Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 3:00pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:49pm: my tenant pay over $20k a year in rent swag BTW ........you capitalist porky you... I read all of this one.
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Reply #100 - Jan 10^th, 2015 at 9:23pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

If the GST was increased to 15% and the income tax threshold increased to compensate there'd be effall impact on the lowest paid other than getting increased benefits and services as a result of greater revenues to Govt.

Regressive taxes are not the evil boogieman that Lefty spinners crap on about Huh

If the GST was increased by 5% the lowest paid would pay an extra 5% on many purchases with nothing in compensation. This would have an impact on the lowest paid.

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Reply #101 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 9:36am

Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 1:25pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

Regressive taxes are not the evil boogieman that Lefty spinners crap on about

...on that note I didn't see Crook nor any of you other Lefties whinging about the regressive properties of the carbon dioxide tax? Huh

The carbon levy came with full compensation. Compensation won't be there if the GST is increased.

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Reply #102 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 9:44am

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 8:56pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 3:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 2:49pm:

my tenant pay over $20k a year in rent swag

BTW ........you capitalist porky you... Grin

I don't have a problem with Capitalism, its when Capitalism overrides humanity that I have a problem. Money is good, HOWEVER money is not the be all and end all.

You are lost, doomed to never become a Liberal with that attitude.

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Reply #103 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 11:03am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 9:23pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

If the GST was increased to 15% and the income tax threshold increased to compensate there'd be effall impact on the lowest paid other than getting increased benefits and services as a result of greater revenues to Govt.

Regressive taxes are not the evil boogieman that Lefty spinners crap on about Huh

If the GST was increased by 5% the lowest paid would pay an extra 5% on many purchases with nothing in compensation. This would have an impact on the lowest paid.

Smithy pointed that out (as I mentioned an increase to tax free threshold in compo which would cover those poor unfortunates that don't pay any tax at all). Obviously compo in the form of low income rebates paid by Centrelink / health cards / increases to benefits etc.

The increased revenues as with income tax will be sourced from high income earners. They pay the lion's share of all taxes and they spend the lion's share on consumption.

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