Soren wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 8:03pm:


Yes, old boy, right now, the world over, the dastardly Muselman is fighting to legalize terrorism.

Typical.

Karnal wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 10:14pm:


No, however, I do remember a great many threats were offered online in some forums about them by some Australians who seemed to have gotten rather upset by them, K.

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As I've pointed out, I haven't worked in an office now for at least 10 years which did not have the vestibule surveiled by cameras and the locks weren't released on the doors until the visitor had been checked over.  The reception area was similarly secured as well and this was in offices that had not been firebombed and weren't in daily reception of death threats.

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Have I said that?  No, what I'm saying is that I'd expect them to be better prepared for a response after being firebombed and threatened with death on a regular basis.

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I didn't suggest you wouldn't, I asked if there might not be a response from others, K.

Quantum, if you asked your questions in the same way Karnel did, then I would answer them in the say way.  However, you and your fellow Islamophobes resort to ad hominem at the drop of a hat.   When you stop with the ad hominem, when you are respectful, I'll return the favour.  That you appear to need to have this simple fact explained, suggests what about you?   

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:17am:


Oh yes, you are oh so respectful to anyone with a different opinion. You never come into a thread and immediately discredit and patronise anyone with a different view. No way. You're the victim of disrespect all the time and because you're the victim you have a right to defend yourself...

No wonder you are such a Islamophile with that mentally.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 1:35am:


As I said; another innocent victim of big bad disrespectful people who would love a mature debate, but is forced to return serve. You must be so unlucky Bwian. Everyone has been a disrespectful <unt to you when you were nothing but a gentlemen. It could have nothing do to with your condescending posting style could it? You would never reply to anyone for the first time throwing words like "bigot" with a dozen  "" around? Surely not. No, you're the victim Bwian. Everyone else starts it...

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10^th, 2015 at 10:06pm:



Only Muslims brought fire bombs and guns.
The magazine was an equal-opportunity offender. But in the 21st century West, only Muslims kill over cartoons or books.  Nobody else.

People aren’t robots. No religious authority can make people do things outside of Iran, Saudi Arabia and perhaps Yemen, where the imams and mullahs are in charge.

Likewise, if people look to texts to define how they should behave in very specific terms, they’re missing the point entirely.

If any religion or sect micro-manages people, in my opinion, it’s false religion. The very purpose of spiritual teaching is to empower people and give them autonomy.

Having said that, religious orders of monks and nuns are a little different. Here, people volunteer to be micro-managed. These orders impart discipline and routine, and they are not about family life.

Islam, however, is about families. Islam does not have monks. It has a few precepts and rules, and these all fit within the context of the family. Praying five times a day is one of the rules, and this is rigorous compared to other religions. It requires effort and discipline..

It is, however, one of very few Islamic precepts, or pillars. No one is, or should be, forced to pray. All the pillars are voluntary. No one is forced to do the Haj. No one is forced to give alms. If they were, it would defeat the entire purpose of such precepts.

If religion or society attempts to force such things, it’s phoney. Such sects or societies should be critiqued, where possible, or defeated where it’s not possible. The most forceful attempt to encourage prayer I’ve experienced in the Muslim countries I’ve travelled in is the loudspeakers to get people to the mosque. Even in India, Hindus are woken up with the call to prayer. Personally, this would drive me crazy, but people accept it.