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Reply #195 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:39pm

Soren wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:32pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

Karnal you seem to be missing the most obvious point - they are not depicting arabs, they are depicting muslims.

What is privileged about following Mohammed? Or about Mohammed hilself.

Why not ridicule THAT particular belief?

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but after the last round of global events, the old boy is right.

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Reply #196 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:43pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

Karnal you seem to be missing the most obvious point - they are not depicting arabs, they are depicting muslims.

I thought that they were depicting Muhammed.

If I was illustrating a Muslim, I’d be depicting an.Arab. It’s how it goes.

Sure, I could go with a Turk in a Fez or an Indonesian in a loud batik.shirt, but the hook-nosed Arab tells it like it is.

It’s not racist, it’s real. If I wanted to depict an Australian, it would be a sunburnt hayseed in a hat with corks.

Sorry to.be racialist, but I wouldn’t be depicting a cheese-snorting Kraut. Would you?

If I was illustrating a Muslim, I’d be depicting an.Arab.

Indian was the first nationality that came to my mind, lots in Indonesia as well.

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Reply #197 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:44pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:54pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:32pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

Karnal you seem to be missing the most obvious point - they are not depicting arabs, they are depicting muslims.

And what's wrong with taking the piss outa Muslims? What is privileged about following Mohammed? Or about Mohammed hilself.

Why not ridicule THAT particular belief?

Please do Soren, I welcome it. In fact I stated in another thread that I believe it should be open slather on the issue of ridiculing and mocking religions.

Good point. You won’t feel the need to.blame cartoonists for drawing pictures of faces that are racial signifiers, then.

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Reply #198 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:47pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:34pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:28pm:

Karnal you seem to be missing the most obvious point - they are not depicting arabs, they are depicting muslims.

I thought that they were depicting Muhammed.

If I was illustrating a Muslim, I’d be depicting an.Arab. It’s how it goes.

Sure, I could go with a Turk in a Fez or an Indonesian in a loud batik.shirt, but the hook-nosed Arab tells it like it is.

It’s not racist, it’s real. If I wanted to depict an Australian, it would be a sunburnt hayseed in a hat with corks.

Sorry to.be racialist, but I wouldn’t be depicting a cheese-snorting Kraut. Would you?

If I was illustrating a Muslim, I’d be depicting an.Arab.

Indian was the first nationality that came to my mind, lots in Indonesia as well.

Why not a hideous Kraut on a poolside sunlounge?

No need to.be racist.

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Reply #199 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:47pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 8:33pm:

Serious question for both Soren and FD - can you conceive of any situation where attacking muslims amounts to racism?

Ooh, that's a tough one. How about if you are attacking them because of their race rather than their religion?

Always, absolutely, never ever.

Gandalf, is this picture wacist, on account of Osama having certain racial features, like the head-dress and robe?

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Reply #200 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:49pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:16pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 8:33pm:

Serious question for both Soren and FD - can you conceive of any situation where attacking muslims amounts to racism?

No.

Believing in Islam - being a Muslim - is not a racial trait. There are - a dwindling number, thanks to Muslims, of - Arab Christians.

Gandy, Can you conceive of any situation where attacking Christians amounts to racism?

Your problem is that you do realise, un-selfconsciously, that Islam is an Arab ideology. Christianity, on the other hand, calls you out of your nation INTO Christianity - regardless of your previous national or racial affinity.

Following Mohammed is silly. I can't believe you fall for it.

many blessings

as you are a self confessed freemason

why did you swear your oaths

and fall for a satanic system

of domination and control ?

im interested with forgiveness

namaste

I blame Islam.

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Reply #201 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:55pm

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It is not suppression - it is free speech going both ways - people are free to condemn people for being bigoted just as the bigots are free to express their bigotry.

We have a right to be a bigot?

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No doubt the copts are attacked along racial lines - would you agree?

First I have heard of it. Are they attacked along racial lines in the same sense that Islamophobia always has been and always will be about race?

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Reply #202 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:02pm

Soren wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:23pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:16pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 8:33pm:

Serious question for both Soren and FD - can you conceive of any situation where attacking muslims amounts to racism?

No.

Believing in Islam - being a Muslim - is not a racial trait. There are - a dwindling number, thanks to Muslims, of - Arab Christians.

Gandy, Can you conceive of any situation where attacking Christians amounts to racism?

Your problem is that you do realise, un-selfconsciously, that Islam is an Arab ideology. Christianity, on the other hand, calls you out of your nation INTO Christianity - regardless of your previous national or racial affinity.

Following Mohammed is silly. I can't believe you fall for it.

many blessings

as you are a self confessed freemason

why did you swear your oaths

and fall for a satanic system

of domination and control ?

im interested with forgiveness

namaste

If I said f Vck off lunatic, would you take it personally? I am not saying it, I am just asking what if.

Please lemme know.

many blessings

you are forgiven either way so be at peace

and at one with your grand hierophant

namaste

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Re: France terror attack is justified by Islam
Reply #203 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:03pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:16pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 8:33pm:

Serious question for both Soren and FD - can you conceive of any situation where attacking muslims amounts to racism?

No.

Believing in Islam - being a Muslim - is not a racial trait. There are - a dwindling number, thanks to Muslims, of - Arab Christians.

Gandy, Can you conceive of any situation where attacking Christians amounts to racism?

Your problem is that you do realise, un-selfconsciously, that Islam is an Arab ideology. Christianity, on the other hand, calls you out of your nation INTO Christianity - regardless of your previous national or racial affinity.

Following Mohammed is silly. I can't believe you fall for it.

many blessings

as you are a self confessed freemason

why did you swear your oaths

and fall for a satanic system

of domination and control ?

im interested with forgiveness

namaste

I blame Islam.

either islam or ebola

dp and suchness

namaste

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Reply #205 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:54pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:02pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:23pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:16pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 9:02pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 8:33pm:

Serious question for both Soren and FD - can you conceive of any situation where attacking muslims amounts to racism?

No.

Believing in Islam - being a Muslim - is not a racial trait. There are - a dwindling number, thanks to Muslims, of - Arab Christians.

Gandy, Can you conceive of any situation where attacking Christians amounts to racism?

Your problem is that you do realise, un-selfconsciously, that Islam is an Arab ideology. Christianity, on the other hand, calls you out of your nation INTO Christianity - regardless of your previous national or racial affinity.

Following Mohammed is silly. I can't believe you fall for it.

many blessings

as you are a self confessed freemason

why did you swear your oaths

and fall for a satanic system

of domination and control ?

im interested with forgiveness

namaste

If I said f Vck off lunatic, would you take it personally? I am not saying it, I am just asking what if.

Please lemme know.

many blessings

you are forgiven either way so be at peace

and at one with your grand hierophant

namaste

Grand Hierophant?

Good heavens, I thought the old boy was at one with his Danish Bleu.

Shurely shome mishtake.

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Reply #206 - Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:19pm:

Dear master Light,

stop forgiving them all the time.

Is there an ounce of malice in you or

are you as perfect as the messiah?

namaste

Sheeit, Bobbie, your preacher’s ass is as smooth as Springtime daisies. He done read from his hymnbook and put a curse all sorts of disaffected malcontents: freemasons, lizzards, popes and such like. Dang, boy, your preacher even puts a spell on them aliens.

But not one niggra in the lot.

Goddamn, if I wants to git me a shine, I’ll have me a trussed up ninny with white teeth an a good pink tongue. Ain’t no preacher gonna pick ’em, I’ll put my penny in the church bowl like every other decent, niggra-hatin good ol boy in Karnal County, got me, boy?

We’s Christian folk in this town, you tell your preacher that.

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Reply #207 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:26am

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:19pm:

Dear master Light,

stop forgiving them all the time.

Is there an ounce of malice in you or

are you as perfect as the messiah?

namaste

Sheeit, Bobbie, your preacher’s ass is as smooth as Springtime daisies. He done read from his hymnbook and put a curse all sorts of disaffected malcontents: freemasons, lizzards, popes and such like. Dang, boy, your preacher even puts a spell on them aliens.

But not one niggra in the lot.

Goddamn, if I wants to git me a shine, I’ll have me a trussed up ninny with white teeth an a good pink tongue. Ain’t no preacher gonna pick ’em, I’ll put my penny in the church bowl like every other decent, niggra-hatin good ol boy in Karnal County, got me, boy?

We’s Christian folk in this town, you tell your preacher that.

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Reply #208 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:08am

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 11:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 10:19pm:

Dear master Light,

stop forgiving them all the time.

Is there an ounce of malice in you or

are you as perfect as the messiah?

namaste

Sheeit, Bobbie, your preacher’s ass is as smooth as Springtime daisies. He done read from his hymnbook and put a curse all sorts of disaffected malcontents: freemasons, lizzards, popes and such like. Dang, boy, your preacher even puts a spell on them aliens.

But not one niggra in the lot.

Goddamn, if I wants to git me a shine, I’ll have me a trussed up ninny with white teeth an a good pink tongue. Ain’t no preacher gonna pick ’em, I’ll put my penny in the church bowl like every other decent, niggra-hatin good ol boy in Karnal County, got me, boy?

We’s Christian folk in this town, you tell your preacher that.

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Reply #209 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:13am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

In.our society, freedom of speech is a rule. It has some limits, and we negotiate them. We don’t kill those who do things that are against the laws of our religion.

If we did, it would be a clash of civilisations.

A few of these clashes going on around the world

The Cold War was a clash of civilisations. I don’t think we’re there yet.

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