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Re: France terror attack is justified by Islam
Reply #255 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:19pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 7:57pm:

There’s one more: always, absolutely, never ever.

That’s the next one.

You are like Martin from One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest, PB:

Martini is an Acute. He lives in his own illusory, fantasy world. During the basketball game, for example,

he passes the ball to imaginary players that only he can see

, and on the fishing trip he sees things in the water that no one else can.

That's you, PB, sooo you.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95870 Gender:	Re: France terror attack is justified by Islam Reply #256 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:35pm Good heavens, old dear, I just realised. You’ve got a forth post: ¿Que?
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Re: France terror attack is justified by Islam
Reply #257 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 10:27am

Soren wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 5:42pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:33pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:56pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:30pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 3:05pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 2:24pm:

|dev|null wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 11:49am:

Which Islamic Caliphate are we discussing?

IS has proclaimed itself the Caliphate.

So has Boko Haram.

Will the real Caliph please stand up? Grin

Every Muslim is a caliphate unto himself.

So, explain then Soren how there is IS and Boko Haram declaring they are the Caliphates and every Muslim declaring themselves a Caliphate?

My understanding is that Sunni Islam appoints (or rather self-appoints) a Caliph. Sh'ia Islam claims that a Caliph must be a direct descendent from the Prophet.

I'm genuinely interested at discrepancy between the different Caliphate which appears to contradict your view that Islam is monolithic. Grin

Monolithic - that is your line and you peddle it relentlessly even if no-one else has ever said that. I have never argued that Islam is monolithic; that I have is entirely your invention.

That I am not sympathetic to any of its versions and strands is not the same as viewing it as a monolith. But you have always been too thick to comprehend such a simple thing.

Soren you treat Islam and Muslims as if they were monolithic. For you, if one Muslim says one thing, then all Muslims must believe it. If you believe Islam says something, then all Muslims believe it.

The Christian Bible contains the Old Testament and the New. Christians here, such as Moses, claim that the Old Testament has been discarded, yet it is still an integral part of the Bible. Yadda likes to quote from it. Sprint acts as if he believes it. Using your logic, which Christian should we believe? The one who discards half the Bible or the one who quotes from that part of the Bible or the one who seems to propose acting on those beliefs? Afterall, your logic would treat them as all monolithic! Grin

See highlighted clause above.

Geddit?

So, you're confirming your bigotry and Islamophobia Soren?

Well done. Now, we just need for you start working towards changing this and becoming part of the 21st instead of the 13th century. Grin

Ah, so now we HAVE to like Islam.

Good one Little Brain.

No, Soren you have to learn to "tolerate" it. I suggest you look up the definition of that word. It may enlighten you. It is the antonym of "persecute". Grin

"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: France terror attack is justified by Islam Reply #258 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:49am I don't have to verbally tolerate any ideology or religion, not even Islam. Holding beliefs that oppose Islamic ideology and religion is perfectly OK. Complete disagreement and opposition are not persecution.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49066 At my desk.	Re: France terror attack is justified by Islam Reply #259 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:56am In the name of tolerance, you must refrain from persecuting Muslims by expressing your opinion.
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Re: France terror attack is justified by Islam
Reply #260 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:22pm

Brain and Gandy and Hot Plate and PB remind me at every turn.
You can disagree with only those ideologies that do not threaten to kill you. The single ideology - there is no other that does this - that threatens to kill you if you draw cartoons about its founder, and then kills you, is to be regarded as the Religion of Peace.

I think the only worse people than the murderous fanatics are the ones who bow to them and give in to their demands and take their ideology seriously.

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