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Quote:Of course it's OK, Soren. Some Muslims don't like it, they're the ones we have to worry about. The rest couldn't care less.
Gandalf cares, and as far as I can tell he isn't chopping people's heads off. He wants to calmly and politely destroy freedom of speech.
Quote:so you dont mind the media putting its people in danger as long as it doesnt include you???>...
Cods self censorship is the worst possible response to these attacks on freedom of speech.
Quote:not sure really what good insulting people does???....do you know the answer?
I am going to dig up some of those cartoons and post them. The 'good' it does is defending freedom of speech.
Quote:The Terrorists want a kneejerk reaction from Islamophobes like you
Do you think they want more of these cartoons published? Do you think they want the west to unite in defense of freedom of speech?
Quote:so what when you attack innocent Muslims you drive them into the arms of the Terrorists who can point out, "Look, all their talk about being a liberal, Democratic society which is tolerant of pluralism is just lies.
If publishing cartoons causes Muslims to join up with terrorists, then all their platitudes about not really being against the fundamental values of the civilised societies they have joined really were just lies.
Quote:I agree. I also agree with Cods. You should put these cartoons on a sandwich board and walk down the street in Lakemba Baron.
We should do it in the thousands, then join the Muslims for a BBQ on the footpath out the front of their mosque so they can demonstrate that they too support freedom of speech.
Quote:At no point did I say that we should not oppose the Terrorists and their Islamist/Salafist interpretation of Islam. In fact, that is exactly what I'd like to see happen, some nice, selective, targeted responses to what ever Terrorist attack has occurred.
We should limit ourselves to respond in the manner that you and the other apologists and Muslims approve of?
Quote:What do you think bin Laden wanted to happen after his followers flew those planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon?
Die? Have the taliban lose control of Afghanistan? Have America walk out of the place and leave Muslims squabbling over their new democracy?
Quote:It wasn't for the Americans and the West to sit back and think about what they should do, he wanted them to bomb the crap out of innocent Muslims in Afghanistan, so that they'd support al Qaeda and the Taliban, which is exactly what they've done.
That's funny, they didn't vote for them. there's a reason that Bin Ladens followers in Afghanistan oppose democracy to the death. They know what is going on and they know these words of yorus are BS.
Quote:How does that answer my question Bobby? Where is the "sympathy" you've claimed to read in my post for Terrorism or Terrorists? I can't see it. As someone used to say, "Please explain!"
You sympathise with them when you blame the west, or anyone but the terrorists, for their terrorism. You sympathise with them when you insist that the only reasonable response is to let them rape and pillage their way across the world, because standing up to them is what causes terrorism. You sympathise with them by constantly spewing your useful idiot garbage.
Quote:Gunmen shoots cop who was on the ground supposedly in the head, head doesnt bleed or splatter
Thanks Wally. It is good to see the Muslims and apologists already looking for some alternative explanation, bar the obvious.
Quote:Actually he was mowed down with machine gun, still didnt bleed, he then managed to try and get up and got shot in his head 30 cm away from the gun and blood still didnt come out.
Yes Wally I am sure it is all a grand conspiracy to make Islam look bad. If it doesn't look like a Tarantino movie it must be fake eh?
Quote:If they DON'T know this - and don't ADHERE to this - they are not practicing Muslims
Just common murderers, hiding behind the Islam faith
Well done Buzz. They come from a long line of common murderers hiding behind Islam's name. Like that Muhammed bloke.