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Fact for today - carbon dioxide
Jan 9^th, 2015 at 7:52am

Carbon dioxide (Co2) is a trace gas that, by itself, will produce little warming. Also, as carbon dioxide increases, the incremental warming is less, as the effect is logarithmic. Therefore, the more carbon dioxide, the less warming it produces, shattering long-held theories that this naturally occurring gas that is essential for life is the cause of global warming!

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26290 Gender:	Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide Reply #1 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 9:40am What's the matter, GW? Can't handle the truth?
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide Reply #2 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:06am Oh sorry a.p, didn't notice your attempt at gaining my attention until now. So are you contacting the majority of climate scientists with your scientific breakthrough?
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Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide
Reply #3 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:09am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Carbon dioxide (Co2) is a trace gas that, by itself, will produce little warming. Also, as carbon dioxide increases, the incremental warming is less, as the effect is logarithmic. Therefore, the more carbon dioxide, the less warming it produces, shattering long-held theories that this naturally occurring gas that is essential for life is the cause of global warming!

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... or former model & children's TV hostess - Joanne "Nova"
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Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide
Reply #4 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:29am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Carbon dioxide (Co2) is a trace gas that, by itself, will produce little warming. Also, as carbon dioxide increases, the incremental warming is less, as the effect is logarithmic. Therefore, the more carbon dioxide, the less warming it produces, shattering long-held theories that this naturally occurring gas that is essential for life is the cause of global warming!

Tony Watts

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... or former model & children's TV hostess - Joanne "Nova"
?

Looks lke Joseph D'Aleo, because everyone should get their facts from creation scientists Roll Eyes

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #5 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:37am

Just as the true believers* don't say global warming much anymore, but climate change, so they don't refer to carbon dioxide much, rather it's just carbon - instant chemical transformation.

*Since the true believers no longer had communism to dedicate their hearts & minds to, the whole climate scenario, with its oscillations between ice ages and heat waves, has been their propaganda battlefield of choice.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide Reply #6 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:55am ____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:06am: Oh sorry a.p, didn't notice your attempt at gaining my attention until now. So are you contacting the majority of climate scientists with your scientific breakthrough? Can you contact them to explain the Holocene?
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Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide
Reply #7 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:01am

Swagman wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:06am:

Oh sorry a.p, didn't notice your attempt at gaining my attention until now.

So are you contacting the majority of climate scientists with your scientific breakthrough?

Can you contact them to explain the Holocene?

No thanks. I trust in their education that gained the qualifications they have, and so the scientific deductions they have derived.

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Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide
Reply #8 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:12am

Stratos wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 7:52am:

Carbon dioxide (Co2) is a trace gas that, by itself, will produce little warming. Also, as carbon dioxide increases, the incremental warming is less, as the effect is logarithmic. Therefore, the more carbon dioxide, the less warming it produces, shattering long-held theories that this naturally occurring gas that is essential for life is the cause of global warming!

Tony Watts

upwiththat.com - the retired TV weatherman
?

... or former model & children's TV hostess - Joanne "Nova"
?

Looks lke Joseph D'Aleo, because everyone should get their facts from creation scientists Roll Eyes

By JOVE !

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Carbon dioxide is a trace gas and by itself will produce little warming. Also, as CO2 increases, the incremental warming is less, as the effect is logarithmic so the more CO2, the less warming it produces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_D%27Aleo#Climate_change

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Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide
Reply #9 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:37am

Ultimately, observation trumps hypothesis every time.
Temperatures have stalled for 18 years now and CO2 concentrations have increased by around 35%. pretending there is a correlation between the two that is linear and that it can be extrapolated has been comprehensively debunked.

You don't have to be a climate scientist to debunk a hypothesis that has failed in its every single facet.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #10 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:45am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Ultimately, observation trumps hypothesis every time.
Temperatures have stalled for 18 years now and CO2 concentrations have increased by around 35%. pretending there is a correlation between the two that is linear and that it can be extrapolated has been comprehensively debunked.

You don't have to be a climate scientist to debunk a hypothesis that has failed in its every single facet.

It's Official ~ 2014 Hottest Year Globally

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420502247

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Reply #11 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:21pm

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:45am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Ultimately, observation trumps hypothesis every time.
Temperatures have stalled for 18 years now and CO2 concentrations have increased by around 35%. pretending there is a correlation between the two that is linear and that it can be extrapolated has been comprehensively debunked.

You don't have to be a climate scientist to debunk a hypothesis that has failed in its every single facet.

It's Official ~ 2014 Hottest Year Globally

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420502247

an unverified source with a date series too large and too imprecise. from what I see it both confirms the 18 year hiatus in warming and makes 2014 at best 0.05 degrees warmer than last which at best is statistically insignificant.

all this is stuff they teach you in high school -- the experience you missed.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide
Reply #12 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:26pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:21pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:45am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Ultimately, observation trumps hypothesis every time.
Temperatures have stalled for 18 years now and CO2 concentrations have increased by around 35%. pretending there is a correlation between the two that is linear and that it can be extrapolated has been comprehensively debunked.

You don't have to be a climate scientist to debunk a hypothesis that has failed in its every single facet.

It's Official ~ 2014 Hottest Year Globally

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420502247

an unverified source with a date series too large and too imprecise. from what I see it both confirms the 18 year hiatus in warming and makes 2014 at best 0.05 degrees warmer than last which at best is statistically insignificant.

all this is stuff they teach you in high school -- the experience you missed.

"Hiatus"

Good to see your back peddling has started.

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Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide
Reply #13 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 2:41pm

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:26pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:21pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:45am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Ultimately, observation trumps hypothesis every time.
Temperatures have stalled for 18 years now and CO2 concentrations have increased by around 35%. pretending there is a correlation between the two that is linear and that it can be extrapolated has been comprehensively debunked.

You don't have to be a climate scientist to debunk a hypothesis that has failed in its every single facet.

It's Official ~ 2014 Hottest Year Globally

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420502247

an unverified source with a date series too large and too imprecise. from what I see it both confirms the 18 year hiatus in warming and makes 2014 at best 0.05 degrees warmer than last which at best is statistically insignificant.

all this is stuff they teach you in high school -- the experience you missed.

"Hiatus"

Good to see your back peddling has started.

hiatus and pause mean the same thing. imagine if you had an education!

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Fact for today - carbon dioxide
Reply #14 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 3:00pm

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:01am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:55am:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:06am:

Oh sorry a.p, didn't notice your attempt at gaining my attention until now.

So are you contacting the majority of climate scientists with your scientific breakthrough?

Can you contact them to explain the Holocene?

No thanks. I trust in their education that gained the qualifications they have, and so the scientific deductions they have derived.

So was the Holocene warming (which we are still in) caused by cavemen's camp fires or Mammoth flatulence or what?

Cheesy

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