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UK muslims for secular democracy on Paris attack
Jan 9^th, 2015 at 12:31pm

A pretty good article debunking some myths.

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What we need is a principled,anti racist critique of muslim fundamentalism that pulls no punches.
(Islam is not a race-BVR)

Not in our name campaigns spearheaded by muslims send out a problematic subliminal message to non muslims that muslims are unwilling to sort out the problems in their own backyard.

There are those who won't even condemn acts of violence and terrorism,but automatically paint the attacks as false flag operations,attempting to reason with these people is a waste of time and energy.

The way forward is to treat each event as a passing accident of horror-
Laissez-faire approaches like these have led us to the predicament we are in,These acts are neither passing nor accidental;they are part of one long atrocity continuum,compounded by mainstream society's cowardice and unwillingness to champion unpopular causes.
leftfootforward.org/2015/01/Charlie-hebdo-dismantling-nine-mistaken-assumptions-...

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: UK muslims for secular democracy on Paris attack
Reply #1 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:06pm

The American Islamic Forum for democracy on the Paris attack
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Aifd condemns in the strongest possible way, the actions that took place in Paris today and send our deepest condolences to the families of those killed or injured.The effects of this despicable action go beyond the streets of Paris,but represent an attack on freedom of speech and human rights of all to live and work-free of fear.

We can no longer continue to be deceived into accepting the lone wolf theory as recent events have clearly exclaimed.The deep and intense ideological invasion within Islam must be thwarted from within the house of Islam.

There is no reason to believe the events of today can be held in isolation but must be considered part and parcel of the world wide terrorist threat from those ideologically radicalised in the name of political islam.Calls for would be combatants to stay in their home location and fight,our very places of work and worship,have come to fruition and demand we accept this new reality with a legitimate response

aifdemocracy.org

I like Dr Jasser he is one of the few honest muslims, when it comes to resolving problems honesty in recognising the problem is the first step.

We have UK muslims for secular democracy,The American Islamic forum for democracy, when are we going to get a group of Aussie muslims for secular democracy or do porcine animals have a greater chance of becoming aerodynamic?

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: UK muslims for secular democracy on Paris attack Reply #2 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:31pm Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:06pm: one of the few honest muslims harsh Baron.
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Reply #3 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:18pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:06pm:

The American Islamic Forum for democracy on the Paris attack
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We can no longer continue to be deceived into accepting the lone wolf theory as recent events have clearly exclaimed.The deep and intense ideological invasion within Islam must be thwarted from within the house of Islam.

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Reply #5 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:59pm

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.............There is no reason to believe the events of today can be held in isolation but must be considered part and parcel of the world wide terrorist threat from those ideologically radicalised in the name of political islam..........

it's entirely from islam.
islam have said 'we cant solve it.'

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Modern Classic Right Wing

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: UK muslims for secular democracy on Paris attack Reply #6 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:23pm Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:52pm: http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4248/4sBqnI.jpg THey can stick their tweets up their shalwar kameezes. Tweeting in not a sufficient response from Islam.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: UK muslims for secular democracy on Paris attack Reply #7 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:49pm damn straight Soren - nothing short of shaving their beards and losing the pyjamas will do.
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Reply #8 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 7:51pm

Soren wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4248/4sBqnI.jpg

THey can stick their tweets up their shalwar kameezes.

Tweeting in not a sufficient response from Islam.

http://thejinnandtonic.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/kick-a-muslim.gif

Mmm, how can "Islam" respond when there is no central authority for the religion, Soren?

Why are tweets considered sufficient response from Government(s) but not Religion(s)? Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: UK muslims for secular democracy on Paris attack
Reply #9 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 8:02pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:06pm:

The American Islamic Forum for democracy on the Paris attack
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Aifd condemns in the strongest possible way, the actions that took place in Paris today and send our deepest condolences to the families of those killed or injured.The effects of this despicable action go beyond the streets of Paris,but represent an attack on freedom of speech and human rights of all to live and work-free of fear.

We can no longer continue to be deceived into accepting the lone wolf theory as recent events have clearly exclaimed.The deep and intense ideological invasion within Islam must be thwarted from within the house of Islam.

There is no reason to believe the events of today can be held in isolation but must be considered part and parcel of the world wide terrorist threat from those ideologically radicalised in the name of political islam.Calls for would be combatants to stay in their home location and fight,our very places of work and worship,have come to fruition and demand we accept this new reality with a legitimate response

aifdemocracy.org

I like Dr Jasser he is one of the few honest muslims, when it comes to resolving problems honesty in recognising the problem is the first step.

We have UK muslims for secular democracy,The American Islamic forum for democracy, when are we going to get a group of Aussie muslims for secular democracy or do porcine animals have a greater chance of becoming aerodynamic?

The further away they are the more they can denounce it...because they have more of a leeway when they are further away...it's not on my doorstep therefore I think it's despicable..it's on my doorstep therefore I have no comment....just muslims doing their thing ...nothing more...

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Reply #10 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 8:45pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

damn straight Soren - nothing short of shaving their beards and losing the pyjamas will do.

Gandy,

You are not a goat f Vcker from Afghanistan or Pakistan or Yemen so you are not at all responsible for what those depraved bastards do in the name of Islam in the Middle East or the Hindu Kush.

You are a Western Muslim - which means that you are responsible, whether you like it or not, for the conduct of other Western Muslims. I hold you responsible because you have been inexcusably neglectful, inactive and irresponsible about murderous Western Muslims in your spheres of life and influence.

The Charlie Hebdo f Vckers are Western Muslims JUST LIKE YOU. Just like you, Gandy.
They were born in France - yet they are enemies of France and civilisation because they side with Islam. These kind of people exist because YOU, a Western Muslim, supposedly all acculturated, all tuned in, have allowed them to exist and continue to allow them to exist.

Gandy, you bear personal responsibility - like every single Western Muslim - for Western Muslim terrorist attacks because you do NOTHING about preventing them.

Bleating victimhood when the Muslims are the shooters is not acceptable. You are the perpetrators, you stop being the perpetrators. You are not victims of anything but Islam.

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Reply #11 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 8:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 7:51pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4248/4sBqnI.jpg

THey can stick their tweets up their shalwar kameezes.

Tweeting in not a sufficient response from Islam.

http://thejinnandtonic.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/kick-a-muslim.gif

Mmm, how can "Islam" respond when there is no central authority for the religion, Soren?

Why are tweets considered sufficient response from Government(s) but not Religion(s)? Roll Eyes

You are irrelevant, Brain, so you may f Vck orf.

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Re: UK muslims for secular democracy on Paris attack
Reply #12 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:06pm

Soren wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 8:45pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

damn straight Soren - nothing short of shaving their beards and losing the pyjamas will do.

Gandy,

You are not a goat f Vcker from Afghanistan or Pakistan or Yemen so you are not at all responsible for what those depraved bastards do in the name of Islam in the Middle East or the Hindu Kush.

You are a Western Muslim - which means that you are responsible, whether you like it or not, for the conduct of other Western Muslims. I hold you responsible because you have been inexcusably neglectful, inactive and irresponsible about murderous Western Muslims in your spheres of life and influence.

The Charlie Hebdo f Vckers are Western Muslims JUST LIKE YOU. Just like you, Gandy.
They were born in France - yet they are enemies of France and civilisation because they side with Islam. These kind of people exist because YOU, a Western Muslim, supposedly all acculturated, all tuned in, have allowed them to exist and continue to allow them to exist.

Gandy, you bear personal responsibility - like every single Western Muslim - for Western Muslim terrorist attacks because you do NOTHING about preventing them.

Bleating victimhood when the Muslims are the shooters is not acceptable. You are the perpetrators, you stop being the perpetrators. You are not victims of anything but Islam.

Soren you never tire of reminding us that the problem with islam in the west is a problem because the west allowed islam to enter the west.

Therefore I hold you personally responsible for not doing anything to stop this invasion, allowing them to run rampant in our society, feeding off our welfare and freely conducting their plots against us.

Thats how it works right?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: UK muslims for secular democracy on Paris attack
Reply #13 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 10:10pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

damn straight Soren - nothing short of shaving their beards and losing the pyjamas will do.

Do you feel exposed walking down the street with that towel around your head & a beard?

Maybe you don't in public & you shave every day to hide your true self?

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21788 A cat with a view	Re: UK muslims for secular democracy on Paris attack Reply #14 - Jan 9^th, 2015 at 11:09pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 6:49pm: damn straight Soren - nothing short of shaving their beards and losing the pyjamas will do. *'ISLAM is peace'* , eh gandalf ? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420803802/3#3
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