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The muslim cop killed in Paris attack
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Killed while defending people's right to mock his religion.

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Thousands were today paying tribute to dead Muslim police officer Ahmed Merabet using the rallying cry 'JeSuisAhmed' after the heroic officer was gunned down in Paris.
The celebration of Mr Merabet, who was killed as he begged for his life by suspected Islamic fanatics, echoes the 'JeSuisCharlie' (I am Charlie) demonstrations that have swept the world in the wake of yesterday's shocking massacre.
His colleagues today said they were in extreme shock after a video of the Charlie Hebdo office attack emerged - showing Mr Merabet on the ground and begging for mercy as he is killed casually executed by a gunshot to the head.


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Mr Merabet was one of 12 people killed in the terrifying attack, including eight journalists at the offices of the French satirical newspaper, two guests, and one other policeman.
Tributes for Mr Merabet continuing pouring in today, with one person writing: 'RIP Ahmed Merabet, French policeman, murdered protecting people in Paris', while Alan Mendoza said: 'Important to note that amid the carnage today a brave Muslim policeman was murdered by those claiming to represent Islam.'
His family have said they wish to bury him at a famous Muslim cemetery in France. Located just north-east of Paris, it is the burial ground of more than 7,000 Muslims.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901681/Hero-police-officer-executed-street-married-42-year-old-Muslim-assigned-patrol-Paris-neighbourhood-Charlie-Hebdo-offices-located.html#ixzz3OI1WpKAx
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Re: The muslim cop killed in Paris attack
Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:19pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:06pm:
Killed while defending people's right to mock his religion.

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Thousands were today paying tribute to dead Muslim police officer Ahmed Merabet using the rallying cry 'JeSuisAhmed' after the heroic officer was gunned down in Paris.
The celebration of Mr Merabet, who was killed as he begged for his life by suspected Islamic fanatics, echoes the 'JeSuisCharlie' (I am Charlie) demonstrations that have swept the world in the wake of yesterday's shocking massacre.
His colleagues today said they were in extreme shock after a video of the Charlie Hebdo office attack emerged - showing Mr Merabet on the ground and begging for mercy as he is killed casually executed by a gunshot to the head.


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Mr Merabet was one of 12 people killed in the terrifying attack, including eight journalists at the offices of the French satirical newspaper, two guests, and one other policeman.
Tributes for Mr Merabet continuing pouring in today, with one person writing: 'RIP Ahmed Merabet, French policeman, murdered protecting people in Paris', while Alan Mendoza said: 'Important to note that amid the carnage today a brave Muslim policeman was murdered by those claiming to represent Islam.'
His family have said they wish to bury him at a famous Muslim cemetery in France. Located just north-east of Paris, it is the burial ground of more than 7,000 Muslims.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901681/Hero-police-officer-executed-street-married-42-year-old-Muslim-assigned-patrol-Paris-neighbourhood-Charlie-Hebdo-offices-located.html#ixzz3OI1WpKAx
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So the religion of the killers can be ignored, but the religion of the dead cop matters?

Tragic what happened to him, but in what way relevant? Did he do anything a non Muslim wouldn't do? Did the killers even know he was a Muslim?
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Re: The muslim cop killed in Paris attack
Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:30pm
 
Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:19pm:
So the religion of the killers can be ignored, but the religion of the dead cop matters?
That is the ingrained victim mentality from Islam, we are the victims not the perpetrators , it helps with propaganda

Tragic what happened to him, but in what way relevant? Did he do anything a non Muslim wouldn't do? Did the killers even know he was a Muslim?
No and No



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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:48pm
 
Its relevant to counter the usual BS we get here that muslims are incapable of being on the side of freedom etc. If it was a simply matter of saying there is a problem of extremism amongst a minority of muslims then I would have nothing to dispute. But I've spent over 2 years here having to defend against charges of collective guilt against muslims.

French muslims have demonstrated in previous surveys they predominantly put themselves as French first and muslims second.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:48pm:
Its relevant to counter the usual BS we get here that muslims are incapable of being on the side of freedom etc. If it was a simply matter of saying there is a problem of extremism amongst a minority of muslims then I would have nothing to dispute. But I've spent over 2 years here having to defend against charges of collective guilt against muslims.

French muslims have demonstrated in previous surveys they predominantly put themselves as French first and muslims second.



The vast majority should reign in the tiny minority.

Verbal condemnation is not enough.




I have not seen spontaneous Muslim demonstration numbering hundreds and thousands across the world in the face of continuous unspeakable atrocities in the name of Islam.  Muslims have no problem organising big rallies for Palestine or a riots across the globe over cartoons or youtube clips.  When will the vast majority finally mobilise tow show where they true loyalties lie.  Confining yourselves to verbal platitudes puts you on the same plane as glib, no-longer-believed politicians.





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Re: The muslim cop killed in Paris attack
Reply #5 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:09pm
 
Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:19pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:06pm:
Killed while defending people's right to mock his religion.

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Thousands were today paying tribute to dead Muslim police officer Ahmed Merabet using the rallying cry 'JeSuisAhmed' after the heroic officer was gunned down in Paris.
The celebration of Mr Merabet, who was killed as he begged for his life by suspected Islamic fanatics, echoes the 'JeSuisCharlie' (I am Charlie) demonstrations that have swept the world in the wake of yesterday's shocking massacre.
His colleagues today said they were in extreme shock after a video of the Charlie Hebdo office attack emerged - showing Mr Merabet on the ground and begging for mercy as he is killed casually executed by a gunshot to the head.


Quote:
Mr Merabet was one of 12 people killed in the terrifying attack, including eight journalists at the offices of the French satirical newspaper, two guests, and one other policeman.
Tributes for Mr Merabet continuing pouring in today, with one person writing: 'RIP Ahmed Merabet, French policeman, murdered protecting people in Paris', while Alan Mendoza said: 'Important to note that amid the carnage today a brave Muslim policeman was murdered by those claiming to represent Islam.'
His family have said they wish to bury him at a famous Muslim cemetery in France. Located just north-east of Paris, it is the burial ground of more than 7,000 Muslims.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901681/Hero-police-officer-executed-street-married-42-year-old-Muslim-assigned-patrol-Paris-neighbourhood-Charlie-Hebdo-offices-located.html#ixzz3OI1WpKAx
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/08/24841F3300000578-2901681-image-m-47_14...


So the religion of the killers can be ignored, but the religion of the dead cop matters?

Tragic what happened to him, but in what way relevant? Did he do anything a non Muslim wouldn't do? Did the killers even know he was a Muslim?


Australiam media frequently referred to him as a Muslim copper
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Reply #6 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:11pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:48pm:
Its relevant to counter the usual BS we get here that muslims are incapable of being on the side of freedom etc. If it was a simply matter of saying there is a problem of extremism amongst a minority of muslims then I would have nothing to dispute. But I've spent over 2 years here having to defend against charges of collective guilt against muslims.

French muslims have demonstrated in previous surveys they predominantly put themselves as French first and muslims second.


Some French policemen are Muslims. That is the only point being made and is hardly surprising. So why is that news now?

*There is no indication that the Muslim terrorist knew they were killing a Muslim policemen.
*There is no indication that this Muslim policemen did anything different to what a non Muslim policeman would do.
*There is no indication that the policeman knew he was being attacked by Muslims (unless he assumed that anyone shooting up the place would be a Muslim, making him a islamophobe for assuming such a thing).
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Reply #7 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:12pm
 
Soren wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:07pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:48pm:
Its relevant to counter the usual BS we get here that muslims are incapable of being on the side of freedom etc. If it was a simply matter of saying there is a problem of extremism amongst a minority of muslims then I would have nothing to dispute. But I've spent over 2 years here having to defend against charges of collective guilt against muslims.

French muslims have demonstrated in previous surveys they predominantly put themselves as French first and muslims second.



The vast majority should reign in the tiny minority.

Verbal condemnation is not enough.




I have not seen spontaneous Muslim demonstration numbering hundreds and thousands across the world in the face of continuous unspeakable atrocities in the name of Islam.  Muslims have no problem organising big rallies for Palestine or a riots across the globe over cartoons or youtube clips.  When will the vast majority finally mobilise tow show where they true loyalties lie.  Confining yourselves to verbal platitudes puts you on the same plane as glib, no-longer-believed politicians.







Were are all the protests from the buddhists around the world who slaughter muslims in burma and mynammar?

Where are all the protests from jews around the world on the slaughter of the palestinians?
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Reply #8 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:14pm
 
Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:11pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:48pm:
Its relevant to counter the usual BS we get here that muslims are incapable of being on the side of freedom etc. If it was a simply matter of saying there is a problem of extremism amongst a minority of muslims then I would have nothing to dispute. But I've spent over 2 years here having to defend against charges of collective guilt against muslims.

French muslims have demonstrated in previous surveys they predominantly put themselves as French first and muslims second.


Some French policemen are Muslims. That is the only point being made and is hardly surprising. So why is that news now?

*There is no indication that the Muslim terrorist knew they were killing a Muslim policemen.
*There is no indication that this Muslim policemen did anything different to what a non Muslim policeman would do.
*There is no indication that the policeman knew he was being attacked by Muslims (unless he assumed that anyone shooting up the place would be a Muslim, making him a islamophobe for assuming such a thing).


Im not sure why it is news, the copper was just doing his job and protecting law and order no matter who is doing it.
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Reply #9 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:14pm
 
They probably would've shot him anyway had they known he was a Muslim because they would've seen him as a traitor.




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Reply #10 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:19pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:09pm:
Quantum wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:19pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:06pm:
Killed while defending people's right to mock his religion.

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Thousands were today paying tribute to dead Muslim police officer Ahmed Merabet using the rallying cry 'JeSuisAhmed' after the heroic officer was gunned down in Paris.
The celebration of Mr Merabet, who was killed as he begged for his life by suspected Islamic fanatics, echoes the 'JeSuisCharlie' (I am Charlie) demonstrations that have swept the world in the wake of yesterday's shocking massacre.
His colleagues today said they were in extreme shock after a video of the Charlie Hebdo office attack emerged - showing Mr Merabet on the ground and begging for mercy as he is killed casually executed by a gunshot to the head.


Quote:
Mr Merabet was one of 12 people killed in the terrifying attack, including eight journalists at the offices of the French satirical newspaper, two guests, and one other policeman.
Tributes for Mr Merabet continuing pouring in today, with one person writing: 'RIP Ahmed Merabet, French policeman, murdered protecting people in Paris', while Alan Mendoza said: 'Important to note that amid the carnage today a brave Muslim policeman was murdered by those claiming to represent Islam.'
His family have said they wish to bury him at a famous Muslim cemetery in France. Located just north-east of Paris, it is the burial ground of more than 7,000 Muslims.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901681/Hero-police-officer-executed-street-married-42-year-old-Muslim-assigned-patrol-Paris-neighbourhood-Charlie-Hebdo-offices-located.html#ixzz3OI1WpKAx
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/08/24841F3300000578-2901681-image-m-47_14...


So the religion of the killers can be ignored, but the religion of the dead cop matters?

Tragic what happened to him, but in what way relevant? Did he do anything a non Muslim wouldn't do? Did the killers even know he was a Muslim?


Australiam media frequently referred to him as a Muslim copper


Hence my point. The religion of the policemen is irrelevant to the events, yet for some reason this is being focused on. Yet, the religion of the terrorist is not to be focused on despite it being fundamentally relevant.
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Reply #11 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:21pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:48pm:
French muslims have demonstrated in previous surveys they predominantly put themselves as French first and muslims second.



What would you expect?
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Reply #12 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:25pm
 
Soren wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:07pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:48pm:
Its relevant to counter the usual BS we get here that muslims are incapable of being on the side of freedom etc. If it was a simply matter of saying there is a problem of extremism amongst a minority of muslims then I would have nothing to dispute. But I've spent over 2 years here having to defend against charges of collective guilt against muslims.

French muslims have demonstrated in previous surveys they predominantly put themselves as French first and muslims second.



The vast majority should reign in the tiny minority.

Verbal condemnation is not enough.




I have not seen spontaneous Muslim demonstration numbering hundreds and thousands across the world in the face of continuous unspeakable atrocities in the name of Islam.  Muslims have no problem organising big rallies for Palestine or a riots across the globe over cartoons or youtube clips.  When will the vast majority finally mobilise tow show where they true loyalties lie.  Confining yourselves to verbal platitudes puts you on the same plane as glib, no-longer-believed politicians.


And as usual Soren is looking with his eyes closed:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/punjab/18-Dec-2014/students-rally-against-peshawar-...

The largest (peaceful) demonstrations in the muslim world in recent years - by far - have been in support for freedom and democracy. Egypt, Tunisia, Iran and of course Iraq. I have mentioned this before and I believe your and FD's response was the flippant "and hows that going for them?" See, in your book muslims can be against freedom or they can support it - it makes no difference, they will be ridiculed either way.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Re: The muslim cop killed in Paris attack
Reply #13 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:27pm
 
HooYAY its FriYAY wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:21pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:48pm:
French muslims have demonstrated in previous surveys they predominantly put themselves as French first and muslims second.



What would you expect?


Would you like to pose that question to say Yadda or FD or sprint?

Not possible, they'll say - must be taqqiya.
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Reply #14 - Jan 9th, 2015 at 3:36pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:25pm:
Soren wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 2:07pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9th, 2015 at 1:48pm:
Its relevant to counter the usual BS we get here that muslims are incapable of being on the side of freedom etc. If it was a simply matter of saying there is a problem of extremism amongst a minority of muslims then I would have nothing to dispute. But I've spent over 2 years here having to defend against charges of collective guilt against muslims.

French muslims have demonstrated in previous surveys they predominantly put themselves as French first and muslims second.



The vast majority should reign in the tiny minority.

Verbal condemnation is not enough.




I have not seen spontaneous Muslim demonstration numbering hundreds and thousands across the world in the face of continuous unspeakable atrocities in the name of Islam.  Muslims have no problem organising big rallies for Palestine or a riots across the globe over cartoons or youtube clips.  When will the vast majority finally mobilise tow show where they true loyalties lie.  Confining yourselves to verbal platitudes puts you on the same plane as glib, no-longer-believed politicians.


And as usual Soren is looking with his eyes closed:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/punjab/18-Dec-2014/students-rally-against-peshawar-...

The largest (peaceful) demonstrations in the muslim world in recent years - by far - have been in support for freedom and democracy. Egypt, Tunisia, Iran and of course Iraq. I have mentioned this before and I believe your and FD's response was the flippant "and hows that going for them?" See, in your book muslims can be against freedom or they can support it - it makes no difference, they will be ridiculed either way.



Any in the West, especially after things like the London beheading, Canadian attacks, Sydney siege, now Paris - no. Because Muslims maintain that Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'. It's a constant stream of ever more brazen Islamic lone wolves.

The French organised vigils across the world within a day because they feels strongly. The Muslims feel faintly miffed about the backlash that never comes.

'I condemn' is glib and perfunctory.





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