Soren you seriously expect any protest by muslims in the west to run into the hundreds of thousands when their populations ranges from around 1-5% of the country?

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:


The old boy is working on a coherent strategy. It’s a work in progress.

Muslim protests don’t count. Nor do Muslim petitions, Muslim reports to police about suspected Muslim terrorists, edicts by Muslim leaders, Muslim youth programs, Muslim community awareness programs, etc, etc, etc.

The only thing that counts is Muslims shaving their beards and becoming Lutherans. Even then they’re still numpties, but this is far preferable to the pyjama-wearing bearded numpties who refuse to reign in the tiny majority by converting to Lutheranism.

No Allah Uakbaring, gents. If you wish to affirm the greatness of Gud, kindly do it in Danish or German.

We wouldn’t want to offend the old boy.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 9^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:



There are millions of Muslims in the West.  Considering the 'vast majority' of Muslims are supposedly freedom loving, free speech enthusiasts who take these things very very seriously indeed, the absence of any meaningful, effective, enthusiastic counter-weight to the 'tiny minority' is conspicuous.

Anyway, I said numbering "hundreds and thousands", not hundreds of thousands.  But your mob cannot meet even that very low threshold, considering what is at stake.

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am I supposed to make a wild guess at what you mean FD?

FD the previous discussion was about how muslims should demonstrate their support for freedom of speech in response to violent threats against it. I, along with the rest of the world who possesses common sense and decency, accept that making a stand saying that violence and threats of violence against freedom of speech is completely unacceptable - is the appropriate response.

Insisting, as you do, that muslims must do nothing short of demand that there be the wholesale rights to mock their religion is simplistic and problematic - because of the fact that much of the material can and does cross the line of racial discrimination. And thats not coming from a whinging muslim, thats Australian law. Just as our own George "people have a right to be bigots" Brandis proudly reassured the Australian public that holocaust denial will continue to be a thought crime under the Racial Discrimination Act, so to there are many islam-mocking cartoons that could fall under the same category. This, as I have explained before, would depend on both the depiction as well as the context in which it was published. Thus the flaw in your argument should be obvious: you insist that muslims must vigorously defend the right to be ridiculed even when such ridicule may violate Australian law - and this, incidentally, is a law that is overwhelmingly endorsed by the Australian public - putting you in the extremist category.

Now as to the muslim policeman, no I don't believe that he deliberately laid down his life in a heroic defense of freedom - any more than the cartoonists did. The cartoonists knew what they were doing was provocative, but I don't think for one minute that they believed they were about to be killed for it. So if we are going to pretend these cartoonists selflessly laid down their lives in defense of freedom and make them martyrs, why not the police who were there to protect them? I mean this muslim cop knew where he was and what he was supposed to be protecting, he could have requested a transfer or conscientiously objected - if he really wanted to. The point to be made though is that this was simply a case of an ordinary muslim happy to do his job properly and not bat an eyelid about an issue you lot constantly assure us muslims are so riled up about. Or in other words, just a normal, full integrated member of society.