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Reply #180 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 11:24am

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 9:06am:

ian wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 6:39am:

. Has anyone seen any Jesus caricatures in a similar vein?

The life of Brian? How many artists and actors were slaughtered in the riots following the release of that movie?

I cant recall them depicting jesus with his arse cheeks wide open asking to be buggered up the arse, can you?

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is it amusing???? did any of those pics raise a laugh???..

Some of them are. Admittedly I do not always get French humour. Cods would you like us to ban it for not being funny? [/quote] if you laughed at any of those "cartoons" you have serious mental health issues. Its not humour, no matter how hard you try and portray it to be.

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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Reply #181 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 11:30am Oh fiddle dee dee a group of silly cartoons. Nowhere near as bad as those muslims in Sydney parading beheading posters
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84691 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Reply #182 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:01pm He's NOT the Messiah - he's just a very naughty boy.
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Phemanderac Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3507 Gender:	Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Reply #183 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:03pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:01pm: He's NOT the Messiah - he's just a very naughty boy. "I'm Brian and so is my wife...."
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Reply #184 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:31pm Im out of this discussion anyway, its dumbing me down too much. Ive had my say, carry on.
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Reply #185 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:38pm

ian wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 11:19am:

yes Fd, a funny picture of Muhammed. Not an extremly offensive cartoon.

What's your point Ian? Are you working on a guidebook for appeasing terrorists? They will let us draw funny cartoons of Muhammed, so long as it doesn't cross over into "extremely offensive"?

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I cant recall them depicting jesus with his arse cheeks wide open asking to be buggered up the arse, can you?

Have you looked? What about piss christ? I am sure you can far more equally offensive anti-Christian stuff. You don't hear about it because Christians don't go on murderous rampages over it. You only heard about Piss Christ because of the attempts to censor it. You only heard about Charlie Hebdo because of the Muslims slaughtering people in the name of Islam. You only heard about Salman Rushdie because of the attempts on his life. Same with the Danish cartoons, that dodgy internet video, and all the rest. If you are seriously arguing that people mock more Islam more than other religions you are deluded. Muslims simply kick up more of a fuss, because opposing freedom of speech is part and parcel of Islam.

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if you laughed at any of those "cartoons" you have serious mental health issues. Its not humour, no matter how hard you try and portray it to be.

Do you think it should be banned Ian?

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Im out of this discussion anyway, its dumbing me down too much. Ive had my say, carry on.

I'm sure it will improve now.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84691 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Reply #186 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 2:40pm Phemanderac wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:03pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:01pm: He's NOT the Messiah - he's just a very naughty boy. "I'm Brian and so is my wife...." "Brian of Nazareth? Free 'em both!"......
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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Reply #187 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:17am Good point, FD, I'd never heard of Charlie Hebdo until 12 people were murdered. What exactly were the terrorists hoping to achieve?
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Reply #188 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 10:33am

They want to scare people into self censorship. It is the pointy end of a broad campaign against freedom of speech, and liberty in general. For example, we also have the OIC (Muslim version of the G20) trying to get the UN to make blasphemy illegal. You get people to give up their rights individually at first, then follow it up with the law, and gradually strip away every right you can think of. Cods, Brian, Gandalf, HB, bb etc are supporting this effort by trying to convince people that self censorship is the appropriate response to these attacks.

There is a fundamental misunderstanding in their logic. They see freedom as a weakness, not a strength. They cannot comprehend how a society functions, and even grows strong, under such a social agreement of tolerance and division. It is the same misunderstanding that has played out over and over again over the last few centuries, and the few times in earlier history where principles of freedom and political inclusiveness have gained a foothold.

It is working to some extent. I think it is the reason Hollywood will not tackle Muhammed, despite the ample material there to work with.

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Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition
Reply #189 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 10:17pm

ian wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 11:24am:

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 9:06am:

ian wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 6:39am:

. Has anyone seen any Jesus caricatures in a similar vein?

The life of Brian? How many artists and actors were slaughtered in the riots following the release of that movie?

I cant recall them depicting jesus with his arse cheeks wide open asking to be buggered up the arse, can you?

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is it amusing???? did any of those pics raise a laugh???..

Some of them are. Admittedly I do not always get French humour. Cods would you like us to ban it for not being funny? [/quote] if you laughed at any of those "cartoons" you have serious mental health issues. Its not humour, no matter how hard you try and portray it to be.

ooops another one not reading what I am writing.. but that ok...

lets see if I can make it real plain for you..

I DONT GIVE A SH1T IF THE CARTOONS ARE PUBLISHED I AM NOT COMPLAINING AT ALL...NO I AM NOT..DID I FIND THOSE I HAVE SEEN AMUSING.. NO I DIDNT.. DID I FIND THEM INSULTING TO A RELIGIOUS PERSON. YES I DID..

gosh do you think he got that???...

GUESS WHAT... A CERTAIN GROUP OF VIOLENT PERSONS...ALSO DIDNT FIND THESE CARTOONS AMUSING... Roll Eyes

AND GUESS WHAT AGIN..

THEY ALSO FOUND THEM INSULTING...

guess what I do not know these other persons...

understood........ good..

DID I GET UPSET BY SAID CARTOONS...... NO I DID NOT.......I AM NOT THAT TYPE....WOULD I HAVE MARCHED UP AND DOWN OUTSIDE CHARLIE JEBDO

no it would not interest me to do that...

ok.. so far are you with me..? good..

HOW EVER OTHER PERSON WHO FELT HUMILIATED BY SAID CARTOONS.....THOUGHT OTHERWISE..THEY DECIDED.. IF YOU DONT STOP PRINTING THEM...
THEN I WILL DO IT FOR YOU..

well no need to mention what happened ... is there????...

ok.. now my part in all of this..... coward that I am..

I have said and still do....they should have stopped printing the cartoon after the death threats...

because I value life and do not think a stupid dumb unamusing but insulting to some cartoon was worth

12 peoples lives...

ok I am wrong.. you all think 12 lives were worth sticking it up to a group of madmen....I dont really care what you think....tell me it all been worth it.. now France is almost in lockdown...bomb threats. and now hacking

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Several French media websites have also gone down following a series of hacking incidents in the wake of recent terror attacks.

I would prefer people to go on with lives without this fear.. because I dont think these madmen have finished...and by the look of France.. neither do they think its over.

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Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition
Reply #190 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 10:36pm

[quote author=freediver link=1420809333/188#188 date=1421368435]They want to scare people into self censorship. It is the pointy end of a broad campaign against freedom of speech, and liberty in general. For example, we also have the OIC (Muslim version of the G20) trying to get the UN to make blasphemy illegal. You get people to give up their rights individually at first, then follow it up with the law, and gradually strip away every right you can think of. Cods, Brian, Gandalf, HB, bb etc are supporting this effort by trying to convince people that self censorship is the appropriate response to these attacks.

There is a fundamental misunderstanding in their logic. They see freedom as a weakness, not a strength. They cannot comprehend how a society functions, and even grows strong, under such a social agreement of tolerance and division. It is the same misunderstanding that has played out over and over again over the last few centuries, and the few times in earlier history where principles of freedom and political inclusiveness have gained a foothold.

It is working to some extent. I think it is the reason Hollywood will not tackle Muhammed, despite the ample material there to work with.[/quote]

i guess it would be fun to watch cinemas getting blown up.... Roll Eyes

another reason to hate and blame the madmen....got nuffink to do with stupid dumb arse people who kick beehives does it???

I love it when some says..

dont do as I do...... DO AS I SAY...

its so fitting on here isnt it?...

what is wrong with calling someone a M*ron???...yet its ok to call them a coward... is that blasphemy...??

which also means disrespectful...

what I am saying is... charlies self censoring would have STOPPED THIS ATTACK..

you liked and prefer the result..

you have made that perfectly clear..

no doubt about you people..

stopping the cartoon..would have insulted you guys...

it would have meant

the end of civilisation.. Roll Eyes

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the end of any hope

we would all be asked to give up our lunch money next

and Hitler would come back and do god only knows what...

Cheesy

amazing what charlie was capable of really...

as they havent silenced the presses I am sure we can look forward to more explosions..

which will keep our "chest beating" folks happy...

well it may keep civilisation going for a bit longer as well... Grin

wouldnt want the to stop that because of a rubbish cartoon would we?

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84691 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Reply #191 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 2:00am Rocketanski wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:17am: Good point, FD, I'd never heard of Charlie Hebdo until 12 people were murdered. What exactly were the terrorists hoping to achieve? Advertising for Charli Hebdo?
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Reply #192 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 2:09am cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 10:17pm: ooops another one not reading what I am writing.. but that ok... It's not always the case of not reading what you write cods. Often its very hard to decifer what exactly you are trying to say in your posts.
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Reply #193 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 5:32am

Thanks Annie - excellent article.
Although he did not mention the "suicide" of the French commissioner who was working on the case. He allegedly killed himself whilst working on his report. The Western press does not mention this. I guess in case it interferes with the official narrative. So much for upholding free speech.

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Reply #194 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 5:43am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 2:09am:

cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

ooops another one not reading what I am writing.. but that ok...

It's not always the case of not reading what you write cods.

Often its very hard to decifer what exactly you are trying to say in your posts.

sorry what are you having trouble with?..

I say the cartoons should have been withdrawn to save all those lives...

I do not see this as FREEDOM OF THE PRESS...it is a dumb ass rude insulting cartoon...

to Taunt a group of angry men who will KILL... just like the angry bees...

why torment them.??? Roll Eyes

and was the result worth it..

apparently mine enemies think those 17 lives were worth it.....as I say from the distance bwave..

what so hard to understand about that?..

I realise when they get a bit long winded... but then so do the others did you comment on them????????

not that I have seen...

andrei I am not defending what the extremist do or have done....I am just living in the real world... and not a James Bond one..

they say what they mean and they mean what they say...

I do not believe the deaths and what is the aftermath was worth the cartoon.......sorry if that offends you.

ask me personally about the cartoon... I couldnt careless not my taste at all.. would never buy the mag.......but I am not talking about ME I am talking about madmen who will carry out their threat..

and besides that I dont get any courage or thrill out of tormenting anyone.

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