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Reply #45 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:15pm

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

I do not see any comparison between terrorism and cyber bullying.. but obviously BO does..

I merely sad a bully is a bully and only the degree varies. I consider terrorists to be bullies, Deadly bullies but bullies none the less. You don't.

I am not comparing internet bullies to terrorists per se. Roll Eyes

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Reply #46 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:16pm

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

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I've always thought cartoonists pushed the envelope a bit sometimes but what is the alternative: say nothing about the elephants and still pretend we are participating in something called democracy?

there are lots of things which cant be published legally in western countries, i dont know where you people get the absurd idea that western countries have freedom of speech. We dont, its just the things which arent allowed to be published differ. This is not about freedom of speech, its about whether you think it is right to be deliberatley offensive to another religion for no other reason than you can. Im fairly sure I can live my life without the need to publically draw caricatures of Mohammed. What about you?

I like the idea. Getting upset when somebody draws something that doesn't exist is a form of insanity. The western world held over a barrel by nutjobs is an insult.

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Reply #47 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:23pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

I do not see any comparison between terrorism and cyber bullying.. but obviously BO does..

I merely sad a bully is a bully and only the degree varies. I consider terrorists to be bullies, Deadly bullies but bullies none the less. You don't.

I am not comparing internet bullies to terrorists per se. Roll Eyes

Nah, no you did not. This is what you said, in attack mode:

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Given your stance on bullies, and how frequently you speak out about it, your attitude towards terrorists is quite surprising.

Totally different concepts given the topic.

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Reply #49 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:54pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:23pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

I do not see any comparison between terrorism and cyber bullying.. but obviously BO does..

I merely sad a bully is a bully and only the degree varies. I consider terrorists to be bullies, Deadly bullies but bullies none the less. You don't.

I am not comparing internet bullies to terrorists per se. Roll Eyes

Nah, no you did not. This is what you said, in attack mode:

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Given your stance on bullies, and how frequently you speak out about it, your attitude towards terrorists is quite surprising.

Totally different concepts given the topic.

I cannot believe how far these lefties JUSTIFY WHY THEY DONT HAVE A GO AGAINST ISLAM AS MUCH AS THEY DO CHRISTIANITY.

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Reply #50 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:57pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:12pm:

I am perfectly calm thanks Cods. If I wasn't I MIGHT TYPE LIKE THIS

So are you saying that the majority of Muslims are offended by caricatures or just the fanatics?

WHERE DID I SAY THAT?..I SAY TERRORIST.,. I DONT KNOW WHO THEY ARE BUT THEY ARE EVERYWHERE..

Let's just say it's the fanatics then. Do you think if we bow and scrape to fanatics that it will appease them and they will stop the killing? I don't believe it will.

WHY DOES BELIEVING IF CARTOONS UPSET SOMEONE IS BOWING AND SCRAPING IF WE STOP DOING THEM?

Actually, AP only took down the Piss Christ image 4 days ago after being accused of double standards by censoring the Charlie Hebdo cartoons but not the Piss Christ.

I can see you are afraid of death threats and terrorists but ignoring them and appeasing them is not going to solve the problem. It is not going to go away by ignoring i

ARE YOU SAYING YOU WOULD NOT BE AFRAID IF IT WAS YOUR FAMILY WAS BEING THREATENED...YOU WOULD HAPPILY MARCH ON...BECAUSE YOU SEE IT AS BOWING AND SCRAPING??

I admire you stance at standing up to these people do you think those cartoon were worth 20 deaths??????..

sorry who is AP.... I havent seen anything on the Piss Christ since it happened...

as you know no one threatened the author of the P.C. with death... but they did damage it and send it packing.....

I seem to remember a hue and cry over something Frank Sinatra said when he was here and the PM threw him out of the country...

we dont threatened death... but???.....

anyway you are for standing up to them and keep drawing cartoons...I guess...

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Reply #51 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:58pm

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

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I've always thought cartoonists pushed the envelope a bit sometimes but what is the alternative: say nothing about the elephants and still pretend we are participating in something called democracy?

there are lots of things which cant be published legally in western countries, i dont know where you people get the absurd idea that western countries have freedom of speech. We dont, its just the things which arent allowed to be published differ. This is not about freedom of speech, its about whether you think it is right to be deliberatley offensive to another religion for no other reason than you can. Im fairly sure I can live my life without the need to publically draw caricatures of Mohammed. What about you?

I thought years ago we all agreed there was no such thing as freedom of speech, atleast in Australia!

People certainly need to express themselves somehow however so it's a never ending saga.

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Reply #52 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:01pm

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

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I've always thought cartoonists pushed the envelope a bit sometimes but what is the alternative: say nothing about the elephants and still pretend we are participating in something called democracy?

there are lots of things which cant be published legally in western countries, i dont know where you people get the absurd idea that western countries have freedom of speech. We dont, its just the things which arent allowed to be published differ. This is not about freedom of speech, its about whether you think it is right to be deliberatley offensive to another religion for no other reason than you can. Im fairly sure I can live my life without the need to publically draw caricatures of Mohammed. What about you?

I like the idea. Getting upset when somebody draws something that doesn't exist is a form of insanity. The western world held over a barrel by nutjobs is an insult.

YOU DONT GET IT DO YOU..

THEY [ THE NUT JOBS] FIND IT INSULTING...

what is so hard to say...

dont lets do it then.. it upsets them..???

why deliberately antagonise..someone with a GUN....

why do that?..for a cartoon..is the world a better place because of those cartoons I doubt it...

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Reply #53 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:06pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

I do not see any comparison between terrorism and cyber bullying.. but obviously BO does..

I merely sad a bully is a bully and only the degree varies. I consider terrorists to be bullies, Deadly bullies but bullies none the less. You don't.

I am not comparing internet bullies to terrorists per se. Roll Eyes

well the difference for me is the terrorist have guns in their hands and murder in their hearts...

and when they make threats they usually carry them out...they pick on simple minded young men who fall for the belief they will save the world and be rewarded...

they dont care about losing their life.. its an honor...

bullies if they had to front someone alone would run and hide...

well you did compare what I have been saying about the bullies on ozpol.. so thats what made me think you could see a comparison..

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Reply #54 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:14pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

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I've always thought cartoonists pushed the envelope a bit sometimes but what is the alternative: say nothing about the elephants and still pretend we are participating in something called democracy?

there are lots of things which cant be published legally in western countries, i dont know where you people get the absurd idea that western countries have freedom of speech. We dont, its just the things which arent allowed to be published differ. This is not about freedom of speech, its about whether you think it is right to be deliberatley offensive to another religion for no other reason than you can. Im fairly sure I can live my life without the need to publically draw caricatures of Mohammed. What about you?

I thought years ago we all agreed there was no such thing as freedom of speech, atleast in Australia!

People certainly need to express themselves somehow however so it's a never ending saga.

not just Australia.. otherwise Julian wouldnt be holed up in London and Snowden in Moscow... Roll Eyes

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Reply #55 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:25pm

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:01pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

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I've always thought cartoonists pushed the envelope a bit sometimes but what is the alternative: say nothing about the elephants and still pretend we are participating in something called democracy?

there are lots of things which cant be published legally in western countries, i dont know where you people get the absurd idea that western countries have freedom of speech. We dont, its just the things which arent allowed to be published differ. This is not about freedom of speech, its about whether you think it is right to be deliberatley offensive to another religion for no other reason than you can. Im fairly sure I can live my life without the need to publically draw caricatures of Mohammed. What about you?

I like the idea. Getting upset when somebody draws something that doesn't exist is a form of insanity. The western world held over a barrel by nutjobs is an insult.

YOU DONT GET IT DO YOU..

THEY [ THE NUT JOBS] FIND IT INSULTING...

what is so hard to say...

dont lets do it then.. it upsets them..???

why deliberately antagonise..someone with a GUN....

why do that?..for a cartoon..is the world a better place because of those cartoons I doubt it...

Wow, I guess the muslims have a resounding victory

TERRORISM CAN ACTUALLY WORK,

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Reply #56 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:30pm

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

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I've always thought cartoonists pushed the envelope a bit sometimes but what is the alternative: say nothing about the elephants and still pretend we are participating in something called democracy?

there are lots of things which cant be published legally in western countries, i dont know where you people get the absurd idea that western countries have freedom of speech. We dont, its just the things which arent allowed to be published differ. This is not about freedom of speech, its about whether you think it is right to be deliberatley offensive to another religion for no other reason than you can. Im fairly sure I can live my life without the need to publically draw caricatures of Mohammed. What about you?

I like the idea. Getting upset when somebody draws something that doesn't exist is a form of insanity. The western world held over a barrel by nutjobs is an insult.

Im not getting "held over" Were you planning yourself to publish caricatures of Mohammed? All religion is a form of insanity. Not the point.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Post a Charli cartoon here... competition Reply #57 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:31pm stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:25pm: Wow, I guess the muslims have a resounding victory TERRORISM CAN ACTUALLY WORK, of course it works, its got every rightie in Australia quivering in their panties, just like you.
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Reply #58 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:28pm

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 4:21pm:

Dmitry K. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

In addition,

The French word terrorisme in turn derives from the Latin verb terreō meaning "I frighten".

That means "tiger poking" does not feed terrorism. Your fear is the thing terrorists like and use over and over again.

why would not drawing a picture prove you are frightened?

its a fact.... some folks do not take kindly to being ridiculed.....and to do under the guise of freedom of speech...is not doing freedom of speech justice at all..

you are afraid it will make you look afraid if you say stop drawing the cartoons...

I say it shows respect for the other person....

and you tell me whats wrong with showing respect??.

to myway of thinking there isnt enough respect in this world.

I really try to show respect to people no matter what kind of groups they belong to. But I cannot show respect under the presser. It sounds like "show me respect or I will kill you".

No one sent personal email with cartoons to them. If they do not like cartoons they can include this publisher into personal black list. No big deal.

You do not visit websites you don not like, do you? Do not you think that "show me respect" is just a pretext to express one's self-conceit which has nothing to do with real insult?

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Reply #59 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:36pm

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:31pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:25pm:

Wow, I guess the muslims have a resounding victory

TERRORISM CAN ACTUALLY WORK,

of course it works, its got every rightie in Australia quivering in their panties, just like you.

Really, I think the issue really is the cowardice of the left, the terrorists are seeing that and cant believe there LUCK

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