|dev|null wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:


Hello turd burglar who have you been up lately.

Not really interested, as a person of your sexual predilection would be dead by now if they had gone to fight for the cause!

To put your best bum forward return to Afghanistan, become a "bacha baz"

Follow the sordid trail.

"For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers." (adamant reckons the term should be BUM CHUMS)

That's Muslim men, because the infestation has been there for centuries.

"Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home."

Are you a "leering middle aged man"? Have you taken them home?

"So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?"

Is it cause muslims are the most perverted of peoples?

Only a person such as yourself could answer the above, Hot Trollop!

Soren, the scholarship is greatly important - not least of all to you and your kind. You lot would never pass up the opportunity to pull out some 'scholarship' by whichever nutter you can find that supposedly gives some doctrinal basis to the latest terrorist atrocity. Baron's sole purpose here seems to be to pose rhetorical questions about the scholarly authority of the Islam QA guy, and "prove" the doctrinal basis of terrorism using him as his main source.

So how do you deal with the mountains of scholarly work arguing againt a doctrinal basis for terrorism? The techniques here are interesting: FD doesn't bother to read it but calls them liars anyway, while Baron points to the mere existence of such scholarship as proof of islam's inherent violence (something like 'if islam is so peaceful, why the need for a 600 page fatwa' - yeah, go figure). When all else fails, there's always the good ol trusty 'taqqiya' response.

Basically Soren, if you dismiss the scholarship - as you seem to want to do here - then I'm afraid you have pledged yourself firmly into the "islam nuffin to do wiv nuffin' camp. How ironic eh? Otherwise, if you insist its all down to islam, then you either concede that terrorists don't follow islam, or you be a hypocrite and cite only one side of the story - like all the hypocrites here.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 10:07pm:



The scholarship is entirely about the interpretation of the Koran, treated as the final, unalterable revelation of an unknowable god.

But if the starting premise is completely non-scholarly - what then? What weight should be given to the most elaborate scholarship that is based on a completely assumption or even deluded superstition?
What if Mohammed was not a prophet and the Koran is a collection of incoherent ramblings?
WHat if there is  no Allah?

All the scholarship collapses.

|dev|null wrote on Jan 30^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:



Excellent point. Yet that's what Muslims believe.

how we can best stop it happening in the future???


You will never stop it happening in the future, it's as simple as that.

islam, allah, muhammad and the qur'an, all unequivocally instruct the use of rape, terrorism, torture and mass murder as sacred deeds for muslims.

muslims must declare the teachings which incite the islamic rape, torture, terrorism and mass murder as evil, wrong, not fit for modern 21st century civilization.

However muslims and their apologists are bending over backwards, desperately trying to avoid islam / muslims taking responsibility for what it / they have become after 1400 years. (they will not accept the guilt of islam and muslims)

Consequently the lies of the muslims and their apologists are slowly but surely pushing us towards an horrendous conflict.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 30^th, 2015 at 5:21pm:

Gandy, I think you are missing the point - and I do not mean to be personally harsh to you about this:
Islam is entirely bogus  - it's premise, the authority of Mohammed, the idea of final perfect revelation, the the entire shambolic, resentment-filled  mish-mash of Judaism and Christianity - and so no amount of painstaking and consistent scholarship based on these premises, nor any other unscholarly deviations from these premises, can give it credibility.
Islamic  scholars may be impeccably logical - Islam is super-rational and so they are likely to be  - as long as the Koranic and hadith foundations are accepted as true.

If they are not accepted as such, the scholarship is mere elaborate macrame. Considering the pretty nasty assumptions at its heart, about man and god, that macrame is only occasionally and slightly lovely.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 30^th, 2015 at 6:56pm:




Mainstream Islam is extreme - see Pakistan, Saudi, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Labia, Nigeria, Malaysia, Indonesia, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Algeria, Egypt, Mauritania, Somalia, Yemen, Qatar, etc, etc.  All mainstream Islam. Muslims are leaving them for:

Sweden, Denmark, Holland, Switzerland, Canada, Australia, Austria, England, Ireland, New Zealand, Germany, France etc. 


The difference is startlingly obvious.

Adamant wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 8:44pm:


Showing your homophobia, Adam/Matty/Anti-Anthrax?  Tsk, tsk.  I am surprised that Gandalf has allowed such a personal attack to stand.