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Reply #30 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:24am
 
Soren wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:47am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:20am:
Now now, that’s a bit harsh. The old boy only ridicules the Muselman, bearded numpties, PBs, dirty little inverts, the tinted races, the yellow races, and their spineless appeasers. Remind me if I’ve left anybody out.

People who worship carpenters are okay. The old boy likes to pretend he stands with Charlie, but he only stands with the cartoons about the Muselman. The ones about priests, Jews, hommersexuals, etc, are offensive to decent people everywhere.



Thank you, ijit, you miss the point as always.  You can disagree with Charlie as much s you like - verbally or in writing. Clash of IDEAS is ok and is to be encouraged. On that level, nobody has the right not to be offended,  You need to do your own turning away from what you do not like. Don't buy Charlie, don't listen to the Grens, ddon't go to catch the fire gatherings, don't read bolt. Easy.

But there is no room for violence, thereat of violence or lawfare to protect the honour of religion or a prophet or god.

Do you see the difference between using your words to disagree or using weapons or the courts to retalate and silence.



One of the Charlie editors who was wounded lashed out at all the French hypocrites who regularly complained about Charlie. Charlie had been the target of old boy complaints for years. After the shoot-up, they're all Charlie.

As the Australian Discrimination Commissioner (and former IPA stooge) said yesterday, he'd rather see Charlie go out of business than silenced by the Muselman. Charlie has always been a thorn in the side of French old dears, and what better a solution than to let the free market take it out?

Clash of civilizations, innit. Neoliberalism versus faatwas and assassinations.

You're right - no one did shut it down, and no one except the Muselman shot it up. But it's a tad hypocritical for people be all Charlie now when they've called for it to be banned in the past.

You might not go around shooting people you disagree with, old boy, but you reserve your right to be offended on a daily basis. The proof of this is your regular and consistent offence. Your support of Charlie is conditional on its characterisation of Muhammed. You're not pro-free speech, you're simply anti-Muselman. 

As every schoolboy knows.
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Re: Germany: yet more Muslims attack over cartoons
Reply #31 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:26am
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:24am:
You're not pro-free speech, you're simply anti-Muselman. 

As every schoolboy knows.

correct.
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Reply #32 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:37am
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:24am:
You're not pro-free speech, you're simply anti-Muselman. 

As every schoolboy knows.


Spot on!   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Germany: yet more Muslims attack over cartoons
Reply #33 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 1:02pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 10:23pm:
Soren wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:51pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 11th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Yes Gandalf, I am sure they will be flooding in soon enough. Just like the reprisal attacks that forced decent white people to ride in the same train carriages as Muslims after the Sydney hostage murders.

After all, Muslims are always the victims.


So FD a German paper that gets firebombed is a victim, but a French mosque that gets firebombed is not?


Correct.

Jihad comes from mosques.


Stop the jihadis among you, Gandy, and your mosques will not be held responsible for them.


The 'vast majority' is responsible for the 'tiny minority' in its midst. You chafe at the bit but that's how it is. 








On the other hand, we could stop the bigots among us, and the satirists who abuse and ridicule a main stream faith some people strangely seem to hold very dear.


Aussie how do you propose we stop the satirists in order to appease the terrorists?

ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:55am:
Soren wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:47am:
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Thank you, ijit, you miss the point as always.  You can disagree with Charlie as much s you like - verbally or in writing. Clash of IDEAS is ok and is to be encouraged. On that level, nobody has the right not to be offended,  You need to do your own turning away from what you do not like. Don't buy Charlie, don't listen to the Grens, ddon't go to catch the fire gatherings, don't read bolt. Easy.

But there is no room for violence, thereat of violence or lawfare to protect the honour of religion or a prophet or god.

Do you see the difference between using your words to disagree or using weapons or the courts to retalate and silence.








let me ask the question, if that magazine was a legal pro Nambla publication printing nude pictures of kiddies would you feel the same way?


Good point Ian. The Koran does, after all, promote sex with children. But they will chop your head off if you draw a picture of Muhammed having sex with his child bride.
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Re: Germany: yet more Muslims attack over cartoons
Reply #34 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 1:56pm
 
FD, after all, is about to post the Koran quote that promotes sex with children.

Google: Taqiyya.
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Reply #35 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:21pm
 
ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:55am:
printing nude pictures of kiddies



Not legal.

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Reply #36 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:34pm
 
Soren wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:21pm:
ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:55am:
printing nude pictures of kiddies



Not legal.



That's strange. FD just said promoting sex with children is in a legal book called the Koran.

Shurely shome mishtake, eh?
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Re: Germany: yet more Muslims attack over cartoons
Reply #37 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 3:40pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 1:56pm:
FD, after all, is about to post the Koran quote that promotes sex with children.


Even better - he's going to claim Abu said it.
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Re: Germany: yet more Muslims attack over cartoons
Reply #38 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 3:54pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 1:56pm:
FD, after all, is about to post the Koran quote that promotes sex with children.


Even better - he's going to claim Abu said it.


That means you'll have to agree. Sorry, G, you asked for this.
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Reply #39 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 4:55pm
 
Soren wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:21pm:
ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:55am:
printing nude pictures of kiddies



Not legal.

incorrect. no law against it. Now answer the question.
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Reply #40 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:02pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:24am:
You might not go around shooting people you disagree with, old boy, but you reserve your right to be offended on a daily basis. The proof of this is your regular and consistent offence. Your support of Charlie is conditional on its characterisation of Muhammed. You're not pro-free speech, you're simply anti-Muselman. 

As every schoolboy knows.



Bollocks on stilts, PB, and you know it.  I have never once told anyone that they do not have the right to say or think what they do.  Telling them - you - that you are ijits is not shutting you up.


I wouldn't have posted this otherwise: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421097021/39#39
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Re: Germany: yet more Muslims attack over cartoons
Reply #41 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:11pm
 
ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 4:55pm:
Soren wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 2:21pm:
ian wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 10:55am:
printing nude pictures of kiddies



Not legal.

incorrect. no law against it. Now answer the question.




Thank you ijit, you may be seated.


And read on:
http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/publications.nsf/key/childpornogr...

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Re: Germany: yet more Muslims attack over cartoons
Reply #42 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:31pm
 
Soren wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:24am:
You might not go around shooting people you disagree with, old boy, but you reserve your right to be offended on a daily basis. The proof of this is your regular and consistent offence. Your support of Charlie is conditional on its characterisation of Muhammed. You're not pro-free speech, you're simply anti-Muselman. 

As every schoolboy knows.



Bollocks on stilts, PB, and you know it.  I have never once told anyone that they do not have the right to say or think what they do.  Telling them - you - that you are ijits is not shutting you up.


I wouldn't have posted this otherwise: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421097021/39#39


You didn’t write that, you just wrote, "just so".

The only reason you come out against Holocaust denial is you support the Joos in their campaign against the Muselman. You’ve simply formed a convenient alliance, and you know it.

Every position of yours is an anti-position, every comment here a war. The only thing you stand for is your sole right to be offended. You cannot possibly not be offended. Your very purpose is to be offended.

This is so patently obvious to all, your denial makes you out to be a naughty little shrieker.

You don’t need to admit this, it’s the bleedingly obvious, as every schoolboy knows.

You may be seated.
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Re: Germany: yet more Muslims attack over cartoons
Reply #43 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:57pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:31pm:
Soren wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:24am:
You might not go around shooting people you disagree with, old boy, but you reserve your right to be offended on a daily basis. The proof of this is your regular and consistent offence. Your support of Charlie is conditional on its characterisation of Muhammed. You're not pro-free speech, you're simply anti-Muselman. 

As every schoolboy knows.



Bollocks on stilts, PB, and you know it.  I have never once told anyone that they do not have the right to say or think what they do.  Telling them - you - that you are ijits is not shutting you up.


I wouldn't have posted this otherwise: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421097021/39#39


You didn’t write that, you just wrote, "just so".

The only reason you come out against Holocaust denial is you support the Joos in their campaign against the Muselman. You’ve simply formed a convenient alliance, and you know it.

Every position of yours is an anti-position, every comment here a war. The only thing you stand for is your sole right to be offended. You cannot possibly not be offended. Your very purpose is to be offended.

This is so patently obvious to all, your denial makes you out to be a naughty little shrieker.

You don’t need to admit this, it’s the bleedingly obvious, as every schoolboy knows.

You may be seated.



You are invited to present a post from me where I said or even implied that it my right to be sheltered from that which may offend me (ie that I have the right not be offended) which of course is not the same as the 'right' to be offended (which is not really a right but a spontaneous response, like finding something ugly).

I do not know whether you really don't understand or just playing Silly PBs again.


Re. "Every position of yours is an anti-position" - I am 'anti' like the iconoclasts of the 60s were 'anti'. In our progressive, multi-culti PC times, I am the counter-culture, PB.






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Re: Germany: yet more Muslims attack over cartoons
Reply #44 - Jan 14th, 2015 at 8:10pm
 
Soren wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 7:31pm:
Soren wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 6:02pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 14th, 2015 at 11:24am:
You might not go around shooting people you disagree with, old boy, but you reserve your right to be offended on a daily basis. The proof of this is your regular and consistent offence. Your support of Charlie is conditional on its characterisation of Muhammed. You're not pro-free speech, you're simply anti-Muselman. 

As every schoolboy knows.



Bollocks on stilts, PB, and you know it.  I have never once told anyone that they do not have the right to say or think what they do.  Telling them - you - that you are ijits is not shutting you up.


I wouldn't have posted this otherwise: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421097021/39#39


You didn’t write that, you just wrote, "just so".

The only reason you come out against Holocaust denial is you support the Joos in their campaign against the Muselman. You’ve simply formed a convenient alliance, and you know it.

Every position of yours is an anti-position, every comment here a war. The only thing you stand for is your sole right to be offended. You cannot possibly not be offended. Your very purpose is to be offended.

This is so patently obvious to all, your denial makes you out to be a naughty little shrieker.

You don’t need to admit this, it’s the bleedingly obvious, as every schoolboy knows.

You may be seated.



You are invited to present a post from me where I said or even implied that it my right to be sheltered from that which may offend me (ie that I have the right not be offended) which of course is not the same as the 'right' to be offended (which is not really a right but a spontaneous response, like finding something ugly).


Thanks for the explanation, old boy. Most helpful.
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