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Reply #120 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 6:10pm

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:57pm:

They deliberately set out to offend Muslims by publishing the most offensive caricatures they could about Islam. Methinks there is an agenda, but then Im not as smart as you gizmo.

So? Why is Islam exempt? Nazism, Scientology, Christianity, any religion, your pompousness are not exempt - why is Islam exempt? Because Muslims are violent. But that doesn't make Islam off limits. It just makes mocking Islam dangerous because Muslims are liable to kill you. Muslims make it dangerous, not the cartoonists.

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Reply #122 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 6:57pm

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:06am:

Just a point here...When Monty Python came out and satirised Christ , did the Christian World rise up and destroy the BBC?

I don't so Tim

So? I have an aquaintance whom is seriously overweight, I dont disparage fat people or make jokes about his weight, thats because I know he doesnt like it and I respect it. I dont see this issue any differently. Muslims find caricatures of their prophet extremely disrespectful, the French journalists involved were deliberately provocative in my opinion.

provocative... and the penalty for that should be a strongly worded email or a phone call or 20 protestors waving handmade placards.

Being provocative is what writers and cartoonists are meant to be - except in North Korea.

who cares? dont make caricatures of a religious figure knowing that you are going to greatly offend them for no other reason than you can. See how easy it is? Just involves a little respect for your fellow man, of course you dont understand that.

Why? & BS ... it's done to every other religious & political group in every country ...... Why are Muslims to be afforded the exemption?

And don't crap on about the violent reactions ......

because that only goes to prove the point that it's not a religion of peace & it's followers who take the violent action are no better than barbarians.

It's about time every western country that has welcomed them & given them refuge from so called persecution(from their own Muslim brothers of another sect) drew a line in the sand & said "any more & there will be wholesale deportations of families & their descendants who follow extreme fundamental Islam. If you protest & call for Sharia Law in your adopted country ... then on the plane ... if you are a hate preacher ... on a plane. Too bad if you're a home grown version .... which ever country you pledge allegiance to that's where you go. If you don't swear allegiance to your adopted country then your are in breach of the constitution & must leave. If you swear it & are proven to breach that promise then tat tah. So called Church never comes before State.

You, or family have left despotic Muslim hell holes where you were supposedly persecuted ... do not try & turn your adopted country into the same shyte hole you left.

It is your responsibility to adapt to your adopted country .................

not them to your delusional ideology.

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Reply #123 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:55pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 4:40pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 3:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 2:47pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:57pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:03pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:41pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:14pm:

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Oh, and this is about the very essence of 'freedom of speech'...

no its not. If it was then all the internet heroes sounding off here would be doing it in public.

No it's about the magazine having the 'freedom of speech' to publish something that some people might disagree with...

thats not what the magazine did, try again.

No?? what did they do then, (apart from publishing cartoons that offended Muslims)????

better, nearly got it. They deliberately set out to offend Muslims by publishing the most offensive caricatures they could about Islam. Methinks there is an agenda, but then Im not as smart as you gizmo.

garbage. by general standards of 'offensive' they were exceedingly lame. And no, you are NOT as smart as gizmo.

lol, you havent seen the cartoons have you? I can read you like a book. Go and have a look then come back and discuss.

it actually doesn't matter. after what they did, the cover could have Mohammed screwing a pig and it would still be lame.

you are quite the apologist for islam at the moment and actually defending this action.

Must be hell in that head of yours.

yes. knew you hadnt seen the cartoons. So you lied when you said you had and they werent offensive. Is that what your church teaches?

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Reply #124 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:57pm

Soren wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:57pm:

They deliberately set out to offend Muslims by publishing the most offensive caricatures they could about Islam. Methinks there is an agenda, but then Im not as smart as you gizmo.

So? Why is Islam exempt? Nazism, Scientology, Christianity, any religion, your pompousness are not exempt - why is Islam exempt? Because Muslims are violent. But that doesn't make Islam off limits. It just makes mocking Islam dangerous because Muslims are liable to kill you. Muslims make it dangerous, not the cartoonists.

islam isnt exempt, the only issue is with the caricatures of Mohammed.

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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: we are Charlie? .. BS cowards.. >:( Reply #125 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm Ian's just scared.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: we are Charlie? .. BS cowards.. >:( Reply #126 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 4:40pm: you are quite the apologist for islam at the moment and actually defending this action. Must be hell in that head of yours. nah, i just happen to know a lot more about this than you. Business as usual
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Reply #127 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:02pm

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:57pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:57pm:

They deliberately set out to offend Muslims by publishing the most offensive caricatures they could about Islam. Methinks there is an agenda, but then Im not as smart as you gizmo.

What do you think of those beheading posters paraded around in Sydney when those cops got bashed?

So? Why is Islam exempt? Nazism, Scientology, Christianity, any religion, your pompousness are not exempt - why is Islam exempt? Because Muslims are violent. But that doesn't make Islam off limits. It just makes mocking Islam dangerous because Muslims are liable to kill you. Muslims make it dangerous, not the cartoonists.

islam isnt exempt, the only issue is with the caricatures of Mohammed.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: we are Charlie? .. BS cowards.. >:( Reply #128 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm: Ian's just scared. In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: we are Charlie? .. BS cowards.. >:( Reply #129 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:11pm Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm: Ian's just scared. You trying to get him to go fight the war for ya? Righty is defined by this act alone!!!
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Reply #130 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:21pm

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:57pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:57pm:

They deliberately set out to offend Muslims by publishing the most offensive caricatures they could about Islam. Methinks there is an agenda, but then Im not as smart as you gizmo.

So? Why is Islam exempt? Nazism, Scientology, Christianity, any religion, your pompousness are not exempt - why is Islam exempt? Because Muslims are violent. But that doesn't make Islam off limits. It just makes mocking Islam dangerous because Muslims are liable to kill you. Muslims make it dangerous, not the cartoonists.

islam isnt exempt, the only issue is with the caricatures of Mohammed.

Why? ...the Pythons took the piss out of Christ via video in their skits .... & even the movie Life of Brian.

And Christianity in The Meaning of Life.

And how about the "Piss Christ" photgraph?

Who get killed over that?

Bloody apologists & defenders of the indefensible. Roll Eyes

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Reply #131 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:23pm

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Ian's just scared. Cry

In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.

The fascist blue-blooded planet accountants want lefty to go fight for them. This is the simplistic left versus right paradigm defined to exactness.

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Reply #132 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35pm

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Ian's just scared. Cry

In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.

Ian, I think you are mistaking fear for anger and disgust..

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Reply #133 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:46pm

Gnads wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:21pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:57pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:57pm:

They deliberately set out to offend Muslims by publishing the most offensive caricatures they could about Islam. Methinks there is an agenda, but then Im not as smart as you gizmo.

So? Why is Islam exempt? Nazism, Scientology, Christianity, any religion, your pompousness are not exempt - why is Islam exempt? Because Muslims are violent. But that doesn't make Islam off limits. It just makes mocking Islam dangerous because Muslims are liable to kill you. Muslims make it dangerous, not the cartoonists.

islam isnt exempt, the only issue is with the caricatures of Mohammed.

Why? ...the Pythons took the piss out of Christ via video in their skits .... & even the movie Life of Brian.

And Christianity in The Meaning of Life.

And how about the "Piss Christ" photgraph?

Who get killed over that?

Bloody apologists & defenders of the indefensible. Roll Eyes

to be quite honest, i dont care why they find caricatures of Mohammed most offensive, i just know that they do. And so did the murdered journalists. I also dont care what the religion is, if adherents of a particular faith find something particularly offensive then i dont see why one would deliberately offend. On a personal level i do not set out to deliberately offend others beliefs and this approach has served me well in life, despite me disliking most human beings i can still manage to treat them with basic respect.. I also dont own a magazine with falling circulation.

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