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Reply #150 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:31am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 4:15am:

"The Moroccan-born mayor of Rotterdam has said Muslim immigrants who do not appreciate the way of life in Western civilisations can 'bugger off'.

Ahmed Aboutaleb, who arrived in the Netherlands aged 15, spoke out in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris last week.

Appearing on live television just hours after the shootings, Mayor Aboutaleb said Muslims who 'do not like freedom can pack your bags and leave'.

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this is the only place real change can come from. kudos

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Reply #151 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:40am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Ian's just scared. Cry

In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.

Ian, I think you are mistaking fear for anger and disgust..

disgust at WHAT exactly?

the fact that some of us consider 12 lives a high price to pay for a cartoon??

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Reply #152 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:48am

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 9:34pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 9:24pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 9:01pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:48pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Ian's just scared. Cry

In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.

Ian, I think you are mistaking fear for anger and disgust..

not at all, I have plenty of anger and disgust for my fellow human beings, in spades.

I gathered that. Anger is just a symptom of fear. I understand now why you think muslims are going to bash your door down and behead you.

Projection again? Is that all you got? Its transparent that you are the one who is fearful, half your posts towards me are attacking me for not being scared of Muslims and the other half are accusing me of being too scared. Which is it rocket boy?

Of course I get scared at times. Fear is a great motivator. Everybody gets scared. I don't sit up at night worry about terrorists like you though.

you must be pretty young rocky....

there are about 3 of us who believe 12 people have paid the ultimate PRICE for a cartoon...

not because we are afraid... but because we consider it STUPID....

if I thought my life was in danger or that of others...that we couldnt walk the streets because someone hated our guts.....

all over a cartoon...

I know what I would do..

you guys would keep printing the cartoon...and risking life...............but for WHAT I for one cannot see..

what possible pleasure is there in that cartoon.....

that would make you hang on to it.....and risk all those lives for it???

I understand greed and I understand if those cartoons...were worth billions.....even then

I would have burned them rather than risk 12 lives....

it all depends where you pout life on your scale of priorities I guess...........

dont forget we are talking France not the suburb you live in.

no one wants to see it from it being in their own backyard

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Reply #153 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:25am

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Ian's just scared. Cry

In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.

Ian, I think you are mistaking fear for anger and disgust..

disgust at WHAT exactly?

the fact that some of us consider 12 lives a high price to pay for a cartoon??

Disgust at the idea that anyone would consider committing murder over a cartoon.

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Reply #154 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:35am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 4:15am:

"The Moroccan-born mayor of Rotterdam has said Muslim immigrants who do not appreciate the way of life in Western civilisations can 'bugger off'.

Ahmed Aboutaleb, who arrived in the Netherlands aged 15, spoke out in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris last week.

Appearing on live television just hours after the shootings, Mayor Aboutaleb said Muslims who 'do not like freedom can pack your bags and leave'.

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and that's what we need to see more of. of course the terrorists will just shoot him. These creeps have shown they are quite happy to kill other muslims for minor reasons or even no reason at all.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #155 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:09am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Ian's just scared. Cry

In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.

Ian, I think you are mistaking fear for anger and disgust..

disgust at WHAT exactly?

the fact that some of us consider 12 lives a high price to pay for a cartoon??

Disgust at the idea that anyone would consider committing murder over a cartoon.

oh I see.....well the facts are... this company was warned of the consequences and they chose the consequences....

that is basically what I am talking about... was it a god idea to keep printing the cartoons?? was the consequences worth it???>..

everyone keeps turning this into a personal thing....

its the actions of the magazine and the end result that matters.....

sadly quite a lot on here think they should keep inflaming the tiger.....its all about principles you see.

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Reply #156 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:19am

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Ian's just scared. Cry

In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.

Ian, I think you are mistaking fear for anger and disgust..

disgust at WHAT exactly?

the fact that some of us consider 12 lives a high price to pay for a cartoon??

Disgust at the idea that anyone would consider committing murder over a cartoon.

oh I see.....well the facts are... this company was warned of the consequences and they chose the consequences....

The consequences were illegal.

What they were doing, was not illegal.

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Reply #157 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:21am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 4:15am:

"The Moroccan-born mayor of Rotterdam has said Muslim immigrants who do not appreciate the way of life in Western civilisations can 'bugger off'.

Ahmed Aboutaleb, who arrived in the Netherlands aged 15, spoke out in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris last week.

Appearing on live television just hours after the shootings, Mayor Aboutaleb said Muslims who 'do not like freedom can pack your bags and leave'.

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and that's what we need to see more of. of course the terrorists will just shoot him. These creeps have shown they are quite happy to kill other muslims for minor reasons or even no reason at all.

what or whom do you think they are killing in Syria????....

what is so difficult in understanding you/we are dealing with complete unreasonableness...

there is no sense to what or why they do what they do..

we just have to understand/accept THEY DO...and when they say they will kill you.. they mean it..

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Reply #159 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:57am

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Ian's just scared. Cry

In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.

Ian, I think you are mistaking fear for anger and disgust..

disgust at WHAT exactly?

the fact that some of us consider 12 lives a high price to pay for a cartoon??

Disgust at the idea that anyone would consider committing murder over a cartoon.

oh I see.....well the facts are... this company was warned of the consequences and they chose the consequences....

that is basically what I am talking about... was it a god idea to keep printing the cartoons?? was the consequences worth it???>..

everyone keeps turning this into a personal thing....

its the actions of the magazine and the end result that matters.....

sadly quite a lot on here think they should keep inflaming the tiger.....its all about principles you see.

If it wasn't the magazine it would have been someone else, they have a very long list, the armed forces are on the list too, should we ban them as well? Roll Eyes

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Reply #160 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:19am:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Ian's just scared. Cry

In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.

Ian, I think you are mistaking fear for anger and disgust..

disgust at WHAT exactly?

the fact that some of us consider 12 lives a high price to pay for a cartoon??

Disgust at the idea that anyone would consider committing murder over a cartoon.

oh I see.....well the facts are... this company was warned of the consequences and they chose the consequences....

The consequences were illegal.

What they were doing, was not illegal.

greg.. terrorist dont give a F about legal they dont a F about whats right or wrong....

that is the point....they give a F for your rights or your beliefs its all about what they want...

and in this case they wanted the cartoons to stop...

and had it been my choice I would have stopped the cartoons....I prefer people to sleep well and work in safe conditions...not hard

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Reply #162 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:11am

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:57am:

If it wasn't the magazine it would have been someone else, they have a very long list, the armed forces are on the list too, should we ban them as well

as you say the ARMED.... the magazine staff were not armed....didnt stand a chance...

this is about a CARTOON.... if other magazines are still printing this type of CARTOON then they need to take a good look at responsibility and what it means....

this isnt about freedom fighting.....this is about being stupid.....kicking a mad beehive.......would you do it???...

if you found someone on the footpath dead from beestings because he kicked the angry beehive........would you feel sorry for him....and kick the beehive as well????.........would you?...

me I would walk away and think what ever made him kick them and make them angrier?? what good did it do him .. he is now dead..

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Reply #163 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:18am

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:25am:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:35pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 7:58pm:

Ian's just scared. Cry

In my experience the scared ones are usually doing all the huffing and puffing , bit like you and your buddies. Anyway, fear can be a good thing, wish i had a bit more of it.

Ian, I think you are mistaking fear for anger and disgust..

disgust at WHAT exactly?

the fact that some of us consider 12 lives a high price to pay for a cartoon??

Disgust at the idea that anyone would consider committing murder over a cartoon.

oh I see.....well the facts are... this company was warned of the consequences and they chose the consequences....

that is basically what I am talking about... was it a god idea to keep printing the cartoons?? was the consequences worth it???>..

everyone keeps turning this into a personal thing....

its the actions of the magazine and the end result that matters.....

sadly quite a lot on here think they should keep inflaming the tiger.....its all about principles you see.

Perhaps, like most normal people, the staff at the magazine didn't think anyone would be pathetic enough to actually kill, over some cartoons????

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #164 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:38am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

Perhaps, like most normal people, the staff at the magazine didn't think anyone would be pathetic enough to actually kill, over some cartoons????

no gizmo after the the history of these madmen we do know...

ask

Salam Rushdie

creators of South Park

and this.
Islam is no laughing matter. The Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten is being protected by security guards and several cartoonists have gone into hiding after the newspaper published a series of twelve cartoons (see them all here, halfway the article) about the prophet Muhammad. According to the Islam it is blasphemous to make images of the prophet. Muslim fundamentalists have threatened to bomb the paper’s offices and kill the cartoonists.

it is well recorded what they will do and how far they will go......

dont you get it.. they are not NORMAL people..

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