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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: we are Charlie? .. BS cowards.. >:( Reply #60 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:13pm Master, who are the originals? How do we give Australia back to them?
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: we are Charlie? .. BS cowards.. >:( Reply #61 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:37pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:07am: Charlie Hebdo is not a person. I suspect everyone except Gullible George already know that
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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: we are Charlie? .. BS cowards.. >:( Reply #62 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:37pm Rocketanski wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:13pm: Master, who are the originals? How do we give Australia back to them? many blessings in reality it is not your to give so at this the collective has an intergalactic belly laugh at this foolishness in which is forgiven in observation namaste - : ) =
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Reply #63 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:38pm

Kat wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:10am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:58am:

The fact that the Left become far more irrationally angry over Bolt and Abbott than they do over murdering scum terrorists says a lot of things about them, one thing it says to me is that they are mentally disturbed. Cheesy

Irrationally angry?

No, do wake up.

We merely have very finely-tuned bulldust detectors.

Not that they need to be, with this Bolt peanut, his BS is so blatant
that anyone (except a neo-con) can see it.

The only mentally-disturbed ones here are the Islamophobes on the
Right who insist upon tarring all Muslims with the terrorist brush.

That's plain stupid, and totally counter-productive.

It is they who need to be shut-down, not the moderates or the left.

you are just an incredibly angry, bitter and deeply disturbed individual.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: we are Charlie? .. BS cowards.. >:( Reply #64 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:39pm \|dev\|null wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 5:55pm: http://blog.kevinmaxwell.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Je-Suis-Charlie-Je-Sui... stupid and offensive towards the dead person mentioned.
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Reply #65 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:40pm

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:06am:

Just a point here...When Monty Python came out and satirised Christ , did the Christian World rise up and destroy the BBC?

I don't so Tim

So? I have an aquaintance whom is seriously overweight, I dont disparage fat people or make jokes about his weight, thats because I know he doesnt like it and I respect it. I dont see this issue any differently. Muslims find caricatures of their prophet extremely disrespectful, the French journalists involved were deliberately provocative in my opinion.

provocative... and the penalty for that should be a strongly worded email or a phone call or 20 protestors waving handmade placards.

Being provocative is what writers and cartoonists are meant to be - except in North Korea.

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Reply #66 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:38pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:10am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:58am:

The fact that the Left become far more irrationally angry over Bolt and Abbott than they do over murdering scum terrorists says a lot of things about them, one thing it says to me is that they are mentally disturbed. Cheesy

Irrationally angry?

No, do wake up.

We merely have very finely-tuned bulldust detectors.

Not that they need to be, with this Bolt peanut, his BS is so blatant
that anyone (except a neo-con) can see it.

The only mentally-disturbed ones here are the Islamophobes on the
Right who insist upon tarring all Muslims with the terrorist brush.

That's plain stupid, and totally counter-productive.

It is they who need to be shut-down, not the moderates or the left.

you are just an incredibly angry, bitter and deeply disturbed individual.

many blessings

here is one whom is into judgement

this being shows what not to do and so gratitude unto this one

whom shows its not a great look , quite foolish

yet the comedy that goes along with that is priceless

and so it is

namaste

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Reply #67 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:38pm:

Kat wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:10am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 8:58am:

The fact that the Left become far more irrationally angry over Bolt and Abbott than they do over murdering scum terrorists says a lot of things about them, one thing it says to me is that they are mentally disturbed. Cheesy

Irrationally angry?

No, do wake up.

We merely have very finely-tuned bulldust detectors.

Not that they need to be, with this Bolt peanut, his BS is so blatant
that anyone (except a neo-con) can see it.

The only mentally-disturbed ones here are the Islamophobes on the
Right who insist upon tarring all Muslims with the terrorist brush.

That's plain stupid, and totally counter-productive.

It is they who need to be shut-down, not the moderates or the left.

you are just an incredibly angry, bitter and deeply disturbed individual.

Says you. Most wouldn't agree.

There is nothing abusive or offensive in my comment, neither is there anything that is not correct.

You, not I, are the one with problems.

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Reply #68 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:14pm

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 2:43pm:

Sophia wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 2:31pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:06am:

Just a point here...When Monty Python came out and satirised Christ , did the Christian World rise up and destroy the BBC?

I don't so Tim

So? I have an aquaintance whom is seriously overweight, I dont disparage fat people or make jokes about his weight, thats because I know he doesnt like it and I respect it. I dont see this issue any differently. Muslims find caricatures of their prophet extremely disrespectful, the French journalists involved were deliberately provocative in my opinion.

It reminds me of the comedian, Dave Allen (remember him, with the missing finger and glass of whiskey?) He always joked about Catholics. In fact, all religions get some jokes, but over sensitive zealots like that lot that go on a killing spree....they haven't learnt to acquire a good sense of humour.
Sad ole world with no humour.
And there is no higher than thou....yet killing for an imagined higher entity is such bs and not a reason, but an excuse for taking out their radicalness on.
Fear is their weapon, to instill fear, not humour, not acceptance of differences etc.

of course the Muslim nutters involved have no humour and are zealots. But thats not the point. You reap what you sow, the journalists involved knew they were being deeply offensive to Muslims and deliberately decided to keep on doing so. This isnt about freedom of speech.

Bullshit..that IS the point...being 'offended' isn't an excuse to shoot 12 people.
Would I ( or a French relative of one of the magazine staff) be justified to walk into a mosque with a machine gun and open fire, because I'm offended by Islam????

Oh, and this is about the very essence of 'freedom of speech'...

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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: we are Charlie? .. BS cowards.. >:( Reply #69 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:16pm Master Light, is it not the Aborigines to give? Lastly, why are the sand people so aggressive? (In 'Star Wars" as well as the middle east? )
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Reply #70 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:40pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:06am:

Just a point here...When Monty Python came out and satirised Christ , did the Christian World rise up and destroy the BBC?

I don't so Tim

So? I have an aquaintance whom is seriously overweight, I dont disparage fat people or make jokes about his weight, thats because I know he doesnt like it and I respect it. I dont see this issue any differently. Muslims find caricatures of their prophet extremely disrespectful, the French journalists involved were deliberately provocative in my opinion.

provocative... and the penalty for that should be a strongly worded email or a phone call or 20 protestors waving handmade placards.

Being provocative is what writers and cartoonists are meant to be - except in North Korea.

who cares? dont make caricatures of a religious figure knowing that you are going to greatly offend them for no other reason than you can. See how easy it is? Just involves a little respect for your fellow man, of course you dont understand that.

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Reply #71 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:28pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:14pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 2:43pm:

Sophia wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 2:31pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:06am:

Just a point here...When Monty Python came out and satirised Christ , did the Christian World rise up and destroy the BBC?

I don't so Tim

So? I have an aquaintance whom is seriously overweight, I dont disparage fat people or make jokes about his weight, thats because I know he doesnt like it and I respect it. I dont see this issue any differently. Muslims find caricatures of their prophet extremely disrespectful, the French journalists involved were deliberately provocative in my opinion.

It reminds me of the comedian, Dave Allen (remember him, with the missing finger and glass of whiskey?) He always joked about Catholics. In fact, all religions get some jokes, but over sensitive zealots like that lot that go on a killing spree....they haven't learnt to acquire a good sense of humour.
Sad ole world with no humour.
And there is no higher than thou....yet killing for an imagined higher entity is such bs and not a reason, but an excuse for taking out their radicalness on.
Fear is their weapon, to instill fear, not humour, not acceptance of differences etc.

of course the Muslim nutters involved have no humour and are zealots. But thats not the point. You reap what you sow, the journalists involved knew they were being deeply offensive to Muslims and deliberately decided to keep on doing so. This isnt about freedom of speech.

Bullshit..that IS the point...being 'offended' isn't an excuse to shoot 12 people.
Would I ( or a French relative of one of the magazine staff) be justified to walk into a mosque with a machine gun and open fire, because I'm offended by Islam????

Oh, and this is about the very essence of 'freedom of speech'...

no one is talking about excuses. Are you hearing voices?

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: we are Charlie? .. BS cowards.. >:( Reply #72 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:29pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:14pm: [ Oh, and this is about the very essence of 'freedom of speech'... no its not. If it was then all the internet heroes sounding off here would be doing it in public.
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Reply #73 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:36pm

Kat wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 2:25am:

Bolt???

Say no more.

I mean, literally, say no more.

The man's an ignorant, bigoted, anencephalic nutter with little if anything
to say on just about any topic that's worth reading or listening-to.

If you think that this asshole has even the slightest clue, it's a sure sign
that you don't.

Wow! Where's this hostility coming from?

He's not racist. He's not against homos. As an immigrant himself, he's not anti-immigrant.

What exactly is it about him that upsets you?

There's something about him that obviously terrifies you - but what is it?

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Thanks for posting that up, The Mechanic. Good stuff that comes under the heading of REALITY CHECK.

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Reply #74 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:39pm

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 7:14pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 2:43pm:

Sophia wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 2:31pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 1:47pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:06am:

Just a point here...When Monty Python came out and satirised Christ , did the Christian World rise up and destroy the BBC?

I don't so Tim

So? I have an aquaintance whom is seriously overweight, I dont disparage fat people or make jokes about his weight, thats because I know he doesnt like it and I respect it. I dont see this issue any differently. Muslims find caricatures of their prophet extremely disrespectful, the French journalists involved were deliberately provocative in my opinion.

It reminds me of the comedian, Dave Allen (remember him, with the missing finger and glass of whiskey?) He always joked about Catholics. In fact, all religions get some jokes, but over sensitive zealots like that lot that go on a killing spree....they haven't learnt to acquire a good sense of humour.
Sad ole world with no humour.
And there is no higher than thou....yet killing for an imagined higher entity is such bs and not a reason, but an excuse for taking out their radicalness on.
Fear is their weapon, to instill fear, not humour, not acceptance of differences etc.

of course the Muslim nutters involved have no humour and are zealots. But thats not the point. You reap what you sow, the[highlight] journalists involved knew they were being deeply offensive to Muslims and deliberately decided to keep on doing so.[/highlight] This isnt about freedom of speech.

Bullshit..that IS the point...being 'offended' isn't an excuse to shoot 12 people.
Would I ( or a French relative of one of the magazine staff) be justified to walk into a mosque with a machine gun and open fire, because I'm offended by Islam????

Oh, and this is about the very essence of 'freedom of speech'...

no one is talking about excuses. Are you hearing voices?

Of course you are...if you don't condemn the action, you are excusing it...
By making comments that 'the journalists involved knew they were being deeply offensive to Muslims and deliberately decided to keep on doing so' is excusing the shooters from responsibility for their actions...

Yes I know that you will now argue that you either didn't intend to imply that, or that that isn't the case...however, that is a load of complete male bovine excrement and we ALL know it.

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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