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Evidence Of Abbott Government Bungling
Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:25am
 
Last minute Medicare change evidence of Abbott government bungling, says Australian Medical Association

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    January 11, 2015
    The Age

The Australian Medical Association predicts many doctors will be caught out by a change quietly made by the Abbott government two days before Christmas which will cut the Medicare rebates which apply for short consultations for one class of doctors.   Sad

AMA president Brian Owler said the last-minute change, which will take effect on January 19, is proof that the government's second attempt at overhauling Medicare was "rushed" and "poorly thought out".   Sad

On December 9, Prime Minister Tony Abbott and then-health minister Peter Dutton announced the government would abandon its original budget plan for a $7 fee to see the doctor and unveiled a replacement proposal which included cuts to Medicare rebates for visits of between five and ten minutes duration.

A fact sheet distributed to explain the proposals said the change would not apply to the Medicare items used by non-vocationally-registered medical practitioners, who are doctors who have not completed GP specialisation.

This would have meant that some visits to a doctor without GP specialisation would have attracted a higher rebate than a visit of the same duration to a specialist GP.

To correct this anomaly, on December 23, 12 days after the original regulations were made, Governor-General Sir Peter Cosgrove signed into law regulations which brought the definition of Medicare items for non-specialist GPs into line with the equivalent items used by specialist GPs. 

Associate Professor Owler said the government was "trying to play catch up" on the consequences of its changes because it had failed to consult with doctors when designing the package.

Associate Professor Owler said the changes were due to take effect at a time when many doctors and practice managers were away.

"The fact that there has been no announcement about these changes, it's been snuck in on a website somewhere, that's a terrible way of putting forward these changes, and I suspect  ... many non-VR doctors are going to be caught out by these changes because basically they're unaware of them."

Associate Professor Owler said he felt for new Health Minister Sussan Ley, who was sworn in on the day the latest regulations were made. The regulations were prepared by her predecessor, Peter Dutton.

"To lump an incoming health minister with someone else's very poor policy ... puts a potentially very good minister on the back foot right from the beginning," he said.

A spokesman for Ms Ley, who is on leave, said the minister had already met with the AMA and would continue to consult with the organisation, doctors and the broader community about Medicare reform.

The spokesman said that the issue had been discovered early and been promptly addressed prior to Ms Ley being sworn in as minister.

The changes, which will cut the rebate for a visit by a non-concessional patient of between five and ten minutes from $37.05 to $16.95 for a specialist GP, and from $21 to $11 for a non-specialist GP, have been framed by the government as a quality control measure designed to deter the "six-minute medicine" practised by some clinics, which seek to maximise their revenue by churning patients through quickly. They are expected to save about $1.3 billion over four years.

Ms Ley's spokesman said Associate Professor Owler's criticism of the changes was at odds with his calls last year for reform to address the "competitive drive towards six-minute medicine."
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Reply #1 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 6:34am
 
Mr Abbott we want the doctor that does the bulk billing.  We dont like the GP Co-payment.  We dont like your doctor tax.  Leave it alone Mr Abbott.      Angry
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Reply #2 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:44am
 
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The changes ... will cut the rebate for a visit by a non-concessional patient of between five and ten minutes from $37.05 to $16.95 for a specialist GP, and from $21 to $11 for a non-specialist GP

"No cuts to health" was a LIE. When will the rightards admit that Abbott lied about not cutting health?
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Reply #3 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:53am
 
Never fear, with Inspector Clouseau as PM, how can we go wrong  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #4 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:36am
 
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which included cuts to Medicare rebates for visits of between five and ten minutes duration


Can't be much wrong with you if your consultation only takes 5 minutes?

Pick up a doctor's cert for taking a sickie perhaps at the tax-payer's expense.....
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Swagman wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:36am:
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which included cuts to Medicare rebates for visits of between five and ten minutes duration


Can't be much wrong with you if your consultation only takes 5 minutes?

Pick up a doctor's cert for taking a sickie perhaps at the tax-payer's expense.....

Yes ... the employer should be paying.
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Reply #6 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:19pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:36am:
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which included cuts to Medicare rebates for visits of between five and ten minutes duration


Can't be much wrong with you if your consultation only takes 5 minutes?

Pick up a doctor's cert for taking a sickie perhaps at the tax-payer's expense.....


Renew a 'script', pick up documents or medication, get the results of tests, grab a tetanus booster shot...

There's a few, just off the top of my head.

Strangely, none have anything to do with chucking sickies or 'taxpayer's expense'.

You have a one-track mind when it comes to welfare or taxes.

And there's a train coming the other way. It's called 'reality'.
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Reply #7 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 3:23pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:36am:
Can't be much wrong with you if your consultation only takes 5 minutes?


i don't remember the last time a consult took longer than 5 mins .... check ears and throat, write script for antibiotics and bobs your uncle .... how long does it usually take to fix your hemorrhoids Swag?
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Reply #8 - Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:09am
 
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Mr Abbott we want the doctor that does the bulk billing.  We dont like the GP Co-payment.  We dont like your doctor tax.  Leave it alone Mr Abbott.      Angry


Why do you want everything for free? You realise it isn't free, don't you? The government has to pay for those "free" services somehow!
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Reply #9 - Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:24am
 
Why was it Mr Abbott say he wanted to do this, before the 2013 election?.      Sad
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:09am:
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Mr Abbott we want the doctor that does the bulk billing.  We dont like the GP Co-payment.  We dont like your doctor tax.  Leave it alone Mr Abbott.      Angry


Why do you want everything for free? You realise it isn't free, don't you? The government has to pay for those "free" services somehow!


That wasn't asking for everything for free. What a silly question.

Further, I don't mind paying for visiting a doctor, however, I do resent paying taxes to go towards that and then being double dipped by further fees.

Why do you support doubling up on payments?

Why would any sane person support a lying Government?

That is the issue which you are ducking with that little "want things for free" comment.

I want a Government to be a little more efficient with the taxes I already pay, you know, the money I ALREADY give them in order to pay for these services you seem to think are free. After several decades of fiscal incompetence (at one level or another) with successive primary party governments, I am braced for long term disappointment though.
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Reply #11 - Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:45am
 
Phemanderac wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:27am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:09am:
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Mr Abbott we want the doctor that does the bulk billing.  We dont like the GP Co-payment.  We dont like your doctor tax.  Leave it alone Mr Abbott.      Angry


Why do you want everything for free? You realise it isn't free, don't you? The government has to pay for those "free" services somehow!


That wasn't asking for everything for free. What a silly question.

Further, I don't mind paying for visiting a doctor, however, I do resent paying taxes to go towards that and then being double dipped by further fees.

Why do you support doubling up on payments?

Why would any sane person support a lying Government?

That is the issue which you are ducking with that little "want things for free" comment.

I want a Government to be a little more efficient with the taxes I already pay, you know, the money I ALREADY give them in order to pay for these services you seem to think are free. After several decades of fiscal incompetence (at one level or another) with successive primary party governments, I am braced for long term disappointment though.


I asked the same question virtually every day during Labor's six disastrous years in office.
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Reply #12 - Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:05am
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:36am:
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which included cuts to Medicare rebates for visits of between five and ten minutes duration


Can't be much wrong with you if your consultation only takes 5 minutes?



And your medical qualifications to draw that stereotypical conclusion are ?
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Evidence Of Abbott Government Bungling


Where do you apply for the job of finding this evidence - It would be the easiest job ever.
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Reply #14 - Jan 13th, 2015 at 7:56am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 13th, 2015 at 6:09am:
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Mr Abbott we want the doctor that does the bulk billing.  We dont like the GP Co-payment.  We dont like your doctor tax.  Leave it alone Mr Abbott.      Angry


Why do you want everything for free? You realise it isn't free, don't you? The government has to pay for those "free" services somehow!


then why do you ask the first question? make up your mind you idiot
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