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Islamic strategy towards the West?
Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:26am

Bullet points seem appropriate, but too complicated and scary for me.

- I suggest the jihadists and their promoters have two principal aims: 1. to cripple western liberal society which they hate and 2. to drive a wedge between non-muslims and those majority muslims who wish to co-exist.

- We have seen that it takes just 1-3 jihadis to cause major tragedy and disruption in western cities. They can command hundreds if not thousands of them and they're all willing to die.

- A campaign of jihad attacks in major western cities could continue for years, with even one major or minor attack a month. They cannot be identified in the main or prevented from carrying out random attacks. As I've already pointed out, traitors like Assange & Snowden have weakened even our surveillance defences.

- Can you imagine, as attacks continue over a sustained period, how much angst will surface in western society. The propensity for universal brotherhood will be severely tested. Suspicion of muslims in general will flourish.

- As the attitude of the non-muslim population changes, as it surely would, so will that of many more in the muslim communities. They will increasingly see themselves as victimised, as indeed they probably will be. More of them will tend to support the jihadis.

- A self-fulfilling circle of distrust and enmity will be the inevitable result and who knows what else.

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Re: Islamic strategy towards the West?
Reply #1 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:32pm

Good posts, And I share the points made, Its probably going to get worse, the terrorists for me won a victory in Paris, and i think its going to embolden them more to carry out more attacks in western nations. antagonising the native populations even further against the muslims living in the western nations.

I dont like the consequences coming from this, but we have no choice but to fight back.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Islamic strategy towards the West? Reply #2 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:34pm more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds.
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stryder Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4545 Gender:	Re: Islamic strategy towards the West? Reply #3 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:58pm ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:34pm: more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds. Is that how far your thinking goes ??, Oh it just wont happen to me
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Reply #4 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:31pm

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

Bullet points seem appropriate, but too complicated and scary for me.

- I suggest the jihadists and their promoters have two principal aims: 1. to cripple western liberal society which they hate and 2. to drive a wedge between non-muslims and those majority muslims who wish to co-exist.

- We have seen that it takes just 1-3 jihadis to cause major tragedy and disruption in western cities. They can command hundreds if not thousands of them and they're all willing to die.

- A campaign of jihad attacks in major western cities could continue for years, with even one major or minor attack a month. They cannot be identified in the main or prevented from carrying out random attacks. As I've already pointed out, traitors like Assange & Snowden have weakened even our surveillance defences.

- Can you imagine, as attacks continue over a sustained period, how much angst will surface in western society. The propensity for universal brotherhood will be severely tested. Suspicion of muslims in general will flourish.

- As the attitude of the non-muslim population changes, as it surely would, so will that of many more in the muslim communities. They will increasingly see themselves as victimised, as indeed they probably will be. More of them will tend to support the jihadis.

- A self-fulfilling circle of distrust and enmity will be the inevitable result and who knows what else.

(This fantasy feature brought to you by Dark Vision Productions in association with Flailing About Aimlessly. Funding by Free World Enterprise Development Aid.)

Muslims are already victims. There were no reprisal attacks following the Sydney hostage murders, but you wouldn't think so from all the victim mongering.

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Reply #5 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:39pm

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds.

Is that how far your thinking goes ??, Oh it just wont happen to me

I deal in realities, being very well acquainted with violence it may very well happen to me but not from a muslim assassins bullet. .

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Reply #6 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:41pm

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:39pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds.

Is that how far your thinking goes ??, Oh it just wont happen to me

I deal in realities, being very well acquainted with violence it may very well happen to me but not from a muslim assassins bullet. .

Oh so if you run and hide and dont make any criticism of islam what so ever, YOU WILL FOREVER FEEL SAFE, is that the idea ? Grin

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103545 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Islamic strategy towards the West? Reply #7 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:54pm I suggest education is the only way to stop radical Muslims. They need to be de-programmed. Reminds me of A Clockwork Orange.
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Re: Islamic strategy towards the West?
Reply #8 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:59pm

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:41pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:39pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:58pm:

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds.

Is that how far your thinking goes ??, Oh it just wont happen to me

I deal in realities, being very well acquainted with violence it may very well happen to me but not from a muslim assassins bullet. .

Oh so if you run and hide and dont make any criticism of islam what so ever, YOU WILL FOREVER FEEL SAFE, is that the idea ? Grin

Yes, you are right. I am running and hiding from Muslims, I achieve this by travelling to Muslim countries up to 6 times a year. i wear my sunglasses as a disguise.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Islamic strategy towards the West? Reply #9 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:00pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:54pm: I suggest education is the only way to stop radical Muslims. They need to be de-programmed. the best way to stop them is not to create them. as ye sow shall ye reap.
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Reply #10 - Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:18pm

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:00pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 9:54pm:

I suggest education is the only way to stop radical Muslims.

They need to be de-programmed.

the best way to stop them is not to create them. as ye sow shall ye reap.

But once you have them - then maybe de-programming would work?

I started a new thread on it.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421064070/0#0

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Reply #11 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 12:04am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

Bullet points seem appropriate, but too complicated and scary for me.

- I suggest the jihadists and their promoters have two principal aims: 1. to cripple western liberal society which they hate and 2. to drive a wedge between non-muslims and those majority muslims who wish to co-exist.

- We have seen that it takes just 1-3 jihadis to cause major tragedy and disruption in western cities. They can command hundreds if not thousands of them and they're all willing to die.

- A campaign of jihad attacks in major western cities could continue for years, with even one major or minor attack a month. They cannot be identified in the main or prevented from carrying out random attacks. As I've already pointed out, traitors like Assange & Snowden have weakened even our surveillance defences.

- Can you imagine, as attacks continue over a sustained period, how much angst will surface in western society. The propensity for universal brotherhood will be severely tested. Suspicion of muslims in general will flourish.

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WE, IN THE WEST, should be - THINKING IN A DIFFERENT WAY - about how we regard the presence of moslem communities, dwelling among us, in the West.

We should be thinking of every moslem community living among us, as though that moslem community, were an introduced 'pathogen' or even a 'cancer' [introduced into the body of our Western society/societies].

In a medical sense, while a pathogen is able to fool our 'immune system' into thinking that it [the pathogen] poses no threat to our body [by remaining 'invisible' to our 'immune system'], the body and the immune system is not 'alerted', that it needs to fight back against that pathogen !

And that is how cancers are able to kill our body.

Cancers fool [and weaken!] the immune system, into believing that cancer cells are part of our body.
.....hence there is very rarely any effective immune system response, against many cancers!

And that is 'the place' where we in the West, are today vis-a-vis ISLAM and moslems, living within Western nations!

Our 'immune system' doesn't yet 'know', that a dangerous and hostile 'pathogen' is 'at work', and growing, within our 'body'.

ISLAM - today - is [in effect], an introduced 'pathogen' which has a significant presence within 'the body' of every Western liberal society!

But why should we regard ISLAM as a harmful 'pathogen'?

Because the societal values which ISLAM promotes, are [almost all] harmful to, and incompatible with, the ideals and values which societies in West nations aspire to - e.g. truth, justice, freedom [to choose!].

And 'the moslem' [even when he is living among us] will always remain an 'agent' of ISLAM. [Google; Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim]

And ISLAM, and 'the moslem', will always remain a real 'existential threat' to us, and to everything which we hold dear.

But 'the moslem' has fooled many parts of our 'body', into believing that ISLAM [and 'the moslem'] poses no threat to us.

"ISLAM is a peaceful and tolerant faith." ...."ISLAM promotes peace and harmony." .....hence we see no 'immune system' response!

And whilesoever those very moslem communities, living among, us remain largely 'weak and ineffectual', those moslems will continue to pretend that they mean us no harm.

But the moslems living among us, are inexorably becoming more numerous.

And we are all moving inexorably towards some form of 'tipping point'.

And when that 'tipping point' arrives, there will be a lot of 'turmoil' [and confusion].

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Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

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Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.
A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....
He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

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Reply #12 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 12:25am

ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds.

Missing the point. The issue is that terrorist attacks do happen. The "not my problem" attitude is not going to solve the wider community's growing concern with terrorism. Nor will it minimise the attacks.

Hey, I don't concern myself excessively with terrorism. But I make sure that we minimise the attacks by doing what individuals can do to guard against attacks.

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At this stage...

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Islamic strategy towards the West? Reply #13 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 12:46am UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 12:25am: ian wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 6:34pm: more chance of being struck by a meteorite than being a victim of a terrorist attack, look at you all, a bunch of quivering nancies hiding under your beds. Missing the point. T No, thats the entire point , Dufus,.
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Reply #14 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 1:07am

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

Bullet points seem appropriate, but too complicated and scary for me.

- I suggest the jihadists and their promoters have two principal aims: 1. to cripple western liberal society which they hate and 2. to drive a wedge between non-muslims and those majority muslims who wish to co-exist.

- We have seen that it takes just 1-3 jihadis to cause major tragedy and disruption in western cities. They can command hundreds if not thousands of them and they're all willing to die.

- A campaign of jihad attacks in major western cities could continue for years, with even one major or minor attack a month. They cannot be identified in the main or prevented from carrying out random attacks.

As I've already pointed out, traitors like Assange & Snowden have weakened even our surveillance defences.

- Can you imagine, as attacks continue over a sustained period, how much angst will surface in western society. The propensity for universal brotherhood will be severely tested. Suspicion of muslims in general will flourish.

- As the attitude of the non-muslim population changes, as it surely would, so will that of many more in the muslim communities. They will increasingly see themselves as victimised, as indeed they probably will be. More of them will tend to support the jihadis.

- A self-fulfilling circle of distrust and enmity will be the inevitable result and who knows what else.

(This fantasy feature brought to you by Dark Vision Productions in association with Flailing About Aimlessly. Funding by Free World Enterprise Development Aid.)

Assange and Snowden did nothing! Cheesy

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