While the UK's One Nation party (UKIP) leader stands alone in having the political courage to say "the king is wearing no clothes" - meanwhile, the leaders of all the other parties are falling over each other in their rush to ingratiate with Britain's Muslims by condemning any criticism of Islam for being the inspiration for acts of terrorism.

"The Ukip leader blamed Western foreign policy and mass immigration for ‘much of what has happened’.

His remarks come after he was attacked by David Cameron, Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg for claiming there was a ‘fifth column’ in Britain.

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"But Mr Farage said: ‘Perhaps worst of all we have been guilty of weakness – lack of courage – a lack of assertion of who we are as people.

‘We’ve turned a blind eye to many of our minority communities to practises that would not be tolerated in the rest of the population.

‘We’ve allowed preachers of hate to go around saying things that are totally unacceptable.

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"The result of all this is we have a fifth column living in our communities that is utterly opposed to our values, and how we deal with that is vital for the future.

‘Unless we are prepared to admit our own culpability in much of what has happened we are not going to be able to find solutions.

‘We are going to have to be a lot braver and courageous in standing up for our Judeo Christian culture".

Who can argue with that except Leftwingers who want to see the end of democracy and western civilisation?

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Another implication occurs to me. We have seen today how France has deployed around 4000 police to guard around 700 Jewish schools, as well as synagogues & mosques. (No mention of Islamic schools though in time these may need the same protection). Also 10000 troops are to be deployed in general security.

I imagine the UK will also be boosting its security deployments and probably Germany will too, following the level of anti-Islamic protests.

What will be the cost of such measures which will likely have to be long term. Matters like police overtime and maybe increased recruitment will have to be calculated into already stretched budgets. I suppose there is no dramatic increased cost as far as troops are concerned, although maybe there is for billeting, transport etc.

Once again the long term implications are what interests me, assuming as I already have that this may be a sustained strategy and not just rogue events.
Will European societies be happy with having to expend their treasure in this way or will they at some point decide to break out and retaliate?

(PS This is not meant to be an anti-muslim thread but only an attempt at rational analysis & speculation. Gandalf please note.)

bogarde73 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:37am:


ISLAM and moslems are cunning.

ISLAM and moslems can [and do!!!] secretly sanction and encourage [moslem] individuals to attack our society and its institutions.

All the while, moslem community leaders can publicly disavow any sanction [for this violence coming] from ISLAM;

e.g.

"We condemn these terrorist acts!!    ISLAM is a peaceful and tolerant faith."

But the immense costs involved, in being constantly 'on alert', against these attacks, drains the 'treasure' of our societies, and measurably weakens our overall strength and stature, as a culture/society.

Which is EXACTLY what the ISLAMISTS among us want to achieve.

> foothold via immigration

> cry victim at every turn, as here https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/25980277/islamic-leaders-says-charlie-hebdo-terroris...

> demand 'right' to run show own way

>  cite constant put-down of religion

> respond with violence

> plead innocence and peace

> escalate complaints and violence

> install reign of terror like back home

Kinda reminds you of Hitler and the Sudetenland eh?  Or a woman's standard tactics - create an 'issue' where you are the 'victim' - proceed to  beat up the 'other side' - continue to cry victim until the powers-that-be accord to you accredited victim status and enforce your victimhood AND your violence against the 'other side'.

Well.. WE didn't bring 'em in.. our governments did and continue to do so.

Solution:-  ship 'em all home again.

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

incorrect. Millions of innocent civilians dead because we cant stay away from their oil.

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:



No, no, many tens of thousands of civilians in collateral damage.

No one thought the child survivors of those early bombings would grow up.

another idiot. why does this forum attract so many duh duhs.