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Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:13pm
 
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The NSW government is planning to spend the money raised from the sale of the state’s electricity distribution network on a $20 billion infrastructure program as the cornerstone of its case for a second term at the March 2015 election.

NSW Premier Mike Baird revealed the financial details of the $20 billion plan his government flagged five months ago  as the sweetener for the electricity infrastructure sell off  approved in June.

The Premier claims the sale will drive down electricity prices. The Opposition argues it will rob the state of $1 billion in revenue annually.

The NSW Government’s State Infrastructure Strategy has accepted all of the recommendations of Infrastructure NSW to reshape Sydney and the state.

The biggest chunk of spending, $7 billion, is allocated towards the 30km Sydney Rapid Transit rail corridor, also announced in June, which includes a second Sydney Harbour rail crossing. It includes three new CBD underground stations. Construction would begin in 2017.

The other big ticket item is $1.1 billion towards a new western Harbour road tunnel and extensions to WestConnex, linking it to the Anzac Bridge and Victoria Road and near Kogarah in the south, with $800 million left over towards urban public transport improvements.

Roads minister Duncan Gay says the tunnel will allow up to 50,000 vehicles to bypass the CBD by linking the Gore Hill Freeway with a WestConnex extension at Rozelle.

The Premier says congestion in Sydney costs $5 billion in lost productivity annually, rising to $8 billion by 2020, so $1.3 billion is allocated to “bust congestion in Sydney by boosting the productivity of the city’s roads”, including $100 million towards an expanded clearways program, $400 million for motorways, with the M4 singled out, and $300M for the “urban road pinch points” program.

The government plans to tip an extra $400 million into light rail for Parramatta for a total spend of $1 billion.

With $600 million of a $1.2billion “sports and cultural fund” – up $500 million on the original allocation – earmarked towards the upgrade of sports stadiums, the $350 million upgrade of ANZ Stadium at Homebush, revealed last week, is looking likely.

Regional NSW gets $6 billion, including $4.1 billion for regional transport, with a $500 million upgrade to the Newell highway, which passes through western towns such as Dubbo and Moree.

The state’s schools, hospitals and water infrastructure get $1 billion each.

Baird says the $20 billion investment will generate an additional $300 billion in economic activity for the state over 20 years and add 100,000 jobs, according to economic modelling by Deloitte Access Economics.

“This is a visionary plan for Sydney and the regions, and most important, it is funded,” the Premier said.

The announcement comes a month after NSW treasurer Andrew Constance revealed the state’s budget was back in the black with a $1.2 billion surplus, thanks largely due to increased property stamp duty revenue


Amazingly, Labor and the Unions want to block this plan that will pump $20 Billion dollars into the NSW economy providing much needed transport infrastructure and all the direct & indirect jobs associated with it...... Sad
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Reply #1 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:25pm
 
Poll - Is Baird's $20 Billion dollar stimulus for NSW good policy?

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Re: Baird's $20 Billion dollar stimulus for NSW
Reply #2 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:34pm
 
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The Premier claims the sale will drive down electricity prices.



NATURALLY
- when the companies are privately owned and give a shareholder return on investment






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Reply #3 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:37pm
 
Still waiting for the $550 a year better off.      Sad
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Reply #4 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:46pm
 
I voted no - Labor:  though my vote is not really settled yet.

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sweetener for the electricity infrastructure sell off


Sell off is not a good idea - they opposed it when it was needed and now that we got away with not selling it is no longer necessary.


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The Premier claims the sale will drive down electricity prices.


Hasn't anywhere else and hasn't with any other sell off - zero chance that this will be different - In fact history is saying the opposite the price will go up and the new owner will laugh at us all and rub the governments nose in it.


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The Opposition argues it will rob the state of $1 billion in revenue annually.


No brainer - sell an asset which is providing income and the income stream will stop.

All up result is that the government get a 1 off payment - they piss the money against the wall with a lot of waste  - the customer pays more for less - the income stream stops.

The loser is NSW.
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Re: Baird's $20 Billion dollar stimulus for NSW
Reply #5 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:50pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:13pm:
Amazingly,
Labor and the Unions
want to block this plan that will pump $20 Billion dollars into the NSW economy providing much needed transport infrastructure and all the direct & indirect jobs associated with it...... Sad






Labor and the Unions
are probably a wake up to
Baird's borrowed "Abbott speak"
of "transport infrastructure" being ROADS, ROADS - and MORE BLOODY ROADS

... do you think "transport infrastructure" might ever mean PUBLIC TRANSPORT ?







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Now just wondering, would these be toll roads?.      Sad
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Still waiting for the $550 a year better off.      Sad



You can write that off as a bad debt on your next tax return or put it in the hands of a debt collector.
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Reply #8 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 7:57pm
 
Selling the house to buy some furniture is always a poor option.
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The Premier claims the sale will drive down electricity prices. The Opposition argues it will rob the state of $1 billion in revenue annually.


The additional jobs, enterprise, infrastructure, productivity, will be worth 10x that annually.
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Reply #10 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:43pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:28pm:
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The Premier claims the sale will drive down electricity prices. The Opposition argues it will rob the state of $1 billion in revenue annually.


The additional jobs, enterprise, infrastructure, productivity, will be worth 10x that annually.


At least!
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Swagman wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:28pm:
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The Premier claims the sale will drive down electricity prices. The Opposition argues it will rob the state of $1 billion in revenue annually.


The additional jobs, enterprise, infrastructure, productivity, will be worth 10x that annually.


If that were even close to true the proof would be obvious from all the other privatisations where the same thing was said in the past - we would be swimming in money - hundreds of billions.

This is just a standard statement - empty rhetoric proven over and over again to have been untrue.
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Dnarever wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:52pm:
If that were even close to true the proof would be obvious from all the other privatisations where the same thing was said in the past - we would be swimming in money - hundreds of billions


We would be indeed.  It's just that Labor always finds ways to piss it up the wall.... Cheesy
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Reply #13 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:18pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:05pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:52pm:
If that were even close to true the proof would be obvious from all the other privatisations where the same thing was said in the past - we would be swimming in money - hundreds of billions


We would be indeed.  It's just that Labor always finds ways to piss it up the wall.... Cheesy


We have a Liberal government now remember the adults are in charge and all this money is flowing in from past privatisations - what is tony doing with it all ?

Truth is that this continuous never ending boon we get from privatisation is a myth.
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Reply #14 - Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:21pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:18pm:
Swagman wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 9:05pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 12th, 2015 at 8:52pm:
If that were even close to true the proof would be obvious from all the other privatisations where the same thing was said in the past - we would be swimming in money - hundreds of billions


We would be indeed.  It's just that Labor always finds ways to piss it up the wall.... Cheesy


We have a Liberal government now remember the adults are in charge and all this money is flowing in from past privatisations - what is tony doing with it all ?


Yes and NSW is back on track and open for business.... Smiley

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