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Reply #270 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:35pm

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

Mocking Mohammed is mocking Mohammed, not an entire religion. It may be provocative or distasteful but not verboten. Mocking an entire religion is OK, too. You know why? Because your religion is something you choose, as an adult - unlike your race, ethnicity or what gives you the horn.
Whether Muslims share a joke or not is not a consideration. There is no room for firebombing and killing and suing.

have you seen how seriously these extremists take their RELIGION???????..

if you had you wouldnt make such a statement...

you really need to take a good look at the New Islam...well it must be new if its escaped your notice...

they are beheading people because they cant bear the sight of them....and its all in the name of Muhammad

you dont believe in Muhammad off with the head...

is it religion....WELL IT IS TO THEM....

so you can stamp your feet and scream out FREEDOM OF SPEECH....all you like.. they wont hear you...too busy praying and sharpening their knives..

do you really think these guys care what you think of them....by you I mean the West...

in fact the more you proclaim we have no fear of them.. do your worst...... the more you will get...

What the bloody hell are they doing here, then?

The Charlie Hebdo offices were shot up because these kind of guys and their 'sensibilities' and ideologies have been respected and tiptoied around for far toop long and by far too many people, to the point where NOBODY was Charlie except Charlie.

You can't shoot up every newspaper if they all print the cartoons and if everyone is serious about defending the hard-won Western freedoms - that is, if everyone is Charlie.

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Reply #271 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:37pm

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:20pm:

Posted on: Today at 7:20pm
longweekend58 wrote Today at 11:06am:
Soren wrote Today at 10:54am:
cods wrote Today at 9:32am:
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Compared to being DEAD, this is Bambi stuff.

Who is Mohammed to be regarded as beyond mockery? Who are Muslims not to be laughed at?

This is insane. You can mock Libbos, Christians, Labor, Commies, Nazis, Scientologists, Jews, Greens, AGW Deniers, - but you must not take the piss when it comes to Mohammed and Muslims because they are liable to be violent murderous f Vcks? Over cartoons and jokes and accusations of being murderous f Vcks.

If that is their attitude I want nothing more than offend them so they have a fit and drop dead. I want to induce apoplexy. They deserve nothing less.

This cowering nonsense is, well, preposterous nonsense -the murderous fanatics must be respected because they are murderous fanatics?? You are out of you mind. Completely out of your mind.

so you would keep kicking the angry beehive even though your whole family is standing there and in danger...........that is your very civil right to do so..

I hope none of your innocent neighbours become part of the angry bees payback for the kicking you are giving them

Well, I would not let an angry beehive into my house, for starters.

If they are an angry beehive, what are they doing here?

don't you set fire to angry beehives???

Well, you do not let them into your house.

guess what soren.. Charlie had two cops at the front....how many would you have at your house then??>.

if you think anything will keep a hive full of angry bees from getting in to you......then you really dont mind putting people in danger do you?....

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Reply #272 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:50pm

Faut-il continuer à se moquer de la religion musulmane? la réponse est oui, sans hésitation. (should we continue to mock Islam? Yes, without hesitation)
Il faut continuer jusqu'à ce que l'islam soit aussi banalisé que le catholicisme (we have to continue until Islam is as banal as Catholicism)
Nous avons brisé les deux tabous que sont Eros et Thanatos, mais il reste celui des religions (We have broken down two taboos, Eros and Thanatos (sex and death), but the one on religion remains.
Si on dit aux religions: “Vous êtes intouchables”, on est foutus" (if you say to religion, 'you are untouchable', then you are fked.'

From a Le Monde interview with Charlie in 2012 (after the 2011 firebombing).

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Reply #273 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:52pm

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

Resolute wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 10:47pm:

Maybe not. I'm not cowering, but I do admit to cringing at the blatant abuse 'we' seem to feel quite at liberty to send the way of people who happen to believe in a sky fairy. Why can't we let them believe as much as they like? I don't care, and to pre-empt you......I really don't care if some woman adopts that faith knowing full well what they are getting themselves in for. Live and let live, wot?

They can believe whatever they like - but their believing it doesn't convey respectability on their beliefs.

extreme terrorists dont give a toss... about your respect,..when are you going to wake up to that...

When are you going to wake up to the fact that everybody isn't a defeatist like you?

defeatist... stop printing something that sets a madmen off is defeatist.......wow then that me ..

I prefer my friends alive......I guess you just plain dont care.

Time to clamp down hard on the madmen and their supporters, enablers, excusers.

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Reply #274 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:54pm

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

Resolute wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 10:47pm:

Maybe not. I'm not cowering, but I do admit to cringing at the blatant abuse 'we' seem to feel quite at liberty to send the way of people who happen to believe in a sky fairy. Why can't we let them believe as much as they like? I don't care, and to pre-empt you......I really don't care if some woman adopts that faith knowing full well what they are getting themselves in for. Live and let live, wot?

They can believe whatever they like - but their believing it doesn't convey respectability on their beliefs.

extreme terrorists dont give a toss... about your respect,..when are you going to wake up to that...

When are you going to wake up to the fact that everybody isn't a defeatist like you?

defeatist... stop printing something that sets a madmen off is defeatist.......wow then that me ..

I prefer my friends alive......I guess you just plain dont care.

You aren't in control of the printing process Wink

It's a big world out there Roll Eyes

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brumbie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 994 Gender:	Re: Je Suis Larry! Reply #275 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:07pm Cods..its quite acceptable for a woman to give up..I think we all get that...all you have done is bring the female/male thing into it in my view....do you see the females that have gave up to ISIS?...Do you think they have gained Cods?
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brumbie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 994 Gender:	Re: Je Suis Larry! Reply #276 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:20pm You have become so hung up on your own argument Cods that its more important than the message...which at the wend of the day wasn't you?...stop painting yourself into a corner.
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Pantheon Gold Member Offline Woke Posts: 1256 Gender:	Re: Je Suis Larry! Reply #277 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:21pm ____ wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 8:28am: My initial response was bad taste. Yet thats not the issue here. It's freedom of expression. Under section 18c, that post can give you prison time. I can already see the beginnings stages of socialist totalitarianism developing in our country.
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Reply #278 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:11pm

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 8:52pm:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

Resolute wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 10:47pm:

Maybe not. I'm not cowering, but I do admit to cringing at the blatant abuse 'we' seem to feel quite at liberty to send the way of people who happen to believe in a sky fairy. Why can't we let them believe as much as they like? I don't care, and to pre-empt you......I really don't care if some woman adopts that faith knowing full well what they are getting themselves in for. Live and let live, wot?

They can believe whatever they like - but their believing it doesn't convey respectability on their beliefs.

extreme terrorists dont give a toss... about your respect,..when are you going to wake up to that...

When are you going to wake up to the fact that everybody isn't a defeatist like you?

defeatist... stop printing something that sets a madmen off is defeatist.......wow then that me ..

I prefer my friends alive......I guess you just plain dont care.

Time to clamp down hard on the madmen and their supporters, enablers, excusers.

do you know where they are?? I am sure ASIO would like a word with you....

could you pick one of them out at your local shipping centre?>>....or dont you think we have a thing to worry about in Oz?..

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Reply #279 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:15pm

brumbie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:07pm:

Cods..its quite acceptable for a woman to give up..I think we all get that...all you have done is bring the female/male thing into it in my view....do you see the females that have gave up to ISIS?...Do you think they have gained Cods?

sorry I havent a clue what you are talking about...

someone else brings in left and right.. now you Male and Female.. I have no idea where either of you are coming from.,....and I cant be bothered to find out...

I dont know of any females HOW HAVE GAVE UP TO ISIS... Roll Eyes

what the hell does that mean???...

I will leave you too it.. if it makes sense to you.. well at least thats one of us..

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Reply #280 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:16pm

brumbie wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:20pm:

You have become so hung up on your own argument Cods that its more important than the message...which at the wend of the day wasn't you?...stop painting yourself into a corner.

huuuuuuuuuuum which corner is that...wend of the day...I dont do wend of the day...you must be thinking of someone else.. Cheesy

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Reply #281 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:25pm

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:35pm:

cods wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:43pm:

Mocking Mohammed is mocking Mohammed, not an entire religion. It may be provocative or distasteful but not verboten. Mocking an entire religion is OK, too. You know why? Because your religion is something you choose, as an adult - unlike your race, ethnicity or what gives you the horn.
Whether Muslims share a joke or not is not a consideration. There is no room for firebombing and killing and suing.

have you seen how seriously these extremists take their RELIGION???????..

if you had you wouldnt make such a statement...

you really need to take a good look at the New Islam...well it must be new if its escaped your notice...

they are beheading people because they cant bear the sight of them....and its all in the name of Muhammad

you dont believe in Muhammad off with the head...

is it religion....WELL IT IS TO THEM....

so you can stamp your feet and scream out FREEDOM OF SPEECH....all you like.. they wont hear you...too busy praying and sharpening their knives..

do you really think these guys care what you think of them....by you I mean the West...

in fact the more you proclaim we have no fear of them.. do your worst...... the more you will get...

What the bloody hell are they doing here, then?

The Charlie Hebdo offices were shot up because these kind of guys and their 'sensibilities' and ideologies have been respected and tiptoied around for far toop long and by far too many people, to the point where NOBODY was Charlie except Charlie.

You can't shoot up every newspaper if they all print the cartoons and if everyone is serious about defending the hard-won Western freedoms - that is, if everyone is Charlie.

really since when did Charlie Hebdo stop printing cartoon of muhammad??? why did they need cops at the front door...

do you really call cartoons RESPECT even Gillard complained about them... are you kidding me.. go look at some of them.. they are vile.. not funny not even clever just crude and rude and to some plain evil..

did I or gillard threaten to kill anyone because we dont like them???

no we didnt..

but someone did...do you think your outrage at them killing people over it.. bothers them??

do you think they will stop at killing anyone else who denigrates their messiah??....

do you?????just because you are outraged.....

sorry but I think you are away with the pixies...

do you see any other newspapers testing the water soren???>........ever wondered why?????/....

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Reply #282 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:12am

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:55pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:11pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:08pm:

And most of then are actually dormant, or haven't been applied in decades.

Dormant. Thats an interesting legal term. Have a guess when the last arrest for blasphemy in Australia was.

1919 I think

wrong.

Really??/ care to provide another date??

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Reply #283 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:20am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:12am:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:55pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:11pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:08pm:

And most of then are actually dormant, or haven't been applied in decades.

Dormant. Thats an interesting legal term. Have a guess when the last arrest for blasphemy in Australia was.

1919 I think

wrong.

Really??/ care to provide another date??

GOD..why is everyone on this bloody site so lazy, a simple google search will tell you the last time the Crown prosecuted anyone for blasphemy was in 1919

"The Crown last laid a charge of blasphemous libel in 1919. The case concerned socialist journalist Robert Samuel Ross, who had published a satirical piece in which Bolsheviks ransack heaven. The prosecutor dropped the charge but proceeded on a charge of sending blasphemous materials through the mail. The Court convicted Ross, and sentenced him to six months of hard labour."

NEXT TIME DONE BE SO LAZY!!

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Reply #284 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:23am

Pantheon wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:20am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 12:12am:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:55pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:17pm:

ian wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:11pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 6:08pm:

And most of then are actually dormant, or haven't been applied in decades.

Dormant. Thats an interesting legal term. Have a guess when the last arrest for blasphemy in Australia was.

1919 I think

wrong.

Really??/ care to provide another date??

GOD..why is everyone on this bloody site so lazy, a simple google search will tell you the last time the Crown prosecuted anyone for blasphemy was in 1919

"The Crown last laid a charge of blasphemous libel in 1919. The case concerned socialist journalist Robert Samuel Ross, who had published a satirical piece in which Bolsheviks ransack heaven. The prosecutor dropped the charge but proceeded on a charge of sending blasphemous materials through the mail. The Court convicted Ross, and sentenced him to six months of hard labour."

NEXT TIME DONE BE SO LAZY!!

Yes Avoking, I KNOW that, it's ian that is disputing it..I'm asking what date HE thinks it is.

In fact I also happen to know that the other case was 1871.

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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