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Jan 13^th, 2015 at 9:58pm

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Now is the time for tears, but the time for a response WILL come': Fury of Jewish deli victims' families as bodies arrive in Israel and Paris mourns police officers killed by Charlie Hebdo terrorists

Four Jewish victims of the Paris kosher deli attack arrived in Israel for burial today as their furious relatives warned: 'A time for a response will come.'
The bodies of Yohan Cohen, Yoav Hattab, Francois-Michel Saada and Phillipe Braham landed at Ben Gurion airport, near Tel Aviv, early this morning.
Meanwhile, a solemn ceremony was being held in Paris for the three French police officers also murdered in last week's killing spree.
Eric Atale, Mr Saada's cousin, arrived on the same plane with 13 other family members from France ahead of the funeral in Jerusalem.
'It's very hard', Mr Atale told MailOnline. 'This is what happens when one sick, mentally ill individual is able to bring such atrocity onto a whole nation.
'There is a time for tears, there is a time for questions and there is a time for a response. Now is the time for tears - but the time for a response will come.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2907855/Bodies-four-Jewish-victims-Paris-kosher-deli-attack-arrive-Israel-ahead-funeral-Jerusalem-cemetery.html#ixzz3OlTboMnR
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now that i would be scared of, the Israelis are going to make an issue of this I think.

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Fury of Jewish deli victims' families Reply #1 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 10:11pm High time someone did.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Fury of Jewish deli victims' families Reply #2 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 10:33pm It's election time and political hay can be made from these deaths.
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Reply #3 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 10:36pm

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 9:58pm:

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Now is the time for tears, but the time for a response WILL come': Fury of Jewish deli victims' families as bodies arrive in Israel and Paris mourns police officers killed by Charlie Hebdo terrorists

Four Jewish victims of the Paris kosher deli attack arrived in Israel for burial today as their furious relatives warned: 'A time for a response will come.'
The bodies of Yohan Cohen, Yoav Hattab, Francois-Michel Saada and Phillipe Braham landed at Ben Gurion airport, near Tel Aviv, early this morning.
Meanwhile, a solemn ceremony was being held in Paris for the three French police officers also murdered in last week's killing spree.
Eric Atale, Mr Saada's cousin, arrived on the same plane with 13 other family members from France ahead of the funeral in Jerusalem.
'It's very hard', Mr Atale told MailOnline. 'This is what happens when one sick, mentally ill individual is able to bring such atrocity onto a whole nation.
'There is a time for tears, there is a time for questions and there is a time for a response. Now is the time for tears - but the time for a response will come.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2907855/Bodies-four-Jewish-victims-Paris-kosher-deli-attack-arrive-Israel-ahead-funeral-Jerusalem-cemetery.html#ixzz3OlTboMnR
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now that i would be scared of, the Israelis are going to make an issue of this I think.

You idiot - they kill 4 Jews in Paris for being Jews - and you worry that the Jews will "make an issue of this" and will not just take it lying down???

Well, I bloody hope they will not take it lying down. Charlie was shot up because alwmost everyone abandoned them and they were alone in standing up to the monsters. It is time for the pushy bastards who shoot up newspapers, take hostages in cafes, kill soldiers guarding cenotaphs have their noses bloodied.

Next time there is a menacing crowd of Muslims outside a Parisian synagogue, as it happened recently, I would like to see the Jews go outside, tell them to f Vck off and if the do not, make them f vCk off by any means at their disposal - because waiting for the French state to protect its Jewish citizens while they are menaced by Muslims while shopping in a supermarket is not going to be sufficient to save them.

And of course, NO ISLAM TO SEE HERE.

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Reply #4 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 11:02pm

Isaiah 2:1
The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
5 O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.

Isaiah 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

There is only one saviour/redeemer....

.....the God of Israel.

Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his [Israel's] redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Isaiah 54:6
For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.

Jeremiah 23:3
And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8 But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.

Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
40 For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
42 I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.
43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

Come quickly LORD.

Teach men, to fear you.

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Re: Fury of Jewish deli victims' families
Reply #5 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 11:04pm

Soren wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 10:36pm:

ian wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 9:58pm:

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Now is the time for tears, but the time for a response WILL come': Fury of Jewish deli victims' families as bodies arrive in Israel and Paris mourns police officers killed by Charlie Hebdo terrorists

Four Jewish victims of the Paris kosher deli attack arrived in Israel for burial today as their furious relatives warned: 'A time for a response will come.'
The bodies of Yohan Cohen, Yoav Hattab, Francois-Michel Saada and Phillipe Braham landed at Ben Gurion airport, near Tel Aviv, early this morning.
Meanwhile, a solemn ceremony was being held in Paris for the three French police officers also murdered in last week's killing spree.
Eric Atale, Mr Saada's cousin, arrived on the same plane with 13 other family members from France ahead of the funeral in Jerusalem.
'It's very hard', Mr Atale told MailOnline. 'This is what happens when one sick, mentally ill individual is able to bring such atrocity onto a whole nation.
'There is a time for tears, there is a time for questions and there is a time for a response. Now is the time for tears - but the time for a response will come.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2907855/Bodies-four-Jewish-victims-Paris-kosher-deli-attack-arrive-Israel-ahead-funeral-Jerusalem-cemetery.html#ixzz3OlTboMnR
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now that i would be scared of, the Israelis are going to make an issue of this I think.

You idiot - they kill 4 Jews in Paris for being Jews - and you worry that the Jews will "make an issue of this" and will not just take it lying down???

Well, I bloody hope they will not take it lying down. Charlie was shot up because alwmost everyone abandoned them and they were alone in standing up to the monsters. It is time for the pushy bastards who shoot up newspapers, take hostages in cafes, kill soldiers guarding cenotaphs have their noses bloodied.

Next time there is a menacing crowd of Muslims outside a Parisian synagogue, as it happened recently, I would like to see the Jews go outside, tell them to f Vck off and if the do not, make them f vCk off by any means at their disposal - because waiting for the French state to protect its Jewish citizens while they are menaced by Muslims while shopping in a supermarket is not going to be sufficient to save them.

And of course, NO ISLAM TO SEE HERE.

I was talking about the Israelis well known propensity for revenge, idiot.

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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Fury of Jewish deli victims' families Reply #6 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 11:06pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 10:11pm: High time someone did. well the French are spineless fcks but you do not p!ss Mossad off.
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Reply #7 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 11:46pm

Of all the leaders of the world who showed solidarity at the memorial to the victims in Paris, it was interesting to note who was present and who was not.

Netanyahu was there - Obama was not.

With approximately equal Jewish populations, it seems to a indicate a difference in commitment to respective community interests.

What does that tell you?

Just sayin'.

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Reply #8 - Jan 13^th, 2015 at 11:49pm

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jan 13^th, 2015 at 11:46pm:

Of all the leaders of the world who showed solidarity at the memorial to the victims in Paris, it was interesting to note who was present and who was not.

Netanyahu was there - Obama was not.

With approximately equal Jewish populations, it seems to a indicate a difference in commitment to respective community interests.

What does that tell you?

Just sayin'.

There has already been an acknowledgment by the USA that it should have been represented well above Ambassador level.

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Lionel Edriess Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1932 Gender:	Re: Fury of Jewish deli victims' families Reply #9 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 12:21am By whom? From a presidential level? Or does the president of the 'World Police' deem it below his station to apologise to anyone? The Second American Revolution is going to be ugly.
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Reply #10 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 5:14am

I was shocked when I read that Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would not be attending the funeral of Nelson Mandela in South Africa because it was too expensive to travel there. Seriously?

To be perfectly clear, I write these words as someone who stands with Israel and who thinks well of Mr. Netanyahu. But truth is truth, and there’s a good reason that the prime minister’s excuse for not attending the funeral has caused quite an uproar.

As reported by Christa Case Bryant in the Christian Science Monitor, the simple fact that Mr. Netanyahu did not attend the funeral was serious in itself: “While the Israeli leader's absence may have gone relatively unnoticed in South Africa, it has caused consternation in Israel. Detractors argue that missing the memorial of a man who championed freedom and brought down apartheid gives fresh fodder to critics who say Israel, too, has constructed an apartheid system and is insincere about reconciling with Palestinians after decades of conflict.”

http://townhall.com/columnists/michaelbrown/2013/12/13/why-did-prime-minister-netanyahu-skip-nelson-mandelas-funeral-n1762571/page/full

Hollande asked Netanyahu not to attend Paris memorial march

Absence sought as part of attempt to keep Israeli-Palestinian conflict out of European show of unity; After Netanyahu insisted on coming, French made it clear Abbas would be invited as well.

French President Francois Hollande conveyed a message to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over the weekend asking him not to come to Paris to take part in the march against terror on Sunday, according to an Israeli source who was privy to the contacts between the Elysees Palace and the Prime Minister’s Office in Jerusalem. The fact that this message had been conveyed was first reported by Channel 2.

After the French government began to send invitations to world leaders to participate in the rally against terror, Hollande’s national security adviser, Jacques Audibert, contacted his Israeli counterpart, Yossi Cohen, and said that Hollande would prefer that Netanyahu not attend, the source said.

Audibert explained that Hollande wanted the event to focus on demonstrating solidarity with France, and to avoid anything liable to divert attention to other controversial issues, like Jewish-Muslim relations or the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Audibert said that Hollande hoped that Netanyahu would understand the difficulties his arrival might pose and would announce that he would not be attending.

The source noted that one of the French concerns - not conveyed to representatives of the Israeli government - was that Netanyahu would take advantage of the event for campaign purposes and make speeches, especially about the Jews of France. Such statements, the Elysee Palace feared, would hurt the demonstration of solidarity the French government was trying to promote as part of dealing with the terror attacks.

According to the source, Netanyahu at first acquiesced to the French request. In any case, the Shin Bet security service unit that protects public figures considered the arrangements for the prime minister’s security to be complex. And so, on Saturday evening, Netanyahu’s people announced that he would not be flying to Paris because of security concerns. Netanyahu told the French he would come to France on Tuesday for a Jewish community event.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.636557

Then Netanyahu backflipped and went, against France's wishes. The man has no ethics.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Fury of Jewish deli victims' families Reply #11 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 7:30am The Jews will counter attack. Who would have thunk it? More innocent lives lost.
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Reply #12 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:23am

____ wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 5:14am:

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Hollande asked Netanyahu not to attend Paris memorial march

Absence sought as part of attempt to keep Israeli-Palestinian conflict out of European show of unity;

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French President Francois Hollande conveyed a message to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over the weekend asking him not to come to Paris to take part in the march against terror on Sunday,

Interesting.

Personally i was very glad to see Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu [on TV news reels], walking in the front row of the Paris memorial march, .....showing sympathy for the Paris victims, and showing solidarity with the French people, AGAINST THE ISLAMIST OUTRAGE THAT WAS COMMITTED IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.

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"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
Except those who repent before you have them in your power; so know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
Koran 5.33, 34

Yadda wrote on Dec 30^th, 2014 at 8:25am:

ISLAMIC LAW teaches - EVERY MOSLEM - that murdering those who are not moslems [i.e. those who reject ISLAM], is a lawful act.

That 'precept' of faith is mainstream within ISLAM.

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Julius Abbott Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 792 Gender:	Re: Fury of Jewish deli victims' families Reply #13 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:28am Perhaps the Jews and Israelis could concern themselves with an equitable resolution with the Arabs rather than seek to kill people a all the time.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Fury of Jewish deli victims' families Reply #14 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:32am Julius Abbott wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 10:28am: Perhaps the Jews and Israelis could concern themselves with an equitable resolution with the Arabs rather than seek to kill people a all the time. I' d guess they will, when the Muslim extremists show the same concern..
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