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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:22pm http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/world/charlie-hebdo-attack-islamic-state-says-pu...
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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Reply #1 - Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:32pm Somebody should air drop a few million copies over the middle east, the krazy koran bashing loons would go nuts and start killing each other and burning everything, that would be funny
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Reply #2 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 11:47pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 14^th, 2015 at 9:32pm:

Somebody should air drop a few million copies over the middle east, the krazy koran bashing loons would go nuts and start killing each other and burning everything, that would be funny Grin

I'm wondering how many charlie hebdo editions it would take to destroy a mosque if dropped from the air... Cheesy

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Reply #3 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 6:09am What a waste, if it's true, which I doubt. Nobody will bother with Charlie Hebdo next week when the next world drama is released.
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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #4 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 9:16am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 6:09am:

What a waste, if it's true, which I doubt.

Nobody will bother with Charlie Hebdo next week when the next world drama is released.

like the waste of 12 lives you mean?>.

at least pansi you kind of agree with me...

was the cartoon worth those lives??.. I cant see it I really cant..

and now they are stirring up the already angry terrorists.. and they are mad enough to blow up more innocent people..........all for a cartoon that only amuses the few...

when will they ever learn...

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49068 At my desk.	Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Reply #5 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 9:52am Cods if we refrained from publishing this, do you think that would satisfy the extremists?
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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #6 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 10:05am

freediver wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 9:52am:

Cods if we refrained from publishing this, do you think that would satisfy the extremists?

they would have one less fire to flame...

you see I dont see the point of flaming this?> do you?

do you think it will make us stronger more POWERFUL.. do you think it will solve any more issues these madmen have??

if we keep flaming this?

i see it as a fireman putting petrol on the fire....

it will make it worse.....

AND FOR WHAT?

fd if you can give ONE good reason why this cartoon should go on.... I could change my opinion...

ONLY ONE mind...what good or benefit to the world did Charlies cartoon do?..

remember it enraged a lot of people....some very extreme......

do you think they had any right to be enraged???..

did you think the cartoon was provocative?..

can you tell me why withdrawing the cartoon.. makes us look cowards?

when you are looking in the eye of evil.....

would you just give him another poke just for the fun of it?...

I feel we are making HATE even worse....I have not seen one answer to how this cartoon made the world a better place...why it was worth 12 lives...

please tell me there was something worthwhile in all of this..

now we have France in terror...even Belgium...was it worth it???...printing that cartoon..

please give me a good reason to say it was..

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Reply #7 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 10:56am

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they would have one less fire to flame...

Can you answer a simple question? If we refrained from publishing this, do you think that would satisfy the extremists?

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do you think it will make us stronger more POWERFUL

Yes.

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do you think it will solve any more issues these madmen have?

No.

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i see it as a fireman putting petrol on the fire....

Perhaps if you saw reality rather than idiotic, useless analogies, you wouldn't have such trouble comprehending this issue.

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fd if you can give ONE good reason why this cartoon should go on.... I could change my opinion...

To protect freedom of speech, and all our rights and freedoms. I have pointed this out to you before, but you steadfastly ignore it. Do you see freedom of speech as something valuable and worth protecting?

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do you think they had any right to be enraged???..

Sure. They have a right to pop a vein.

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can you tell me why withdrawing the cartoon.. makes us look cowards?

Because it is a cowardly and stupid thing to do. It would encourage every other would-be terrorist to slaughter people for political goals. It would be like handing over your Jews to Hitler, in the hope that he will not come after your Poles.

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Reply #8 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 11:04am

freediver wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

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they would have one less fire to flame...

Can you answer a simple question? If we refrained from publishing this, do you think that would satisfy the extremists?

in the instance of us insulting them

YES.

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do you think it will make us stronger more POWERFUL

Yes.

so you think Paris armed to the teeth is stronger

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do you think it will solve any more issues these madmen have?

No.

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i see it as a fireman putting petrol on the fire....

Perhaps if you saw reality rather than idiotic, useless analogies, you wouldn't have such trouble comprehending this issue.

what is YOUR reality... playing with fire sure wont burn down anything,is that how it works..

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fd if you can give ONE good reason why this cartoon should go on.... I could change my opinion...

To protect freedom of speech, and all our rights and freedoms. I have pointed this out to you before, but you steadfastly ignore it. Do you see freedom of speech as something valuable and worth protecting?

REALLY yet if I use the M word on here guess what happens to YOUR FREE SPEECH>

its ok I know you dont want to address your versions of FS>.

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do you think they had any right to be enraged???..

Sure. They have a right to pop a vein.

\ AND KILL YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THAT
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can you tell me why withdrawing the cartoon.. makes us look cowards?

Because it is a cowardly and stupid thing to do. It would encourage every other would-be terrorist to slaughter people for political goals. It would be like handing over your Jews to Hitler, in the hope that he will not come after your Poles.

SINCE WHEN HAS INSULTING SOMEONES RELIGION ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH.. BEEN POLITICAL??...

me thinks it its you that is now using obscure reasons to keep doing what you are accusing them of doing..

to me you are no different..

you crack on about FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. yet you dont allow it on your own forum....

and guess what..

its YOUR version of FREEDOM OF SPEECH...you rule the forum with..

no one else get asked... its what you decide...and you say that anyone else who thinks like you do....

is a bully and will only want more... Roll Eyes

if that wasnt so hypocritical I would LOL. Angry

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Reply #9 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 11:05am you answer a SIMPLE question' how come you can STOP FREEDOM OF SPEECH but no one else can..hypocrite.
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Reply #10 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 11:11am

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how come you can STOP FREEDOM OF SPEECH but no one else can..hypocrite.

Here's another question Cods cannot bring herself to answer. Do you think freedom of speech means you can compel me to publish anything you want? I think cods is deliberating misunderstanding this point because she is desperate for a reason, any reason, to undermine freedom of speech. She is doing the bidding of the terrorists. She actually wants them to succeed in destroying freedom of speech.

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SINCE WHEN HAS INSULTING SOMEONES RELIGION ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH.. BEEN POLITICAL??...

Since about 700 AD.

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to me you are no different..

To what? People who kill others to silence them? Do you loose your voice if you cannot access this forum?

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Reply #11 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 11:41am

I too do not see the point of those cartoons other than to commercially feed off the ignorant. To me, Freedom of speech should at least mean contructive criticism. But alas I should not let my view of what should be freedom of speech impinge on other people views of freedom of speech.

With Freedom of speech comes with individual responsibilities. Meaning the acknowledgement that whatever you say will have consequences. So, for example, if some kid come up to me, and say: green eyes are dumb. Then, he/she can expect me to retaliate by not talking to them. But thats just me, some nut head green eyed person may just turn around and kill him/her. The same goes with Charlie Hebdo, who published some really stupid rubbish of a revered figure, despite it was warned by extremists not to. So, as such, they had to expect consequences. Now, I fully condemn the action of killing people over some cartoon drawings, but hey, the world is full of nut heads.

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Reply #12 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:16pm

freediver wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

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how come you can STOP FREEDOM OF SPEECH but no one else can..hypocrite.

Here's another question Cods cannot bring herself to answer. Do you think freedom of speech means you can compel me to publish anything you want? I think cods is deliberating misunderstanding this point because she is desperate for a reason, any reason, to undermine freedom of speech. She is doing the bidding of the terrorists. She actually wants them to succeed in destroying freedom of speech.

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SINCE WHEN HAS INSULTING SOMEONES RELIGION ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH.. BEEN POLITICAL??...

Since about 700 AD.

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to me you are no different..

To what? People who kill others to silence them? Do you loose your voice if you cannot access this forum?

no I am not... I am asking you to tell me WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR VERSION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT MUSLIMS CANNOT>>>.

then I will answer your question for what its worth....

we are not talking about ACCESS TO YOUR FORUM>.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN INSULTING CARTOON.. AND AN INSULTING WORD...

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS...

I LIKE THE M WORD I WANT TO USE IT ALL THE TIME.. M..BUT FD WONT LET ME.....

YET I AM BOUND BY HIS RULES TO LOOK AT INSULTING CARTOONS...

THATS OK..

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Reply #13 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:19pm

cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 11:11am:

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how come you can STOP FREEDOM OF SPEECH but no one else can..hypocrite.

Here's another question Cods cannot bring herself to answer. Do you think freedom of speech means you can compel me to publish anything you want? I think cods is deliberating misunderstanding this point because she is desperate for a reason, any reason, to undermine freedom of speech. She is doing the bidding of the terrorists. She actually wants them to succeed in destroying freedom of speech.

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SINCE WHEN HAS INSULTING SOMEONES RELIGION ENOUGH TO CAUSE DEATH.. BEEN POLITICAL??...

Since about 700 AD.

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to me you are no different..

To what? People who kill others to silence them? Do you loose your voice if you cannot access this forum?

no I am not... I am asking you to tell me WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR VERSION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT MUSLIMS CANNOT>>>.

then I will answer your question for what its worth....

we are not talking about ACCESS TO YOUR FORUM>.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN INSULTING CARTOON.. AND AN INSULTING WORD...

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS...

I LIKE THE M WORD I WANT TO USE IT ALL THE TIME.. M..BUT FD WONT LET ME.....

YET I AM BOUND BY HIS RULES TO LOOK AT INSULTING CARTOONS...

THATS OK..

You could always press the off button Roll Eyes

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #14 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:23pm

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 11:41am:

I too do not see the point of those cartoons other than to commercially feed off the ignorant. To me, Freedom of speech should at least mean contructive criticism. But alas I should not let my view of what should be freedom of speech impinge on other people views of freedom of speech.

With Freedom of speech comes with individual responsibilities. Meaning the acknowledgement that whatever you say will have consequences. So, for example, if some kid come up to me, and say: green eyes are dumb. Then, he/she can expect me to retaliate by not talking to them. But thats just me, some nut head green eyed person may just turn around and kill him/her. The same goes with Charlie Hebdo, who published some really stupid rubbish of a revered figure, [highlight]despite it was warned by extremists not to. So, as such, they had to expect consequences. Now, I fully condem[/highlight]n the action of killing people over some cartoon drawings, but hey, the world is full of nut heads.

ahhhhhhhhh at least one person understands what I have spent days saying...

its not about what is.. its about the consequences.... were they worth it????....

nut heads we have our share.. but I know we in OZ are safe we have all these people with their FREEDOM OF SPEECH banners.......

but only on my terms

preventing the baddies from getting to us... whew..

I wonder how many copies of the magazine have been ordered by our bwave members...

who will fight for a cartoon.

I will be expecting them to be selling never bow to a terrorist T/shirts next....its an honor to fight them.. Roll Eyes

... get behind me cods I will save you even though I think you are wrong...

fine......I will leave you to it then..

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