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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #15 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:35pm

How far would you go to appease terrorists Cods?

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no I am not... I am asking you to tell me WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR VERSION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT MUSLIMS CANNOT>>>.

That does not even make sense cods. What version of freedom of speech is being denied to Muslims?

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we are not talking about ACCESS TO YOUR FORUM>.

So why do you keep bringing it up, over and over again? Have you realised now how stupid this was, so you are pretending it was never under discussion, despite you bringing it up repeatedly to prove some kind of point?

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CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS...

Perhaps if I knew what you were on about. Do you need me to explain again the difference between free speech and compelling someone to publish your speech? Have you really not grasped the concept yet?

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its not about what is.. its about the consequences.... were they worth it????....

It is about the consequences you fail to understand or cannot even see. In your own little world the only consequences are a cartoon and a few dead cartoonists. In reality, there are consequences for everyone's liberty, especially if we try to appease terrorists like you want.

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #16 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 2:30pm

freediver wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:35pm:

How far would you go to appease terrorists Cods?

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no I am not... I am asking you to tell me WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR VERSION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT MUSLIMS CANNOT>>>.

That does not even make sense cods. What version of freedom of speech is being denied to Muslims?

Quote:

we are not talking about ACCESS TO YOUR FORUM>.

So why do you keep bringing it up, over and over again? Have you realised now how stupid this was, so you are pretending it was never under discussion, despite you bringing it up repeatedly to prove some kind of point?

Quote:

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS...

Perhaps if I knew what you were on about. Do you need me to explain again the difference between free speech and compelling someone to publish your speech? Have you really not grasped the concept yet?

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its not about what is.. its about the consequences.... were they worth it????....

It is about the consequences you fail to understand or cannot even see. In your own little world the only consequences are a cartoon and a few dead cartoonists. In reality, there are consequences for everyone's liberty, especially if we try to appease terrorists like you want.

IF i KNEW WHAT YOU WERE ON ABOUT IT WOULD HELP.

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #17 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:16pm

cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:35pm:

How far would you go to appease terrorists Cods?

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no I am not... I am asking you to tell me WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR VERSION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT MUSLIMS CANNOT>>>.

That does not even make sense cods. What version of freedom of speech is being denied to Muslims?

Quote:

we are not talking about ACCESS TO YOUR FORUM>.

So why do you keep bringing it up, over and over again? Have you realised now how stupid this was, so you are pretending it was never under discussion, despite you bringing it up repeatedly to prove some kind of point?

Quote:

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS...

Perhaps if I knew what you were on about. Do you need me to explain again the difference between free speech and compelling someone to publish your speech? Have you really not grasped the concept yet?

Quote:

its not about what is.. its about the consequences.... were they worth it????....

It is about the consequences you fail to understand or cannot even see. In your own little world the only consequences are a cartoon and a few dead cartoonists. In reality, there are consequences for everyone's liberty, especially if we try to appease terrorists like you want.

IF i KNEW WHAT YOU WERE ON ABOUT IT WOULD HELP.

I get it now. All those fights between you and Spot of Borg were all a big show. You are Borg! You have been assimilated!

It is the only explanation.

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed Reply #18 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:18pm many blessings big deal ... ? just the media reporting on murdoch and kissenger rothchilds et all buying up useless paper saturated with propaganda inciting confusions.. this is observed yet exposed and so be it namaste - : ) =
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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #19 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:18pm

Quantum wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:35pm:

How far would you go to appease terrorists Cods?

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no I am not... I am asking you to tell me WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR VERSION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT MUSLIMS CANNOT>>>.

That does not even make sense cods. What version of freedom of speech is being denied to Muslims?

Quote:

we are not talking about ACCESS TO YOUR FORUM>.

So why do you keep bringing it up, over and over again? Have you realised now how stupid this was, so you are pretending it was never under discussion, despite you bringing it up repeatedly to prove some kind of point?

Quote:

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS...

Perhaps if I knew what you were on about. Do you need me to explain again the difference between free speech and compelling someone to publish your speech? Have you really not grasped the concept yet?

Quote:

its not about what is.. its about the consequences.... were they worth it????....

It is about the consequences you fail to understand or cannot even see. In your own little world the only consequences are a cartoon and a few dead cartoonists. In reality, there are consequences for everyone's liberty, especially if we try to appease terrorists like you want.

IF i KNEW WHAT YOU WERE ON ABOUT IT WOULD HELP.

I get it now. All those fights between you and Spot of Borg were all a big show. You are Borg! You have been assimilated!

It is the only explanation.

BORG !

namaste

- : ) =

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #20 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 4:56pm

cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:23pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 11:41am:

I too do not see the point of those cartoons other than to commercially feed off the ignorant. To me, Freedom of speech should at least mean contructive criticism. But alas I should not let my view of what should be freedom of speech impinge on other people views of freedom of speech.

With Freedom of speech comes with individual responsibilities. Meaning the acknowledgement that whatever you say will have consequences. So, for example, if some kid come up to me, and say: green eyes are dumb. Then, he/she can expect me to retaliate by not talking to them. But thats just me, some nut head green eyed person may just turn around and kill him/her. The same goes with Charlie Hebdo, who published some really stupid rubbish of a revered figure, [highlight]despite it was warned by extremists not to. So, as such, they had to expect consequences. Now, I fully condem[/highlight]n the action of killing people over some cartoon drawings, but hey, the world is full of nut heads.

ahhhhhhhhh at least one person understands what I have spent days saying...

its not about what is.. its about the consequences.... were they worth it????....

nut heads we have our share.. but I know we in OZ are safe we have all these people with their FREEDOM OF SPEECH banners.......

but only on my terms

preventing the baddies from getting to us... whew..

I wonder how many copies of the magazine have been ordered by our bwave members...

who will fight for a cartoon.

I will be expecting them to be selling never bow to a terrorist T/shirts next....its an honor to fight them.. Roll Eyes

... get behind me cods I will save you even though I think you are wrong...

fine......I will leave you to it then..

I'm with you guys too. I see exactly where you're coming from. I wonder if those people that were murdered would have kept going with the offensive cartoons if they had their time over again? They would have to be stupid if they did, knowing they're signing their death warrant just to make fun of some madman's God.

I'm pretty sure they would be happy to make fun of fat people or ranga's or religions with less fanatics. Unfortunately, no second chances.

Emma the t shirts.....I could imagine tens of thousands sold but never one to be spotted on the streets, they just wouldn't be caught dead in them.

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #21 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 5:03pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 4:56pm:

cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:23pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 11:41am:

I too do not see the point of those cartoons other than to commercially feed off the ignorant. To me, Freedom of speech should at least mean contructive criticism. But alas I should not let my view of what should be freedom of speech impinge on other people views of freedom of speech.

With Freedom of speech comes with individual responsibilities. Meaning the acknowledgement that whatever you say will have consequences. So, for example, if some kid come up to me, and say: green eyes are dumb. Then, he/she can expect me to retaliate by not talking to them. But thats just me, some nut head green eyed person may just turn around and kill him/her. The same goes with Charlie Hebdo, who published some really stupid rubbish of a revered figure, [highlight]despite it was warned by extremists not to. So, as such, they had to expect consequences. Now, I fully condem[/highlight]n the action of killing people over some cartoon drawings, but hey, the world is full of nut heads.

ahhhhhhhhh at least one person understands what I have spent days saying...

its not about what is.. its about the consequences.... were they worth it????....

nut heads we have our share.. but I know we in OZ are safe we have all these people with their FREEDOM OF SPEECH banners.......

but only on my terms

preventing the baddies from getting to us... whew..

I wonder how many copies of the magazine have been ordered by our bwave members...

who will fight for a cartoon.

I will be expecting them to be selling never bow to a terrorist T/shirts next....its an honor to fight them.. Roll Eyes

... get behind me cods I will save you even though I think you are wrong...

fine......I will leave you to it then..

I'm with you guys too. I see exactly where you're coming from. I wonder if those people that were murdered would have kept going with the offensive cartoons if they had their time over again? They would have to be stupid if they did, knowing they're signing their death warrant just to make fun of some madman's God.

I'm pretty sure they would be happy to make fun of fat people or ranga's or religions with less fanatics. Unfortunately, no second chances.

Emma the t shirts.....I could imagine tens of thousands sold but never one to be spotted on the streets, they just wouldn't be caught dead in them.

Gee, no surprise there...and YES the VICTIMS (which is what you mean by saying 'the people who were 'MURDERED') would have get posting those REAL (not 'offensive') cartoons, given the option...

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #22 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 6:00am

Gee, no surprise there...and YES the VICTIMS (which is what you mean by saying 'the people who were 'MURDERED') would have get posting those REAL (not 'offensive') cartoons, given the option...

Getting pedantic gizmo, MURDERED people are VICTIMS, VICTIMS are those people that have been MURDERED, that's exactly what I meant.

If they had a second chance they would most likely continue to publish offensive cartoons, just not the ones offensive to Islam. Fat people or red heads don't usually kill because of cartoons. No I'm not a fat red head lol! I'm using that as an example.

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #23 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 6:11am

spot of borg???.... what Hitler been shafted???...

Grin

Quantum wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

I get it now. All those fights between you and Spot of Borg were all a big show. You are Borg! You have been assimilated!

It is the only explanation.

you will now cop all sort of weird abuse pansi....how dare you think a mindless cartoon is not worth dying for....

unless of course its someone else in far away country..
'
now its bring back Spot of Borg... whom I hardly ever had anything to so with....

.but it helps those who think cartoons that are[ NOT OFFENSIVE TO THEM].... Roll Eyes

are worth someone else dying for... Roll Eyes

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #24 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:28am

cods wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 6:11am:

spot of borg???.... what Hitler been shafted???...

Grin

Quantum wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

I get it now. All those fights between you and Spot of Borg were all a big show. You are Borg! You have been assimilated!

It is the only explanation.

you will now cop all sort of weird abuse pansi....how dare you think a mindless cartoon is not worth dying for....

unless of course its someone else in far away country..
'
now its bring back Spot of Borg... whom I hardly ever had anything to so with....

.but it helps those who think cartoons that are[ NOT OFFENSIVE TO THEM].... Roll Eyes

are worth someone else dying for... Roll Eyes

you are just acting stupid now, cods. just like the pedo debates, you are utterly incapable of understanding an argument.

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #25 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 9:21am

cods wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:35pm:

How far would you go to appease terrorists Cods?

Quote:

no I am not... I am asking you to tell me WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR VERSION OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT MUSLIMS CANNOT>>>.

That does not even make sense cods. What version of freedom of speech is being denied to Muslims?

Quote:

we are not talking about ACCESS TO YOUR FORUM>.

So why do you keep bringing it up, over and over again? Have you realised now how stupid this was, so you are pretending it was never under discussion, despite you bringing it up repeatedly to prove some kind of point?

Quote:

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS...

Perhaps if I knew what you were on about. Do you need me to explain again the difference between free speech and compelling someone to publish your speech? Have you really not grasped the concept yet?

Quote:

its not about what is.. its about the consequences.... were they worth it????....

It is about the consequences you fail to understand or cannot even see. In your own little world the only consequences are a cartoon and a few dead cartoonists. In reality, there are consequences for everyone's liberty, especially if we try to appease terrorists like you want.

IF i KNEW WHAT YOU WERE ON ABOUT IT WOULD HELP.

So this is what it has come to eh cods? Pretending you don't speak English any more? I guess standing up for what you believe in isn't worth it if people criticise you for it hey cods? Just run away and start posting it again when you think no-one will notice your slimy appeasement propaganda.

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I'm with you guys too. I see exactly where you're coming from. I wonder if those people that were murdered would have kept going with the offensive cartoons if they had their time over again? They would have to be stupid if they did, knowing they're signing their death warrant just to make fun of some madman's God.

Pansi are you blind to the implications for freedom of speech? They had been firebombed, hacked and threatened before. Even now the magazine is still mocking Islam. You have no clue what is going on. Not everyone else is so keen to abandong their principles and freedoms as you and cods. Which is lucky for you or you'd be living in a dictatorship.

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #28 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 11:01am

Freedom of speech 'is' worth fighting for and worth dying for. Our sons and daughters are still doing it.

It must be preserved at all costs.

Can you imagine a world rung by ISIS?

You wouldn't have to imagine it for long because if ISIS ruled the World, there would be no Christians nor Western infidels. We would all be dead in the biggest blood bath to ever to hit mankind.

And that is why we must fight them, everywhere they spread their message of vitriolic hate.

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Re: 2 million more Charlie Hebdo copies to be printed
Reply #29 - Jan 17^th, 2015 at 11:03am

cods wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 6:11am:

spot of borg???.... what Hitler been shafted???...

Grin

Quantum wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

I get it now. All those fights between you and Spot of Borg were all a big show. You are Borg! You have been assimilated!

It is the only explanation.

you will now cop all sort of weird abuse pansi....how dare you think a mindless cartoon is not worth dying for....

unless of course its someone else in far away country..
'
now its bring back Spot of Borg... whom I hardly ever had anything to so with....

.but it helps those who think cartoons that are[ NOT OFFENSIVE TO THEM].... Roll Eyes

are worth someone else dying for... Roll Eyes

Who gives a fig about poking shyte at Muslims, not me. But for those of you who get some weird kick out of it......do it, but don't drag others in.

I do however get a kick out of having the odd stab at Christians (the hypocritical longy types) but if a mad Christian threatened to chop my head off, Id stop doing it, no doubt about that.

There's a time to speak

and a time to shut the hell up

These guys haven't learnt that yet.

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