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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #60 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:23am

I'd like you all to consider this:-

The woman who unlocked the door for these murderers must be feeling almost terminally guilty, especially since she was allowed to live.

On the other hand, it is easy to say the idea is to refuse to do what they want because they will kill you anyway and at least others will not die..... but in a real situation like that most people will do as they are told at gunpoint and hope not to die.

She must be feeling ... indescribable.

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #61 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:23am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

In reality, blaming the magazine staff for the actions of some religious whackjobs is akin to blaming rape victims for the actions of the rapists, or (since this is Ozpol), blaming victims of paedophile priests for being molested.

you still havent answered me..

was the CARTOON worth 17 people to die for

I know all about the high and mighty response..

giving in is like telling the paedos they have free reign... yeah right...thats like claiming we HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY and we will fight to the death for it..

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so be it..

damn, you are cowardly.

so be it..

I am waiting for someone anyone to JUSTIFY 17 deaths.....for a cartoon...

what good did that c artoon do for mankind??....

it must have done something great.. to see those fighting and risking their lives that they will go on...

its very important to our freedom apparently they we have these cartoons out there??...

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #62 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:25am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:22am:

sir Nail,
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The next thing is to stop pandering to religious institutions and stop them brainwashing children at such a young age with their god gobbing muck. No school should be funded if it is aligned with any religious institution. Religious institutions should be taxed on their takings and should not be given tax free charity status. If these people need material money to operate then they can pray to their imaginary gods for the money they need.

After 1000's of years of abuse it's time to stop the rot and religious indoctrination of the public !!

Hear hear Sir Nail,
And that includes Longy's church - the Hillsong - God wants you to be rich church.

All of them - no exemptions !!

Starve them of material money and they will soon disappear Wink

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #63 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:28am

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

In reality, blaming the magazine staff for the actions of some religious whackjobs is akin to blaming rape victims for the actions of the rapists, or (since this is Ozpol), blaming victims of paedophile priests for being molested.

you still havent answered me..

was the CARTOON worth 17 people to die for

I know all about the high and mighty response..

giving in is like telling the paedos they have free reign... yeah right...thats like claiming we HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY and we will fight to the death for it..

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so be it..

damn, you are cowardly.

so be it..

I am waiting for someone anyone to JUSTIFY 17 deaths.....for a cartoon...

what good did that c artoon do for mankind??....

it must have done something great.. to see those fighting and risking their lives that they will go on...

its very important to our freedom apparently they we have these cartoons out there??...

You're blaming the wrong people. It's like killing 17 people because you got offended by a Mickey Mouse comic. There is no justification because both Muhammad and Mickey Mouse are fictional characters.

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #64 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:31am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:25am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:22am:

sir Nail,
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The next thing is to stop pandering to religious institutions and stop them brainwashing children at such a young age with their god gobbing muck. No school should be funded if it is aligned with any religious institution. Religious institutions should be taxed on their takings and should not be given tax free charity status. If these people need material money to operate then they can pray to their imaginary gods for the money they need.

After 1000's of years of abuse it's time to stop the rot and religious indoctrination of the public !!

Hear hear Sir Nail,
And that includes Longy's church - the Hillsong - God wants you to be rich church.

All of them - no exemptions !!

Starve them of material money and they will soon disappear Wink

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yes sir Nail,

it's called the prosperity message & is preached by Longy's church.

The lavish homes of American archbishops

Records reveal that 10 of the country's top church leaders defy the Pope's example and live in residences worth more than $1 million.

Chicago's Cardinal Francis George lives in a pretty fancy crib, too.
This mansion has 19 chimneys and sits on 1.7 acres of prime real estate in Chicago's ritzy Gold Coast neighborhood. It's worth $14.3 million "as is," but the property could fetch far more, appraisers told CNN.

George, whose private quarters occupy the mansion's top two floors, according to the archdiocese, shares the residence with two bishops and a priest.

Three nuns who care for the cardinal and his mansion live in a 5,800-square-foot coach house near the main residence.

http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2014/08/us/american-archbishops-lavish-homes/

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #65 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:31am

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Cods, just because the extremists believe it doesn't mean that the staff at the magazine are required to.
And yes, given the right situation, I would tell them to go away and not kill over something so trivial. Yes, I understand they might shoot me, however that's not the point.
Giving in is the wrong response

ok so being killed or getting your staff killed// is not the point.....is not the point..is not the point...

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so if you were being robbed by a man with an AK47 who said he would kill you if you didnt hand over all you have......

you would tell him NO DEAL....

because it would go against your belief "giving in" mean failure.... not commonsense..

"principle" it is worth dying for.

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #66 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:36am

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:31am:

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Cods, just because the extremists believe it doesn't mean that the staff at the magazine are required to.
And yes, given the right situation, I would tell them to go away and not kill over something so trivial. Yes, I understand they might shoot me, however that's not the point.
Giving in is the wrong response

ok so being killed or getting your staff killed// is not the point.....is not the point..is not the point...

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so if you were being robbed by a man with an AK47 who said he would kill you if you didnt hand over all you have......

you would tell him NO DEAL....

because it would go against your belief "giving in" mean failure.... not commonsense..

"principle" it is worth dying for.

Sometimes principles are worth standing up for and need be, dying for, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE NEED TO STAND UP TO BULLIES, especially ISLAMO FASCIST ONES,

Not cower in extreme embarrassing cowardice as you have displayed here.

Sorry cods, but that needed to be said.

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #67 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:40am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:28am:

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

In reality, blaming the magazine staff for the actions of some religious whackjobs is akin to blaming rape victims for the actions of the rapists, or (since this is Ozpol), blaming victims of paedophile priests for being molested.

you still havent answered me..

was the CARTOON worth 17 people to die for

I know all about the high and mighty response..

giving in is like telling the paedos they have free reign... yeah right...thats like claiming we HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY and we will fight to the death for it..

Roll Eyes

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so be it..

damn, you are cowardly.

so be it..

I am waiting for someone anyone to JUSTIFY 17 deaths.....for a cartoon...

what good did that c artoon do for mankind??....

it must have done something great.. to see those fighting and risking their lives that they will go on...

its very important to our freedom apparently they we have these cartoons out there??...

You're blaming the wrong people. It's like killing 17 people because you got offended by a Mickey Mouse comic. There is no justification because both Muhammad and Mickey Mouse are fictional characters.

where did I say that???.....I am not blaming anyone...

I AM ASKING A QUESTION..

would you put the lives of 17 members of your family at risk..

because you felt it was right to draw an insulting cartoon....

no one is talking about justice we are talking about madmen..who say they will kill if you dont stop drawing those cartoons....

they didnt care what type of cartoon the company drew as long as it didnt humiliate their god...

why was that such a BIG DEAL to ask for...

so far all I have had back is

well it doesnt make sense..

I dont mind if they make fun of my god..

why should they mind...

why dont they suck it up...

no one will tell me what to draw and not draw FREEDOM OF SPEECH And all that..this is my country blah blah blah..

I tell you what I bet if your neighbour had a house full of guns.. and complained about your loud music I bet I know what you would do..

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #68 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:51am

If theres a poisonous snake in your back yard, leave it alone.

If it tries to come into your house where your wife and kids are , get out the shottie and blast its fool ass, then go into the back yard and blast its brothers , its sisters, its children, the garden hose (for looking like a snake) and a piece of rope ( for looking like a snake).

Islamic terrorists in Syria are hanging out in their back yard, let them be.
Islamic terrorists in OZ, Europe and the USA have ventured into the house. Wink

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #69 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:54am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:51am:

If theres a poisonous snake in your back yard, leave it alone.

If it tries to come into your house where your wife and kids are , get out the shottie and blast its fool ass, then go into the back yard and blast its brothers , its sisters, its children, the garden hose (for looking like a snake) and a piece of rope ( for looking like a snake).

Islamic terrorists in Syria are hanging out in their back yard, let them be,
Islamic terrorists in OZ, Europe and the USA have ventured into the house. Wink

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you have a gun,... I dont..and no one I know has a gun..

and as far as I know.. all those innocent bystanders didnt have guns either...

these extremists are not snakes...who are usually more scared of humans than we of them...

they are armed murderers?.. who have not a thing to lose.

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Reply #70 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 11:02am

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:10am:

stryder wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:03am:

Cods, more and more I am finding your cowering and submission (which is the meaning of the word Islam) to the ISLAMO FACIST BULLIES truly disturbing.

If these same people attacked women for not wearing the Hijab, niqab or burka

You probably jump in fear and wear one.

Using cods logic, extreme violence is totally rewarded.

THe most violent are right, no matter what they believe in. It is proved by their extremism.

You are wrong cods. Your thinking is dangerous to freedom.

ok I dont mind being wrong.....

but you believe inflaming the fire is better than trying to put it out...

what danger is it to FREEDOM you claim you have..

withdrawing a insulting cartoon.... Roll Eyes

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enlighten me.... as thinking is dangerous to freedom..and your thinking killed 17 people..

muslims killed 17 people.

this time.

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Reply #71 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 11:09am

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:40am:

where did I say that???.....I am not blaming anyone...

I AM ASKING A QUESTION..

would you put the lives of 17 members of your family at risk..

because you felt it was right to draw an insulting cartoon....

no one is talking about justice we are talking about madmen..who say they will kill if you dont stop drawing those cartoons....

they didnt care what type of cartoon the company drew as long as it didnt humiliate their god...

why was that such a BIG DEAL to ask for...

so far all I have had back is

well it doesnt make sense..

I dont mind if they make fun of my god..

why should they mind...

why dont they suck it up...

no one will tell me what to draw and not draw FREEDOM OF SPEECH And all that..this is my country blah blah blah..

I tell you what I bet if your neighbour had a house full of guns.. and complained about your loud music I bet I know what you would do..

It is not right to tolerate and respect and bow to people who will kill you for a cartoon.

This is why there is such a massive tension between Islam and the West - two completely different outlooks and value systems.
This is why Muslim immigration is hugely problematic in ways, say, atheist or Christian or Buddhist immigration into Western countries is not.

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #72 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 11:10am

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

In reality, blaming the magazine staff for the actions of some religious whackjobs is akin to blaming rape victims for the actions of the rapists, or (since this is Ozpol), blaming victims of paedophile priests for being molested.

you still havent answered me..

was the CARTOON worth 17 people to die for

I know all about the high and mighty response..

giving in is like telling the paedos they have free reign... yeah right...thats like claiming we HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY and we will fight to the death for it..

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

so be it..

damn, you are cowardly.

so be it..

I am waiting for someone anyone to JUSTIFY 17 deaths.....for a cartoon...

what good did that c artoon do for mankind??....

it must have done something great.. to see those fighting and risking their lives that they will go on...

its very important to our freedom apparently they we have these cartoons out there??...

Do you look in hindsight at every single death in the world?

How many people get killed just walking to the shops? Do you turn around and say; "buying a bottle of milk... Was it really worth dying for?

There are offices both in business and private residency writing opinions in magazines, blogs, books, etc, that offend people all over the western world. How many have been shot up? Far less than what has been killed walking to the shops.

You have in a short amount of time raked up an insane amount of posts on this forum. I'm sure in your nearly 40k worth of posts you have said something that offended someone. If that person tracked you down and killed you, should we all turn around and say; " I am waiting for someone anyone to JUSTIFY her death.....for a forum post... what good did that post do for mankind??....". I doubt it, because it would be bloody retarded to think like that.

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Reply #73 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 11:16am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:08am:

ian wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 6:32am:

2000 killed by Boko Haram on friday , mainly women and children who didnt publish any satirical cartoons dont even get a mention. The hypocrisy of these people is enormous.

Two wrongs don't make a right. The fact remains that these people are willing to kill others based on criticisms of some bullshit written in some silly old religious text. It's totally absurd !!

not the point though is it? why the outrage over 17 people in France and zero outrage over 2000 who did nothing to attract Msulim terrorism in africa by Boko Haram? why the solidiarity with the French and not the Africans? I know the answer, do you?

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Re: The truth about Charlie hebdo comes out
Reply #74 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 11:17am

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:40am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:28am:

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:20am:

cods wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

In reality, blaming the magazine staff for the actions of some religious whackjobs is akin to blaming rape victims for the actions of the rapists, or (since this is Ozpol), blaming victims of paedophile priests for being molested.

you still havent answered me..

was the CARTOON worth 17 people to die for

I know all about the high and mighty response..

giving in is like telling the paedos they have free reign... yeah right...thats like claiming we HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THIS COUNTRY and we will fight to the death for it..

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

so be it..

damn, you are cowardly.

so be it..

I am waiting for someone anyone to JUSTIFY 17 deaths.....for a cartoon...

what good did that c artoon do for mankind??....

it must have done something great.. to see those fighting and risking their lives that they will go on...

its very important to our freedom apparently they we have these cartoons out there??...

You're blaming the wrong people. It's like killing 17 people because you got offended by a Mickey Mouse comic. There is no justification because both Muhammad and Mickey Mouse are fictional characters.

where did I say that???.....I am not blaming anyone...

I AM ASKING A QUESTION..

would you put the lives of 17 members of your family at risk..

because you felt it was right to draw an insulting cartoon....

no one is talking about justice we are talking about madmen..who say they will kill if you dont stop drawing those cartoons....

they didnt care what type of cartoon the company drew as long as it didnt humiliate their god...

why was that such a BIG DEAL to ask for...

so far all I have had back is

well it doesnt make sense..

I dont mind if they make fun of my god..

why should they mind...

why dont they suck it up...

no one will tell me what to draw and not draw FREEDOM OF SPEECH And all that..this is my country blah blah blah..

I tell you what I bet if your neighbour had a house full of guns.. and complained about your loud music I bet I know what you would do..

Listen. You should have thought about that before you went into Iraq and removed the "evil dictator". Now there is no one to police these radical f.ckwitts who are willing to kill over a comic strip.

Most of these problems we are seeing now is the direct result of the actions of the Coalition of the Killing. Now you lot are talking like you had nothing to do with it.

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

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