ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 16
th, 2015 at 5:26pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 16
th, 2015 at 1:31pm:
Quote:Bobby. wrote on Jan 15
th, 2015 at 11:05am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 15
th, 2015 at 4:19am:
Hypocrisy within hypocrisy: not only are holocaust denial laws an attack on free speech, but in the law itself, one type of genocide denial is allowed while another is not.
Criticising a non - existent God is different to denying the murder
of 6 million Jews & 6 million other people for
which the evidence is over whelming.
There is no elephant in the room.
So just to be clear Bobby, limits to freedom of speech is contingent upon how overwhelming the evidence is on the particular topic in question?
Presumably you would support gaoling/fining people for claiming the earth is flat or that man-made global warming doesn't exist?
The limit on ANY speech should be veracity...based on evidence.
And 'man-made global warming' is still under discussion/dispute.
In this case, claiming that Jews 'made up' the Holocaust for personal ( Jewish) gain is clearly NOT true.
So let's see gizmo. You're saying we should put limits on what a person can say based on what someone decides is proved by the evidence. Absurd!!!
Clearly you're so desperate to justify the double standard of allowing anti Muslim hate speech and bannining anti Jewish hate speech that you come up with this rediculous justification. Global warming you say is still up for discussion. And yet the UN says its beyond doubt. Does that mean you should be put in prison for denying man made GW. And where does that put people with new ideas. Just ignorant!!!! You're absurd double standards are half the reason were in this mess with so called terrorists.
Umm No Global Warming is STILL 'disputed' by scientists who ARE actually AS 'qualified' as the scientists who support it...which makes AGW a 'NEUTRAL' concept, at the moment...so, NO the UN (a political organisation) is WRONG on AGW.
And banning anti-Jewish 'hate speech' (like Holocaust denial, which IS incorrect) is very different to banning Islamic extremist 'hate speech' which IS true, based on the Charlie Hedbo attack, and the the Lindt chocolate attack and any number of OTHER incidents...
Sorry, but Muslim extremists DO , in fact, commit verifiable attacks on Western society, on a regular basis...whereas there is zero proof that the Holocaust idea is anything other than true..
I know you might 'hate' Jews, or Israelis... but actual reality shows that Muslim cause far more deaths and damage than the Jews do.
The fact that were having this argument about what is proved, demonstrates the absurdity of your position. Who decides that something is sufficiently proved that it cannot be denied. Your assertions about global warming are absurd to me and if anyone should go to prison for disseminatin lies it should be GW deniers. Again I say its clear that you're so desperate to impose your double standards for justifying Muslim hate speech that you come up with this rediculous justification. Selective free speech is basically what you are on about. People are free to say what you approve of and not free to say what you disapprove of. No thanks ! You keep your totalitarian state to yourself. I want real democracy thanks very much!
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