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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #15 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:46pm

____ wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 5:22am:

Pope Francis has flown to the Philippines, an island nation frequently hit by natural disasters, declaring that man is primarily responsible for climate change.

Wading into the climate change debate on board the papal plane, the Pope told journalists he hoped negotiators at the next round of climate change talks in Paris in November would take a courageous stand to protect the environment.

"I don't know if it is all (man's fault) but the majority is, for the most part, it is man who continuously slaps down nature," he said.

"We have in a sense taken over nature. I think we have exploited nature too much."

The comments were Pope Francis' clearest on the environment since he pledged to make the issue a priority on the day of his installation as Pope in 2013.

"We have, in a sense, lorded it over nature, over Sister Earth, over Mother Earth," said the leader of 1.2 billion Catholics, who has in the past spoken about the need to protect the environment.

"I think man has gone too far," he said.

"Thank God that today there are voices that are speaking about this."

Greeted in Manila by ecstatic crowds on Thursday evening, Pope Francis will on Saturday travel to Leyte, the island hardest hit by Super Typhoon Haiyan in 2013 and meet with survivors.

More here :

http://www.smh.com.au/world/man-has-gone-too-far-pope-francis-says-we-are-primar...

So some of the god botherers in parliament and on this board are out of step with yah pope.

Denialist of sky fairy faith, is the pope wrong, or are you wrong?

Someone needs to tell the chief Mick that the gravy train is all out of gravy Grin

But then again, the church is in on most of the rorts...may as well appease the 'gods' with some good old witch burning

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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #16 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:46pm

Rider wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:42pm:

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 7:00am:

Anyone who is not a climate scientist who claims that there is no global warming or no man caused global warming is either an ignorant fool or a phenomenally selfish liar. Who are the real terrorists of the 21st century. Not the Muslims but the climate change deniers. Climate change deniers are far more offensive then any muslim terrorist because climate change deniers are far more destructive to their fellow man and the planet then any suicide bomber.

Bullsh1t.

Not bullshit: ImSpartacus is dead on correctamundo Cheesy

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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #17 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:52pm

Rider wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

____ wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 5:22am:

Pope Francis has flown to the Philippines, an island nation frequently hit by natural disasters, declaring that man is primarily responsible for climate change.

Wading into the climate change debate on board the papal plane, the Pope told journalists he hoped negotiators at the next round of climate change talks in Paris in November would take a courageous stand to protect the environment.

"I don't know if it is all (man's fault) but the majority is, for the most part, it is man who continuously slaps down nature," he said.

"We have in a sense taken over nature. I think we have exploited nature too much."

The comments were Pope Francis' clearest on the environment since he pledged to make the issue a priority on the day of his installation as Pope in 2013.

"We have, in a sense, lorded it over nature, over Sister Earth, over Mother Earth," said the leader of 1.2 billion Catholics, who has in the past spoken about the need to protect the environment.

"I think man has gone too far," he said.

"Thank God that today there are voices that are speaking about this."

Greeted in Manila by ecstatic crowds on Thursday evening, Pope Francis will on Saturday travel to Leyte, the island hardest hit by Super Typhoon Haiyan in 2013 and meet with survivors.

More here :

http://www.smh.com.au/world/man-has-gone-too-far-pope-francis-says-we-are-primar...

So some of the god botherers in parliament and on this board are out of step with yah pope.

Denialist of sky fairy faith, is the pope wrong, or are you wrong?

Someone needs to tell the chief Mick that the gravy train is all out of gravy Grin

But then again, the church is in on most of the rorts...may as well appease the 'gods' with some good old witch burning

The church is playing the friendly but indecisive role: it extends the time given to industry to change their tools and plant machinery and strategems for continuation in the new paradigm.

He has certaintly said change is afoot yet not really pushed any need for immediacy... change is scary so you can't expect too much from one bloke!

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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #18 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:54pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:41pm:

Pantheon wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:38pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

Pantheon wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Scientists 'must be emotionally charged' about climate change to highlight its dangers, claims expert..Professor Chris Rapley: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/scientists-must-be-emotionally-charged-about-climate-change-to-highlight-its-dangers-claims-expert-9950692.html

There are so many holes in Climate Change, only last year, we found out the Climate is much less sensitive to Co2 than we thought, the results would mean all projections would be off, however this news was largely ignored..as Scientists continue to use outdate data basted on incorrect models.

Then you have hundreds of peer review studies proving post climate change predictions have their data manipulate to get a result they wont, as the results dont match up with the data thats imputted. http://wmbriggs.com/public/Monckton.et.al.pdf

For example the IPCC has long predicted that doubling the CO2 in the air might eventually warm the Earth by 3.3 oC, and as i point out in another post IPCC has been caught manipulating data (and despite caught lying, we continue to use their projections) However, Majority of small peer -review models predicts no more than 1 oC warming instead—and possibly much less which would much up with the discovery that the Climate is much less sensitive to Co2 than we thought

It seems most climate change believers are blind followers were are blind to huge holes.

Are you using bad english for an ulterior purpose? Roll Eyes

Dyslexia... so i try my best.

Also address my points, or you're trolling, as i said Majority of small peer -review models predicts no more than 1 oC warming instead—and possibly much less which would much up with the discovery that the Climate is much less sensitive to Co2 than we thought, current models are governments and media is using is grossly manipulated and outdated.

Dyslexia my asshole

Dyslexia or not, spelling is in no way an indications of intelligence.

Again address my points, or you're trolling, as i said Majority of small peer -review models predicts no more than 1 oC warming instead—and possibly much less which would much up with the discovery that the Climate is much less sensitive to Co2 than we thought, current models are governments and media is using is grossly manipulated and outdated.

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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #19 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:04pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:52pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

____ wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 5:22am:

Pope Francis has flown to the Philippines, an island nation frequently hit by natural disasters, declaring that man is primarily responsible for climate change.

Wading into the climate change debate on board the papal plane, the Pope told journalists he hoped negotiators at the next round of climate change talks in Paris in November would take a courageous stand to protect the environment.

"I don't know if it is all (man's fault) but the majority is, for the most part, it is man who continuously slaps down nature," he said.

"We have in a sense taken over nature. I think we have exploited nature too much."

The comments were Pope Francis' clearest on the environment since he pledged to make the issue a priority on the day of his installation as Pope in 2013.

"We have, in a sense, lorded it over nature, over Sister Earth, over Mother Earth," said the leader of 1.2 billion Catholics, who has in the past spoken about the need to protect the environment.

"I think man has gone too far," he said.

"Thank God that today there are voices that are speaking about this."

Greeted in Manila by ecstatic crowds on Thursday evening, Pope Francis will on Saturday travel to Leyte, the island hardest hit by Super Typhoon Haiyan in 2013 and meet with survivors.

More here :

http://www.smh.com.au/world/man-has-gone-too-far-pope-francis-says-we-are-primar...

So some of the god botherers in parliament and on this board are out of step with yah pope.

Denialist of sky fairy faith, is the pope wrong, or are you wrong?

Someone needs to tell the chief Mick that the gravy train is all out of gravy Grin

But then again, the church is in on most of the rorts...may as well appease the 'gods' with some good old witch burning

The church is playing the friendly but indecisive role: it extends the time given to industry to change their tools and plant machinery and strategems for continuation in the new paradigm.

He has certaintly said change is afoot yet not really pushed any need for immediacy... change is scary so you can't expect too much from one bloke!

The church is just p1ssed that industrialisation has dragged more people out of poverty than chanting in churches ever has.

But it likes people to be dumb and to follow their religions without questioning....that's the bit they have in common with the spaz climate warriors Grin

Like a good Stunt Free Sheeple Grin

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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #20 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:06pm

____ wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 5:22am:

Pope Francis has flown to the Philippines, an island nation frequently hit by natural disasters, declaring that man is primarily responsible for climate change.

Wading into the climate change debate on board the papal plane, the Pope told journalists he hoped negotiators at the next round of climate change talks in Paris in November would take a courageous stand to protect the environment.

"I don't know if it is all (man's fault) but the majority is, for the most part, it is man who continuously slaps down nature," he said.

"We have in a sense taken over nature. I think we have exploited nature too much."

The comments were Pope Francis' clearest on the environment since he pledged to make the issue a priority on the day of his installation as Pope in 2013.

"We have, in a sense, lorded it over nature, over Sister Earth, over Mother Earth," said the leader of 1.2 billion Catholics, who has in the past spoken about the need to protect the environment.

"I think man has gone too far," he said.

"Thank God that today there are voices that are speaking about this."

Greeted in Manila by ecstatic crowds on Thursday evening, Pope Francis will on Saturday travel to Leyte, the island hardest hit by Super Typhoon Haiyan in 2013 and meet with survivors.

More here :

http://www.smh.com.au/world/man-has-gone-too-far-pope-francis-says-we-are-primar...

So some of the god botherers in parliament and on this board are out of step with yah pope.

Denialist of sky fairy faith, is the pope wrong, or are you wrong?

The Pope's opinion on AGW is like any one else's opinion......just a single person's opinion.

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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #22 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:15pm

Not sure what climate change is or global warming, just more propaganda by parties in some dark closet who need to scare, raise taxes, or are just plain stupid, and that's being polite to them.

WE have hot days and cold days, we have wet years and dry years, strange the climate (twits, or out of work half scientists) just manipulate data to manufacture their FACts. AS for anything being caused by homo sapiens, give me a good old volcano any time, fix the sky up big time. Note well, not everything the scientists say is factual. Once apon a time the world's leading scientists told us the world was FLAT. Then they told us that our planet (the third one from the sun) was at the centre of the universe, I could go on, but shall leave it at that. Note well, in Melbourne it is mid summer now, Sunday 18 January will have a temperature range of 14-20 degrees, to some this may be proof positive of climate change. Oh well.

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change Reply #23 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:16pm innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:13pm: Poor old Popes caught global warming fever, obviously the Vatican has got some sort of green energy investment rort in the pipeline. LOL no, the Pope is, primarily a politician...whatever his constituents believe is what HE believes.
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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #24 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:25pm

nasus wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

Not sure what climate change is or global warming, just more propaganda by parties in some dark closet who need to scare, raise taxes, or are just plain stupid, and that's being polite to them.

WE have hot days and cold days, we have wet years and dry years, strange the climate (twits, or out of work half scientists) just manipulate data to manufacture their FACts. AS for anything being caused by homo sapiens, give me a good old volcano any time, fix the sky up big time. Note well, not everything the scientists say is factual. Once apon a time the world's leading scientists told us the world was FLAT. Then they told us that our planet (the third one from the sun) was at the centre of the universe, I could go on, but shall leave it at that. Note well, in Melbourne it is mid summer now, Sunday 18 January will have a temperature range of 14-20 degrees, to some this may be proof positive of climate change. Oh well.

I believe in climate change, i mean look 200 years ago and we were in a mini ice ages, but i honestly don't think its man made, as i point out above, Co2 just doesn't effect the Climate as much as we thought..

I do think the modern Man-made climate change or global warming is more propaganda by parties in some dark closet who need the people to scare to achieve their goals.

I think Earth goes from mini ice ages (1500-1800) to periods of warming (1900-present) and the cycle repeats.

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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #25 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:27pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:13pm:

Poor old Popes caught global warming fever, obviously the Vatican has got some sort of green energy investment rort in the pipeline. Grin

Solar panels on the Vatican and the micks will have a third plate to pass around at mass to save the planet from a trace gas.....just another tax on the stupid Grin

Nothing the catholic church likes more than piling on the guilt.....

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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #27 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:33pm

Pantheon wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:25pm:

nasus wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

Not sure what climate change is or global warming, just more propaganda by parties in some dark closet who need to scare, raise taxes, or are just plain stupid, and that's being polite to them.

WE have hot days and cold days, we have wet years and dry years, strange the climate (twits, or out of work half scientists) just manipulate data to manufacture their FACts. AS for anything being caused by homo sapiens, give me a good old volcano any time, fix the sky up big time. Note well, not everything the scientists say is factual. Once apon a time the world's leading scientists told us the world was FLAT. Then they told us that our planet (the third one from the sun) was at the centre of the universe, I could go on, but shall leave it at that. Note well, in Melbourne it is mid summer now, Sunday 18 January will have a temperature range of 14-20 degrees, to some this may be proof positive of climate change. Oh well.

I believe in climate change, i mean look 200 years ago and we were in a mini ice ages, but i honestly don't think its man made, as i point out above, Co2 just doesn't effect the Climate as much as we thought..

I do think the modern Man-made climate change or global warming is more propaganda by parties in some dark closet who need the people to scare to achieve their goals.

I think Earth goes from mini ice ages (1500-1800) to periods of warming (1900-present) and the cycle repeats.

Grats Avo, that is the very definition of Natural Climate Change...or perhaps NGW??

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Re: Humans Are Primary Responsible For Climate Change
Reply #28 - Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:43pm

Pantheon wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:25pm:

nasus wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

Not sure what climate change is or global warming, just more propaganda by parties in some dark closet who need to scare, raise taxes, or are just plain stupid, and that's being polite to them.

WE have hot days and cold days, we have wet years and dry years, strange the climate (twits, or out of work half scientists) just manipulate data to manufacture their FACts. AS for anything being caused by homo sapiens, give me a good old volcano any time, fix the sky up big time. Note well, not everything the scientists say is factual. Once apon a time the world's leading scientists told us the world was FLAT. Then they told us that our planet (the third one from the sun) was at the centre of the universe, I could go on, but shall leave it at that. Note well, in Melbourne it is mid summer now, Sunday 18 January will have a temperature range of 14-20 degrees, to some this may be proof positive of climate change. Oh well.

I believe in climate change, i mean look 200 years ago and we were in a mini ice ages, but i honestly don't think its man made, as i point out above, Co2 just doesn't effect the Climate as much as we thought..

I do think the modern Man-made climate change or global warming is more propaganda by parties in some dark closet who need the people to scare to achieve their goals.

I think Earth goes from mini ice ages (1500-1800) to periods of warming (1900-present) and the cycle repeats.

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