Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 2:29pm:


Not Bad Herb,  youre using my analogies.
standing your ground against an angry mob is indeed folly.
And , yes, you have to outsmart a horse, you'll never out muscle one.

So a brumby mob that must be tamed.
How do we do this.
As you say, infiltrate, and let the mob exhaust itself.
A mob, when it gets tired will "look for answers"
If you release pressure at the right time, you can manipulate behaviour very easily provided 2 things.
1  you can read body language
2 your timing is impeccable.

So when the mob starts to slow you give them space. if they get more rowdy, you increase the pressure ever so slightly, drive them a bit more.

Most mobs of people or horses will eventually "just give up" as long as you play "pete persistence"
impatience is death to training and death to education.

There is something more though.
Once the brumby mob are subdued, the jackeroos will separate off the mare and foals (women and children).
The stallions , unfortunately , have to be destroyed.
I know of a farmer in the NT who secured a brumby mob and the stallion escaped.
some 3 months later, that stallion emerged from the bush and lifting him into the air like a rag doll and stamped him. he spent a long time in hospital.

Now, we obviously cant send the muslim men to the doggers but there is a problem about "how to change their behaviour in the long term"

One for you to ponder.

The other strategy used by farmers in the NT would also not be considered politically palateable , but it is a common one.

They will simply shoot the brumby males and then release a good quality passive "breeder stallion" with the mob.
something quiet like a whaler, or a stockhorse or clydesdale.

Again, i dont think you would find a way of doing this (lol) but these are the strategies used in the real world and strategies that have proved very successful in promoting a less dangerous and more productive environment

cods wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 8:20am:



re education is very hard work cods.
If not done properly and consistently, theres always the danger of a catastrophic failure...a life threatening buck, bolt or rear.
Its why it is SO MUCH SAFER to start with a foal (or child) and teach it good habits from birth.
I could gaurantee one of mine, trained properly and consistently from birth is bulletproof.
I could never give such a gaurantee for one that was a feral and had been retrained.
Its why the feral training just has to be stamped out.
If you want to cure islamic extremism, then you will have to stop the preachers of hate in the madrasses as once a bad lesson is learnt , it can never be fully unlearnt

Yes - that's just what we need - a central processing centre and a group of satellite re-education camps for those deemed not worthy of Australian society....

Next get the property and superannuation and dollar hoarders out there planting rice to learn the way of the poor so they will no longer pontificate on 'leaners' etc.....

You can see where Pol Pot was coming from - but his execution (poor choice of words) of the policy was pretty bad....

Heeeey! What's this persecution of monkeys here?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 8:38am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 11:15am:



worst possible way to deal with a tantrum.  All you have done is validate the use of a tantrum whereas a good solid smack or three will both end the tantrum and remind them not to do so in the future.  parenting 101.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 27^th, 2015 at 7:38am:






or maybe if he didnt buck when you didnt use a saddle ..maybe you would try something else... just maybe

Well said aqua!

These lessons are VITAL when training a woman to be a good wife.

When they start whinging for more shopping money (retail therapy extravagance) ~ say "No" once, and then don't repeat that no matter how long she goes on whinging, pouting and stamping her foot.